Re: g_b Faulty interpretation
Aditya, Being an atheist at heart, I do not wish nor care for the religios angle to this discussion. That said, I do belong to a community (friends / family) that is truly "god fearing" "religious" etc.. and definitely feel that everyone is entitled to their beliefs. So I find your remarks about impotency (infertility as some here infer it) of their "hero" (god, whatever) as equally offensive as I find disgusting, the BS that Mr. Messenger generates. Sure, one might see the advantage in the presence of "bad" just so one can appreciate all the good; a nutcase like Mr. M might albeit unintentionally, be of some use afterall. And Salil darling: Were you speaking about me there? If not, please skip the rest of this message.. "Different standards of behaviour"?? Do explain. All I did understand were the few words written in French. Flattez Aditya ?? Lets start with the obvious fact that my remark wasnt addressed to him in the earlier mail. Then, let me apologize if I had awakened the green monster in you one way or the other. Luv - TesSalil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Aditya dear,This polite gent expects different standards of behaviour from you and Mr. Messenger, and expects you to be suitably flattered, s'il vous plait !cheersSalilAditya Bondyopadhyay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Dear Tes, Au contraire, I think Messenger should be allowed to stay on. He has done a better job of ensuring for everybody the confirmation of the futility of GOD and his mindless middlemen in our real life. Given all the polite gents who inhabit this space, a message to that effect put forward with logic is considered offensive to the sentiments. This fellow however has done well in actually stating the obvious with his mindless bullshit, that GOD-speak is really all about. best, Aditya On 27/04/06, Tes Mar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I really hate to put it this way --- (And I know I will feel bad about it later) Messenger: Please shut up, stop the BS and get out of this group. (I had to rephrase this to sound PG) Moderator: Why do we still have this guy here ???- Tes Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricketYahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking "Reply") will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (attachments are removed in the digest mode. You get one or two digest mails per day containing all emails, minus pictures/attachments) No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rss feed: http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com/maillist.xml Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. To post mates/freinds wanted log on to http://pub35.bravenet.com/classified/show.php?usernum=2998156902 SPONSORED LINKS Love and romance Romance relationship Bombay india Gay YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "gay_bombay" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: g_b Egypt
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Re: g_b Warning for gays ..
Darn Aditya, Well put. I would have loved to start an argument about this just for the fun of it.. But cant, because I have to agree that it is mostly true. I am not sure though about the numbers relating to the male:female ratio. But your proposal definitely sounds like a straight mans dream come true :) Aditya Bondyopadhyay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Darling Messenger, I read the biography of Phrophet Muhhamad for the first time when I was in VIIIth Standard. It was a children's book published by IBH. Since then I have read many versions from many scholars, belonging to many denominations of the Islamic faith. I have also read a few written by non-islamic scholars, one by a feminist scholar, and at least one by a pretend-muslim bigot. I use the word pretend-muslim very consciously, for I am convinced that the prophet would have cringed in horror at what this person had to say in his name. Getting back to the biography, almost every time I read about him, I was impressed. I do not really care a great deal about whether his ideas were home grown or came to him through direct telepathy from God. The ideas are impressive by themselves. I marvelled at his political astuteness, the timings of his phrophesies and directions [almost always in time to enforce a needed change in law, or to fit a political or other requirement of the hour], his military strategies, his leadership abilities, his democratc emphasis on the jamaat, and his administrative acumen. But mostly I marvelled at his jurisprudence, which was much ahead of his time, much liberal, and needless to say much required. If pre-islamic Arabs were burying female infants alive, undoubtedly this liberal gentleman would have been horrified. But his keen understanding of empowerment meant that he did not just pass a direction against female infanticide. He through his laws, for the first time in history, gave true power to the female. He instituted Mehr [ i.e. Dower, while before dowry was the norm], he gave her a say in consenting to her marriage, he gave her one third of her father's property as inheritance, He gave her the right to seek Khula [or divorce from an uncaring husband], all unheard of before that time. He singlehandedly changed the status of women from being their men's chattel to being valued individuals in their own right, who could live life independently and with dignity. Which brings me to Muslims, the so called followers of this liberal gentleman. All you need to do is spend 24 hours in any average city in Saudi Arabia to see what these staunch wahabi keepers of the islamic flame have done to the nobel ideas of the Phrophet about women. Without much ado, let me just say, that by calling themselves muslims, they are actually shaming the phrophet. Their actions are repulsive to everything the Phrophet stood for, and worked his entire life for. Sorry to say this, but most entrenched muslim power blocks today do not deserve to have this great man as their phrophet. And if the Phrophet were around today, I think he would agree. The laws that the phrophet gave, were all good for their time, based on the understanding, science, and knowledge of their time, and needed in their time as a reforming influence. If there is one common undercurrent to these laws, it was punish the guilty - harshly if needed, but otherwise make laws that are good for the greatest numbers, that benefit the most, that are liberal, and that promote peace and harmony. The staunchest keepers of the Islamic faith today is totally blind to this ethos of the Phrophet, and that is the great shame of the muslim world. Reform, a key word in the phrophet's life and actions, was lost in the political power-mongering of his successors across the centuries, and the great islamic jurisprudence has therefore today crystallised into a time-warped pre-medeaval deadwood, unsuited to the times. Reform, the one legacy of the phrophet that should have been the guiding light of islamic jurisprudence has been made into its anathema. Muslims have successfully failed their Phrophet, ironically while invoking the Phrophet himself for everything. Congratulations..!! Which brings me to the question of homosexuality. In a world where numbers are important, and infant mortality high, the state or any other political power that be would invariably undertake to ensure larger degrees of procreation. An example is the consession that the phrophet made regarding polygamy, in an age when there were more war widows, and less men, it was important that these women be protected, and their reproductive rights promoted within an state recognised and sanctioned system. So he allowed each man to take upto four wives, and treat each of them equally in every way. Proscriptions against non-procreative homosexuality, howsoever that may be justified, in that system is understandable. But today the facts are different. Today there are more people than
Re: g_b I opine.
I know this is a rather very very late response to this post.. I did not have the patience to read it earlier. But I happened to be going through my earlier emails from this group and chanced upon this piece. Just one question Vijay : --- WHAT the heck were you ON when you wrote this???Vijay Raghevendran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Dear GB, (BomGAY) Some of my thoughts which i felt like sharing with you. Resources get accumulated; transformed. It is called development. Making a new model of a car or a mobile phone every month is not called development. It is vanity. Doing sophisticated research so that we can run cars with Bio ethanol/diesel. To cultivate plants and convert it to bio-diesel for driving cars. To insert any gene into any organism and to coerce it makes unnatural products. How long Nature will tolerate the cruelty inflicted on every facade of hers? Utter exploitation by the moneyed. Hoodwinking the public and make them believe in them. It is said that a Rat has to constantly gnaw something, else her tooth will forcefully grow out, piercing her jaw and killing her. Like wise, human beings, have to gnaw their minds. Thinking brings both evil and good. Those who don't think are categorised as insane. The elite thinkers rule the world. Running the world needs transformation of resources. The thinkers exploit the thinkless people for their labour so that the resources can be transformed. Shops are filled with products. Godowns are filled with grains to feed rats than human beings. It can only happen in India where a pariah dips his hand ungloved, into a ditch which contains the human shit, puking, urine, sputum, so that the sedentary stream of drainage can become agile only to pass over its dirty mirth to some other pariah. Human beings can not live in harmony with each other. Equilibrium is demise, unequilibrium is survival. Survival of the fittest. Ignorama and mediocres are considered derisive. Condescension. To propagate genes of the prodigies. Slaves: Dark skinned people. What is bad with sex? Is it not true that only during the sexual fantasy we live our real self as we momentarily freeze the thought process and concentrate on that spiritual act? Is there anything holier than two bodies entwined? Is it because of this that people aspire ardently to experience and live that moment of fantasy? Are we all then philanderers and nymphomaniacs (these words may mean nothing to an illiterate? They were invented by people like you and me; they also had defined an ideal living and those who were not conforming to the ideologies were coronated with derogatory words like the ones mentioned in the sentence before the parenthesis). What is the difference between nudity and nakedness? The difference is of profound interest to the current generation. We often forget to appreciate our own body and the associated charms of it and try to imitate (as the grass is always greener on the other side). We emulate role models. We cover our bodies with man-made costumes, cosmetics, foot wears, butt wears and what not, to mask our true self. So much so that we have actually forgotten our wondrous body seen from within (I am not saying that we should all become exhibitionists parading naked). In a traditional orthodox society people get to know their bodies while bathing, and while relieving themselves (unlike the western counterparts who have the advantage of deep bathing. Also I am not saying again that we all should become narcissist, standing in front of a mirror and relish with our obsessed self), which is why they go in quest of nudity, their bodies merely becoming objects of satisfaction. Kissing and caressing. The smooth lips gently touching theirs. Intertwined tongues drenched in saliva and the sputum. The tongue with its receptors enjoying the flavor at each and every corner of the mouth. The touch of the hand on each their shoulders, sends a ripple wave of sensuousness. Brief rubbing of shoulders and a casual look through the corner of the eyes. Cruising the mind to utopia. The hair with its glow and hold titillates the nerve impulses. Is that what the chemicals bring when go they become amorous? The broad chest, the erect nipples and their phalluses, like a 'T' rotated to its left (rotated 90 degrees anticlockwise). The organs of sexual pleasures also fulfill the function of delivering the excreta out of our body: The solid and the liquid waste. The rubbing of their equipments with their hand to massage their surfaces. The forward and reverse strokes. The pink flesh exposed in and out. The chemical act reaches its crescendo. With moans and groans and expletives equivalent to the thrust force. The insertion of an erect organ into the hole. Forward and reverse stroking. Like pumping air into a cycle. Like giving the asphyxiated cells, a whiff of fresh air. The freshness infused with the chemicals. The fragrance and the smell of the sweat. The ammoniacal sm
Re: g_b a glove called Camille
He IS an interesting character. Boy next door looks, great talent / grace. combined with an interesting audacity of the norm. The kid sure likes to speak out his thoughts - no matter what.Vikram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was going to apologise for another long compilation post today and for going into overdrive on Johnny Weir, the American figure skater. But actually, no apology, a queen in bloom is very hard to resist (and he's skating very well too). Read the stories below carefully - the joy is in the details. The glove called Camille. The almost purchased mink lined umbrella. 'What a Girl Wants, What a Girl Needs'. "Tinkerbelle". Nick Nolte's mug shot. But what makes this whole diva performance more than just entertainment is these two quotes from articles on him: 1) "When he was asked whether he
worried about setting a good example for children, he gave an answer that transcended spin doctoring: "I don't think there should be one role model for all kids. I want to be a role model for kids who feel different and stifled, kids that I was like, kids who feel like they can't say what they want.'' "2) "Let me address this head-on: This isn't about whether he's gay because we don't know that, and it's none of our business anyway."But he is so openly flamboyant, so effeminate in a flaunting sort of way, that he's a test of the homophobic, not-that-there's-anything-wrong-with-that crowd anyway."from outsports.com:Why Johnny Weir rocks: Cyd and I agree that American figure skater Johnny Weir is our favorite Olympic athlete. We love his outspokenness and the fact that he is comfortable with who he is. While there are no publicly out skaters in Torino, Weir isn't even trying to fool anyone
("His being obviously gay -- without actually coming out -- doesn't bother me," one Outsports poster wrote) and in his interview last night on NBC he took great delight in tweaking the establishment. As he walked out of the arena Tuesday night, he looked at the camera seductively, then shimmied his shoulders while throwing his head back. If Weir, 21, is not gay, then neither are we. Here is Weir unplugged on NBC: "I know that a lot of people, especially the more Republican-style people, are very afraid of what I mean to the sport and what I'm going to say, what kind of revolutionary, crazy things are going to come out of my mouth. Good for them, they should be scared. "I'm not a good, little figure skater that goes to bed at 8:30 every night and gets up at 6:30, eats my three meals and goes to bed again. [in the background, playing on his car radio, as he's driving in the piece, swear to God, is 'What a Girl Wants, What
a Girl Needs']. I'm a real person. I do real things. "I'm not going to be the shiny, sparkly, flower-holding figure skater that sits here and says I'm going to do my best today and if I don't, then I'll go home and train really hard next time. That's not me. I'm going to be really angry if I skate bad and I'll probably say crazy things. That's how I rock it. "I'm not for everybody. There are going to be people that like you and people that hate you. There's nothing I can do. I don't think I'm a diva or pompous enough to be in the position of acting like a diva, but I like things the way I like them to be. It's really my own game and my own agenda and to live my life as happy as I can be. "I'm not out there to be a puppet for anyone.
For now, my critics can eat it. I want people to remember me as someone that pushed the envelope, pushed the boundaries of the [he makes an air quotes move with his hands]
'United States figure skating establishment.'
I'm happy with who Johnny Weir is." All we can say is: You go, girl! (Jim Buzinski)Comrade in arms Skater Weir is American in fact, a Russian in heartGwen KnappTurin, Italy -- Johnny Weir's costume shimmers with sequins and envelops one arm in fishnet. His hands sweep and swirl through the air, and he finishes his short program with a red-gloved palm resting dramatically against his face. Weir skates for the United States, but he isn't hot dogs and apple pie. He is Bolshoi and caviar and, whenever he talks, a stiff shot of vodka. The 21-year-old has taught himself the Russian language, studied czarist history and publicly worn a red sweatsuit jacket from the old Soviet team uniform as a good-luck charm. Tatiana Totmianina, a pairs skater who won the Olympic gold medal Monday night, gave the jacket to Weir as a
birthday gift. He had become an honorary Russian, which in figure skating translates to: He could be a contender. Over the last four Winter Olympics, the men's figure-skating gold has gone to a Russian. Evgeni Plushenko, the leader after Tuesday's short program, should extend the streak to five Thursday night. Meanwhile, Americans have won only a silver and a bronze in all those years. Too often, the U.S. men skate as if trapped behind an electrical fence, certain that if they wear an outrageous costume or show
Re: g_b from Slate.com's advice column : does a homophobe have rights?
Lookup homophobia, my dear friend ho·mo·pho·bi·a( P ) Pronunciation Key n. Fear of or contempt for lesbians and gay men. Behavior based on such a feeling. The question: Does a homophobe have rights? What kindof question is that ? We could ask all kind of questions in that line of thought.. From a basic : Is it ok to hate somebody? Is it okay to harm / kill anybody for that reason? Is it ok to hate a section of people because of a certain trait? Is it okay to hate short people? Poor people ? Tall people ? Fat people? Black people? Ugly people (as per a certain definition)? Is it okay to be a racist? Is it okay to be part of the Ku Klux Klan? Is it okay to be a NAZI ? Is it okay to be a homophobe ??? Being opinionated is an option as long as it does not harm a fellow being.. And harm can mean verbal, physical, psychological and a whole lot of different variations. So to answer your question, in my opinion - No hater needs special rights. And should AND will be made accountable for any actions that they make because of that hate or dread. Signed - Well meaning Vikram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: An interesting question from Slate and a good, no nonsense response. Overt homophobia of this kind is still rare in India, I think, but I'm sure its bound to come up, especially from smart aleck guys who think they're being smart. So this exchange is worth keeping in mind for then: Dear Prudie, I'm an admitted homophobe. Often at my university issues such as gay rights are brought up in discussion and, needless to say, my point of view is not shared by many others. I do not volunteer my opinion, but when I am asked, I respectfully give it. I also do not try to "fix" anyone. However, several people have tried to "fix" me, saying I need to change my views and embrace a broader spectrum of beliefs. Others have simply resorted to ridiculing me for my beliefs. As much as I disagree with homosexuality, I do not ridicule anyone who engages in it, and I respect the fact that it is their belief. Is it too much to ask for the same thing in return? In this day and age, is it wrong to be a homophobe? If I am indeed entitled to my own opinion, how can I avoid being ridiculed for it? Conservatively Signed Dear Con, Of course you are entitled to your opinion, but being phobic about any category of people leaves you open to charges of being intolerant. Fair or not, your homophobia will make you unacceptable to quite a few people. The problem is that these days, your view of homosexuality is considered by many to be unkind, narrow, and somewhat backward. Enlightened thinking today is such that you probably can't avoid being ridiculed in certain circles, especially in a college setting. Take comfort, however, that you are not the only one with this attitude, so you will not wind up entirely friendless. You are wrong about one thing, however. You refer to people's homosexuality as "their belief." It ain't a belief, cupcake, it is who they are. Perhaps with time and maturity your views will change, or at least soften. Prudie, divergently Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info ===This message was posted to the gay_ Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking "Reply") will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: g_b Life and Death question..
It was all well put Jit - But it does end up scaring the shit out of Tuhin Roy. (No pun intended whatsoever) But the reply still does make sense and effective; I hope. - Tes Jit Majumder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: <> yeah. the price of stupidity. <> dont bother. try your best to be careful and **survive** in good health. <> infection not likely, fortunately. 4-5 secs not enough for secretion of fluids and mingling with your body fliuds. spilling spunk outside on the bums does not normally lead to the spunk entering the hole. if you have wiped it off immediately, you have good reason to rest in peace. never mind the pun. i gues one very easy way to know whether he was infected was to **ask** him. the idea ever occur to you? whether he would have told the truth is a different matter. did YOU ask? <> again, not likely, if for a very short while. the thing is aids is not easy to get, and that's why we can never blame it on the gods but on our own stupidity. <> oh, so you realise that you want to make a test?? and then you are waiting for fucking christmas?? confidential? who is stopping you? are you some 2-year-old who cant make his way around without holding daddy's middle finger? if the incident took place a few days ago, then are you waiting to make it a fucking few years, so that you can get all sickly and skinnny and convulsive and damage your liver and die with tubes poked all over into your wasted body, and then have us hold a gay film festival in your memory? you take a "few days" just to realise that you **should** take the test. and then instead of doing what should be done, you spend two more days to write this mail and wait for "authentic replies". we guess that you will take a few weeks to actually go and have the test. and after that you say you are scared. that's genius. <> GET THE DAMN TEST!! and that is the ONLY authentic reply!! because you have already wasted a "few days"! and you might just want to stay a fraction of a millimetre from getting wasted away, by remembering to use a damn rubber. that, you can buy -- and carry with yourself -- "confidentially". cheers - Jit Tuhin Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear All, I am in a big confusion and very disturbed. The thing which I am going to write may seem a bit vulgar, but after going through the mail, you can understand why I have written this. Please help me and post this messege. I am trying my best to make the language as sober as possible. Regards, Tuhin Hello Friends, I have three queries. Last Sunday i.e. on 5th of Februaury 06, I had physical with a guy. I don't know whether he was HIV positive or not. Now I am very much afraid. I am stating my queries one by one: 1) While going physical he penetrated me without condom. As soon as I realized that it wasn't safe, I pushed him out. He penetrated hardly for 4-5 seconds. Then he dropped the idea of penetrating and started playing with his organ on my anus, finally came on it, may be some semen have entered my place. But then I cleaned my place with tissue paper.I want to know if he was HIV positive, what are the chances that I got infected. 2) I know that HIV survives in blood, seminal and vaginal fluids. But in the saliva of a HIV positive person some amount of virus is found. While doing oral his saliva came in contact with my seminal fluid, again the same question as above. 3) In spite of all chances of myself getting infected, I want to make test. The incubation period of HIV is about 4-5 years and the incident took place hardly few days ago. So, when should I take the test? I want it to be absolutely confidential. I reside in Delhi. So, I want to know the right place and obviously cost for making the test in Delhi. I know that I have asked too many questions. But at least you can understand why. I am very disturbed, am not able to concentrate on anything. It is a question of my life and death. Please help me. I want AUTHENTIC REPLY, please take this query seriously. Please don't confuse and frighten me further with different contradicting answers, already I am scared to death, but please do help me. Regards, Tuhin [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking "Reply") will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40
Re: g_b Is "Brokeback Mountain" just a love story with universal appeal?
That review is totally true in many facets. To add a kinda funny comment : A straight friend of mine (who I think is a borderline homophobe; yet tolerant ) had lunch with a guy colleague of his. My friend had read the **rave** reviews of Bareback Mountain, but had not realized the gay theme. So over lunch and some movie discussion, he had told the other guy that he liked the reviews of BBM and said we could go see the movie together one of these days. The guy 2 probably thought my friend was gay and was coming on to him.. :) Ended up in a bit of surprise and embarrassment (for my friend) when the other guy, kinda scoffed at him and talked about the gay theme.. S S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This article is from the New York Review of Books. Be warned that it contains spoilers about the film. Volume 53, Number 3 · February 23, 2006 Review An Affair to Remember By Daniel Mendelsohn Brokeback Mountain a film directed by Ang Lee, based on the story by E. Annie Proulx Brokeback Mountainthe highly praised new movie as well as the short story by Annie Proulx on which the picture is faithfully basedis a tale about two homosexual men. Two gay men. To some people it will seem strange to say this; to some other people, it will seem strange to have to say it. Strange to say it, because the story is, as everyone now knows, about two young Wyoming ranch hands who fall in love as teenagers in 1963 and continue their tortured affair, furtively, over the next twenty years. And as everyone also knows, when most people hear the words "two homosexual men" or "gay," the image that comes to mind is not likely to be one of rugged young cowboys who shoot elk and ride broncos for fun. Two homosexual men: it is strange to have to say it just now because the distinct emphasis of so much that has been said about the moviein commercial advertising as well as in the adulatory reviewshas been that the story told in Brokeback Mountain is not, in fact, a gay story, but a sweeping romantic epic with "universal" appeal. The lengths to which reviewers from all over the country, representing publications of various ideological shadings, have gone in order to diminish the specifically gay element is striking, as a random sampling of the reviews collected on the film's official Web site makes clear. The Wall Street Journal's critic asserted that "love stories come and go, but this one stays with younot because both lovers are men, but because their story is so full of life and longing, and true romance." The Los Angeles Times declared the film to be a deeply felt, emotional love story that deals with the uncharted, mysterious ways of the human heart just as so many mainstream films have before it. The two lovers here just happen to be men. Indeed, a month after the movie's release most of the reviews were resisting, indignantly, the popular tendency to refer to it as "the gay cowboy movie." "It is much more than that glib description implies," the critic of the Minneapolis Star Tribune sniffed. "This is a human story." This particular rhetorical emphasis figures prominently in the advertising for the film, which in quoting such passages reflects the producer's understandable desire that Brokeback Mountain not be seen as something for a "niche" market but as a story with broad appeal, whatever the particulars of its time, place, and personalities. (The words "gay" and "homosexual" are never used of the film's two main characters in the forty-nine-page press kit distributed by the filmmakers to critics.) "One movie is connecting with the heart of America," one of the current print ad campaigns declares; the ad shows the star Heath Ledger, without his costar, grinning in a cowboy hat. A television ad that ran immediately after the Golden Globe awards a few weeks ago showed clips of the male leads embracing their wives, but not each other. The reluctance to be explicit about the film's themes and content was evident at the Golden Globes, where the film took the major awardsfor best movie drama, best director, and best screenplay. When a short montage of clips from the film was screened, it was described as "a story of monumental conflict"; later, the actor reading the names of nominees for best actor in a movie drama described Heath Ledger's character as "a cowboy caught up in a complicated love." After Ang Lee received the award he was quoted as saying, "This is a universal story. I just wanted to make a love story." Because I am as admiring as almost everyone else of the film's many excellences, it seems to me necessary to counter this special emphasis in the way the film is being promoted and received. For to see Brokeback Mountain as a love story, or even as a film about universal human emotions, is to misconstrue it very seriouslyand in so doing inevitably to diminish its real achievement. Both narratively and visually, Brokeback Mountain is a tragedy about the specifically gay pheno
Re: g_b Re: events at the last GB party & how to avoid it!!!
That indeed is sad & shocking. The mob mentality and morbid curiosity never ceases to cause trouble. Hope Kim is doing fine now. vijay_30g <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was shocked to read about the events at the New Years Party. Any news of Kim? Is he still in hospital? If anyone of you has any details please send it so that we can visit him and give him comfort. I would suggest certain things to avoid such situations. This group should have different posts for different people from various fields who are willing to take up responsibility. For example 1) We should have an active member who is a lawyer and willing to work for us when required. 2) An active member who is a doctor and can help in these kind of situations... and many other situations. Many such posts... may be an estate broker to help us buy a house, an insurance agent, a business men dealing in all sorts of items, anything which one can think of.. who can be of help in day to day life. These posts should be purley on volantory basis. I would like to ask the moderator of this group ... who is doing an excellent job handling the group... should also have the other posts. They would be responsible for all the things for the group. So such situations ... hope never gets repeated... have a better endings. I hope I have been able to represent my thoughts clearly. Vijay Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking "Reply") will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: g_b hanuman pic
Its not the moderator that has a problem. I say - keep racist / relegious zealots like YOU away from this list. IT IS YOU THAT HAS A PROBLEM !! THE LIST CAN DO WITHOUT PEOPLE LIKE YOU. Lov dude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I feel pity on ur mental level , We and other ppl joined for specific reason , Those who feel want to put religion every where should not be allowed .We are not here to do that ..Shri Hanuman or Any other diety doesn't matter ...later on ppl start abusing on message boards . Dont just arge for sake of argument , if you are so religiour ,follow religion sending pics is foolishness . Manoj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear luvDude i can identify with ur views of maybe this is not the forum to send pics of gods (or goddess) -- there several others for that .This grp has some specific agenda. But why in names of luving heavens should it be a disgrace to the feelings of any hindus or any religion ? Just by posting it on a gay related site ? do u think whatever comes in contact with us gets defiled ? Or if u think that becoz hanuman was a akhand brahmachari v should not think or worship him ?then what about the hordes of married men and women who throng the temples to worship him ? Come out man of this -- accepted ur views on religion should not enter this grp ,but saying posting anything on religion or gods here means disgracing them is tantamount to insult against us all . Lov dude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I strongly recommend moderator to keep religion out of this group . this is not place to send Shri Hanuman picture .Its simply disgrace to feelings of Hindus . === hun? someone posted a nice pic of lord hanuman, so allowed it what's wrong? i thought it was a goood pic regards moderator Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/ftt1lB/TM ~-> Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking "Reply") will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: g_b Fwd: u bastard Sahil
Hi Sahil.. I, for one rarely every read your romantic poetry / shairis. Reason partly being lack of time or the fact that I dont always understand completely. But either ways, I did have a choice. Dont let the email from that silly/rude guy stop you from expressing yourself in whatever way you wish.. ~Sahil~ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Heres some more SPICE for some of my friends. (the below mail) I am forwarding this mail to the Group to show how people can be at times!! Im just stunned. No more comments on all whats on, but I will keep writing for those who wana read it or coz I like to share what I have with me. Note: whoever has sent me this mail, please think be4 u react.(its a request). Sahil. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Clean water saves lives. Help make water safe for our children. http://us.click.yahoo.com/YNG3nB/VREMAA/E2hLAA/WfTolB/TM ~-> Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking "Reply") will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gay_bombay/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: g_b try this out ......funnnyyy
Yeah its funny, and yes it is a glitch.. but it is easy to explain - Every language has its sounds that you cannot express exactly in another language. In this case Mom got translated to a simple Mama while depending on the sound / pronounciation and usage, it could intend different things, including a breast. All the words Mom, Mama, Mummy, Mammal, Mammary glands (externally - breast) derive from the same roots. Mother - being the most definitive word for a female parent. Try Aish's mother is nice, you will have no problems. That said, Iam sure the problem is something to do with the character set they are using.. b m <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Check out this google's mistake... its funny.see what u get in the endThe concerned engineers should be screwed for this Try this... 1. Open google2. click 'language tools' link.http://www.google.com.au/language_tools?hl=en3. Write "Aishwarya's mom is very nice" in 'Translate text:' textbox.4. Select "English to Spanish" in the below combo.5. Press Translate and wait for translation.6. Now copy the translated text from the above text andpaste it in the 'Translate text:' textbox. 7. Select "Spanish to English" in the below combo.8. Press Translate and wait for translation.9. Enjoy. Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Group Site:http://www.gaybombay.info==This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking "Reply") will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address.Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.comSubscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED]Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED]No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED]Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED]Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED]Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.htmlClassifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.infosite. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personaladvertisement. Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking "Reply") will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "gay_bombay" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: g_b why are we gay?prasanth
I was planning on replying to this thread.. but was away. But I do believe suhail khan has summed it up much better than I could have. Thanks Suhail. suhail khan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: hi prasanth ok you mean to say that its upbringing that decides whether you will be gay or straight. now i want to ask, is this the upbringing, that has lead to creation of every single homosexual in this world. atleast i dont think so. And please do your homework before writing. it has been proven that it has almost nothing to do with parenting, upbringing and circumstances, visit some genuine web sites and search if it was upbringing that lead to creation of every single homosexual in this world,infact it has been proven by pschologists that irrespective of the upbringing you give to your child, if he is destined to be a gay he will be a gay, and this statement i have written is medically proven.if you want you can visit oprah winfrey's site, and can get information on effect of upbringing on a child's sexual orientation. i mean its surprising to even think that upbringing lead to creation of every single homosexual in this world.so according to prasanth parents of all homosexuals were over protective and shielded them from the big bad world, surprising!!! and yes friends also read this line by prasanth: "Your carving to become the macho man could further your desire to have a man." i really didnt know till date that if i desire to be macho i will become straight.he further writes "If a person really desires to change his orientation, he is more likely to succeed if he really wants to" again great, so according to him its all fault of homosexuals ,that till date they have not made up their minds that they will behave straight, according to him we are all so happy and feel blessed and highly gifted being gay, that we just dont want to become straight,irrespective of what society thinks of us. according to him we get some pleasure hiding our sexuality from the world and feel pleasure when our class-mates make fun of homosexuals or the society laughs at homosexuals, and so we dont want to change. read this line of his message: "It is purely because I choose to be one due to factors affecting my upbringing, circumstances and emotions." sorry but neither were my parents over protective, nor one day i sat and thought for hours and finally decided that i will be attracted to boys. it may be the case with some, but definitely not with me. byeprasanth kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi I don't think being gay is because GOD wanted us to be like this or because we are born gay. It is more to do with parenting, upbringing and circumstances. Psychological factors also affect a person to become a gay or straight. If your parents are over protective and shield you from the big bad world , there is every chance that you develop female tendencies of being soft and timid. Your carving to become the macho man could further your desire to have a man.I think it is all in the mind. If a person really desires to change his orientation, he is more likely to succeed if he really wants to. It is all about being confortable with one's sexuality. If I choose to like men than women, it is my choice and I making this choice not because I was born that way or GOD made me. It is purely because I choose to be one due to factors affecting my upbringing, circumstances and emotions. Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. Group Site: http://www.gaybombay.info == This message was posted to the gay_bombay Yahoo! Group. Responses to messages (by clicking "Reply") will also be posted on the eGroup and sent to all members. If you'd like to respond privately to the author of any message then please compose and send a new email message to the author's email address. Post:- gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digest Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Individual Mail Mode:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Us:- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives are at http://www.mail-archive.com/gay_bombay%40yahoogroups.com/maillist.html Classifieds for personal advertisements are back on www.gaybombay.info site. Please exercise restraint in the language of your personal advertisement. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "gay_bombay" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
