Re: g_b Let the whole world ......../

2006-03-09 Thread kash ora



hi,  we know that cherector of malism and femalism are there in every human being at different percentage ratios.  Everyonel act at times and mostly on which ism predominant in our mind.  Hence instead of argueing on whether he can have sex or whether he can live like that,  letall think on how bestone can make use of whathe/she has for a good understanding life with other, whoever it be. and such life has a meaning.  Thinking on everything brings light slowly/lol  kash  abbey fifty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Not a very unexpected reply. My message was for aparticular case where marraige was a given fact andthe question was whether, and how, it can be saved. Afair chance to save the marriage has to be given,under the
 circumstances. It was not meant for thosenot married; they should not!A--- Sonub Jalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Arent you contradicting yourself? "Sex is in the mind" and "still at heart we are gay"...who are you fooling? If you have indeed attained intimacy with your wife (proving that it is possible) then why the need to be here?I dont know under what circumstances you have had to marry and I will not like to sit in judgement of your actions. But this is definitely not the advise you can give to people who are under pressure to get married to a woman. What such people (people like me) need to know is that you will then be using a woman's life to experiment. You are living in denial about what you and she needs and someday you will not be able to live the pretence any longer.For those of you who are married...you can spend the rest of your life "adjusting" and "rubbing your wife's cheeks" or acknowledge the clossal mistake you have made and
 go your separate ways. Acknowledge that you are "not a perfect husband like heteros" and a hetro is what any straight woman deserves, while you are respnsible for denying her that.And then maybe some of you married guys have been lucky in that your wife has waited long enough for you to "get physical as if it means nothing to you as would between two friends". I know of women who kicked the living daylights out of their husbands for not being good enough. Lots of rounds to hospitals to cure their impotency. So dont you dare make your plight a general rule.Get real guys. While the honourable GB list jury is still out on whether true love is possible in the gay world, I believe it is better to be alone than to live a lie.I have fought really hard not to marry, being the only son in a very conservative family. It has affected my parents health and been the cause of a lot of tension in my family. But I would rather live with this than a wife with whom I need to
 develop intimacy and "Achieving sex with one women" against my instincts.abbey fifty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guys, I'd like to make two points:1. I share Sumeet Mehra's experiences and having done the deed, ( marrying )the best option is to try hard to adjust. And the best policy is NOT to try getting hard - just befriend your wife, get intimate in all other ways, and then very slowly, get physical as if it means nothing to you as would between two friends-like putting hand over shoulder, a kiss on the cheek and just holding hands. The important thing is to get so used to these things that you are not conscious. After a few months, you will be mentally relaxed enough for stirrings of physical feelings to emerge. Remember sex is in the mind. So relax and let time go. I went through this phase and though not a perfect husband like heteros, we do get along.2. We are on the list because, still, at heart we are gay in that we are attracted
 physically by men. Achieving sex with one women means nothing much except that u get to know her so well, that one learns to get along, if you know what I mean. It happens. But the feelings stop with that one women. Emotionally, we are very much on g-side. I am sure other married men will understand this. But I know others will not, and I have no wish to cross swords with them.My purpose of writing this is to give emotional support to "arsg" , Summet and others like them ( and me)because I am sure there will be acidic comments to the contrary. Warm regards, A--- Sonub Jalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:If you have accomplished what you have advised, what are you doing on this list?Sumeet Mehra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi asrg!I am giving you just my point of view.I do understand in what difficult situation you are.Maybe you might have never thought that you would land up in such a situation. See its difficult
 but not impossible. You can lead a very good sex life with your wife. I am sure you have some thoughts that is not letting you have feelings for your wife. But as you have told you can not disclose your sex identity to you family and please never do that. You may land up in very complicated state of life.See nothing in this world is impossible. You need to remove all passimist feelings from your mind. You can surely have sex with your wife. Treat her as your soul 

Re: g_b A normal person,Living Standards in UAE

2006-01-10 Thread kash ora



dear nice friend,  i learnt through my friend, what u said for 2bed room flats costs are all for one bed room flats respectively.life style of sharing flats, bed rooms and kitchen are very common and those come here to use to do that as in mumbai.in three bed room flat a filipino couple with a servant maid live in one room, a sri lankan couple live in another room , a girl from each bangladesh, srilanka and indonesia , [3] total live in the hall and my friend, indian,live as a single man in another room , which is owned by a pakistani , living in servant's room in the same 3bed room flat having one kitchen and 2 and half bath/, as i learnt from my friend.  he said every one feels rooms are as if neighbouring flats in a building/lol  may Allah, Jesus, Shiva bless all human beings live with harmony/lol  REAGRDS TO NICE FRIEND/   
   "Nice Friend " [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Living Standards in UAE___Brothers. Through this mail I do not want todiscourage anybody coming to UAE, but at the same timewould like to place some facts about life in UAE @present. Probably, on this list many be knowing but Ihave not seen anything as yet.The cost of living and house rental expenses is skyrocketing day-after-day, FYI break-down of rents plusother necessities one must consider before negotiatingsalary with employers in different emirates of UAE(the below is based to the best of my knowledge withinputs from my friends in Dubai and
 sharjah):Accomadation:2-BedRoom:Abu Dhabi --not less than 32K Dhs per year (excludingreal estate agents commission etc)Dubai --not less than 60K Dhs per year (provided onegets a flat)Sharjah --not less than 30K Dhs per year1-BedRoom:Abu Dhabi --not less than 22K Dhs per yearDubai --not less than 22K Dhs per yearSharjah --not less than 22K Dhs per yearStudio Flats:Abu Dhabi --N/ADubai --not less than 25K Dhs per yearSharjah --No idea (since people often prefer to stayin sharing accomodation rather than go in forindependent)The aforementioned figures are in general and are inUAE currency, it may further depend upon if buildingis Window A/C or Centralized so on and so forth.Mostly people stay in Sharjah and work in Dubai.Travel  Transportation:Abu Dhabi: AfforadableDubai: Very ExpensiveSharjah:AffordableThe aforementioned means of transportation is
 Taxi,however Dubai has a very good Bus Transportation inplace. Getting a driving license(Car) is okay inDubai(a bit expensive though) and Sharjah while in AbuDhabi its expensive and difficult too. However generalmood is suggesting that rules have been eased a bit inAbu Dhabi.Taxes:Though not in place at present but recentannouncements from Govt, indicate that they are aboutto start and planning is currently in progressWater  Electricity:Abu Dhabi:Afforadable (however changes are expected infee structure)Dubai:Very ExpensiveSharjah:AffordableI hope this information would be useful for allaspirants, just a passing comment not everything thatshines is GOLD and LOOKS ARE DECEPTIVE.Allah knows the best and provisions is given by HIMALONE.Your Brother A faithful friend is worth more than all the gold in the world. [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Yahoo! ShoppingFind Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping   
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Re: g_b Love do not need a reason..... If u agry with me please reply...

2006-01-05 Thread kash ora



  Dear ayesha/haseena  Greetings.  Really all ur mails make me very happy and saving most of them to view while alone bored/lol  At the same time am anxious to pass on to my friends and familes, as its natural to feel what we enjoy let others too./lol  Only thorn is, as i get the mails through g-b mails and i can not forward it to families for the reason u could guess.  May i request u to send these to my mail seperately and i wish to be ur friend.  To know about me,since my college days,i have a soft corner for gays as they are not properly treated in society and being born with that tendency, for that they are not responsible.  cheers and thanks/ kashora."Nice Friend " [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  ayesha   Love dont need a reason if you are agry wih me please reply me.   Lady : Why do you like me.. Why do you love me? Man : I can't tell the reason.. but I really lovey  Lady : You can't even tell me the reason... how canyou say you love me? How can you say you like me?Man : I really don't know the reason, but I canprove that I love you.  Lady : Proof No!  I want you to tell me the reason.My friend's boyfriend can tell her why he loves herbut not you!Man : Ok..ok!!! Erm... because you
 are beautiful, because your voice is sweet,because you are caring,because you are loving,because you are thoughtful,because of your smile,because of your every movements. The lady felt very satisfied with the man's answer.   Unfortunately, a few days later, the Lady met with an accident and went in comma. The Guy
 then placed a letter by her side, andhere is the content:Darling,Because of your sweet voice that I love you... Now can you talk No! Therefore I cannot love you.Because of your care and concern that I like you..Now that you cannot show them, therefore I cannot loveyou.Because of your smile,because of your every movements that I love you.. Now can you smile Now can you moveNo, therefore I cannot love you...If love needs a reason, like now, there is noreason for me to love you anymore. Does love need a reason?? NO! Therefore, I still love you...  A faithful friend is worth more than all the gold in the world. Yahoo! ShoppingFind Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping   
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g_b cross dressers beauty clinic/saloon

2005-12-19 Thread kash ora



hi,   A few weeks back,there was an information on a place run by crossdressers to host all those who want to dress up as they wish and live/stay a few hrs to satisfy their dreams, in mumbai.  the contact persons names and phone numbers were there.  could anyone, whohas that mail, forward it to me?  regards with thanks  kashora.  __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 





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Re: g_b train-ing!

2005-10-10 Thread kash ora



brutal way of refusal/ denying could not be polite?fk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




kash:

when i was about seventeen the same thing ahppened to me. It was the one of the  most scary, unnervibg and frighteneing and humilaiting experiences. This is nothing but sexual abuse. i'll tell you what i did, I ground my cowboy boots hard onto the bastard's foot and made him yell, and told him loudly that i'd do the same to his balls if he didn't get lost, and the fellow melted away, crowded train or no.

anybody groping you against your wishesis molesting you and deserves the same treatrment meted out to what are known as 'eve-teasers'.

kris


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Subject: Re: g_b train-ing!

hi,
if anyone gropes /in a crowded train, tell him to handle softly and let him have the pleasure after all he is longing for that and for u no way to move out.//either u enjoy or let him enjoy.// when station comes u move out anyway/ if u wish , when u move out tell him, sorry and not to follow u.//its a way of caring the unknown.
bye
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hey all,recently after work i caught a train, the lights were switched off n then the train started moving. the train was packed to the fullest and i couldnt move a bit. then suddenly this man positions himself facing me and starts groping my crotch. this made me a lil uncomfortable. i tried moving, but to no avail. he still was feeling my thing and then i did what i had to, i took his hand and gave it back to him!!!hehe but he didnt stop, turn my back to him...and he started humping. after a while he got it that i was uninterested and got off. it was real embarassing and shameful. didnt really like that feeling.all that was goin on in my mind were the horror stories shared on this forum by ppl. i think i did what i shdve done. what do ull think lapin  


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Re: g_b train-ing!

2005-10-09 Thread kash ora



hi,
if anyone gropes /in a crowded train, tell him to handle softly and let him have the pleasure after all he is longing for that and for u no way to move out.//either u enjoy or let him enjoy.// when station comes u move out anyway/ if u wish , when u move out tell him, sorry and not to follow u.//its a way of caring the unknown.
bye
Lapin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hey all,recently after work i caught a train, the lights were switched off n then the train started moving. the train was packed to the fullest and i couldnt move a bit. then suddenly this man positions himself facing me and starts groping my crotch. this made me a lil uncomfortable. i tried moving, but to no avail. he still was feeling my thing and then i did what i had to, i took his hand and gave it back to him!!!hehe but he didnt stop, turn my back to him...and he started humping. after a while he got it that i was uninterested and got off. it was real embarassing and shameful. didnt really like that feeling.all that was goin on in my mind were the horror stories shared on this forum by ppl. i think i did what i shdve done. what do ull think lapin  
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g_b dubai crusing spots

2005-10-06 Thread kash ora
hi
burdubai creek side near makthoom bridge and  near shindaga tunnel side benches 
could be used to meet , by sitting there alone, looking into eyes of persons, 
identity could be made and .after making friendship anywhere could be /

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Re: g_b Advice sought by a Male to Female transgender in closet

2005-08-19 Thread kash ora



hi,
not based on any scientific or practical results, but my thinking go on telling u to try to make /feel ur wife to slowly become a bi at first and then make love with her, as uwish to be lesbian /
its a way to enjoy life, after all sex is a few mins play and joy, so lack of sex need not affect love in mind.//wisdom on life, everyone gets by constant thinking and feeling it.
wish u good luck.shala tasleem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i am a 45 years plus Male to female transgender livingin extreme CLOSET/secrecy in small town of India. May some one advice be on following points.(1) i am married. my wife expects me to have sex withher. inspite of my best efforts she could notunderstand my problem may be on account of her beingilleterate, from village and orthodox background. Somepeople told me and i have also read in some magazineslike femina,cosmopolitan,savvy etc that in Bombay manygay people are married and they are living DUAL lives.legally they live with women wives and emotionallythey enjoy male company in CLOSET complete secracy. MY POINT IS thathow they manage to penetrate theirwives just by impersonation. for me such things arebeyons my comprehension. (2) i am a Minority within a minority. gays are inminority.
 transgender are minority within a minority.then i am attracted towards women as psychiatristIDENTIFIED ME AS A LESBIAN TRANSGENDER MALE TO FEMALE.i have read in a book published by penguins india --- "lesbian writings in india" that such type oftransgenders exist but they are extremely rare. peoplemisunderstand me a lot. Lesbians think that i am aStraight man cheating and playing pranks with them.Gay men think that i am Mad. I sympathise with them.when people like me dress up in saris make-up incomplete woman attarire it is normal that some gay manmight find me attractive, but to explain the matter indetail in quite difficult especially when peoplepercieve you as a "straight man"{.  __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 





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Re: g_b Syphilis epidemic hits Sydney's gay community

2005-08-15 Thread kash ora
dear ketan,
could u please explain what is syphilis? how one gets it/ what are 
precautionary measures to be taken to avoid getting affected by syphilis,
regards,
kishore

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Syphilis epidemic hits Sydney's gay community

A medical study has revealed that syphilis has become an epidemic 
among gay men in Sydney's inner city.

Syphilis is a sexually transmitted disease (STD) caused by the bacterium 
Treponema pallidum. It has often been called “the great imitator” because so 
many of the signs and symptoms are indistinguishable from those of other 
diseases. 



Syphilis is passed from person to person through direct contact with a syphilis 
sore. Sores occur mainly on the external genitals, vagina, anus, or in the 
rectum. Sores also can occur on the lips and in the mouth. Transmission of the 
organism occurs during vaginal, anal, or oral sex. Pregnant women with the 
disease can pass it to the babies they are carrying. Syphilis cannot be spread 
through contact with toilet seats, doorknobs, swimming pools, hot tubs, 
bathtubs, shared clothing, or eating utensils.


Many people infected with syphilis do not have any symptoms for years, yet 
remain at risk for late complications if they are not treated. Although 
transmission appears to occur from persons with sores who are in the primary or 
secondary stage, many of these sores are unrecognized. Thus, most transmission 
is from persons who are unaware of their infection.

Primary Stage
The primary stage of syphilis is usually marked by the appearance of a single 
sore (called a chancre), but there may be multiple sores. The time between 
infection with syphilis and the start of the first symptom can range from 10 to 
90 days (average 21 days). The chancre is usually firm, round, small, and 
painless. It appears at the spot where syphilis entered the body. The chancre 
lasts 3 to 6 weeks, and it heals without treatment. However, if adequate 
treatment is not administered, the infection progresses to the secondary stage.

Secondary Stage
Skin rash and mucous membrane lesions characterize the secondary stage. This 
stage typically starts with the development of a rash on one or more areas of 
the body. The rash usually does not cause itching. Rashes associated with 
secondary syphilis can appear as the chancre is healing or several weeks after 
the chancre has healed. 

The characteristic rash of secondary syphilis may appear as rough, red, or 
reddish brown spots both on the palms of the hands and the bottoms of the feet. 
However, rashes with a different appearance may occur on other parts of the 
body, sometimes resembling rashes caused by other diseases. Sometimes rashes 
associated with secondary syphilis are so faint that they are not noticed. 

In addition to rashes, symptoms of secondary syphilis may include fever, 
swollen lymph glands, sore throat, patchy hair loss, headaches, weight loss, 
muscle aches, and fatigue. The signs and symptoms of secondary syphilis will 
resolve with or without treatment, but without treatment, the infection will 
progress to the latent and late stages of disease.

Late Stage
The latent (hidden) stage of syphilis begins when secondary symptoms disappear. 
Without treatment, the infected person will continue to have syphilis even 
though there are no signs or symptoms; infection remains in the body. In the 
late stages of syphilis, it may subsequently damage the internal organs, 
including the brain, nerves, eyes, heart, blood vessels, liver, bones, and 
joints. This internal damage may show up many years later. Signs and symptoms 
of the late stage of syphilis include difficulty coordinating muscle movements, 
paralysis, numbness, gradual blindness, and dementia. This damage may be 
serious enough to cause death.



The syphilis bacterium can infect the baby of a woman during her pregnancy. 
Depending on how long a pregnant woman has been infected, she may have a high 
risk of having a stillbirth (a baby born dead) or of giving birth to a baby who 
dies shortly after birth. An infected baby may be born without signs or 
symptoms of disease. However, if not treated immediately, the baby may develop 
serious problems within a few weeks. Untreated babies may become 
developmentally delayed, have seizures, or die.



Some health care providers can diagnose syphilis by examining material from a 
chancre (infectious sore) using a special microscope called a dark-field 
microscope. If syphilis bacteria are present in the sore, they will show up 
when observed through the microscope. 

A blood test is another way to determine whether someone has syphilis. Shortly 
after infection occurs, the body produces syphilis antibodies that can be 
detected by an accurate, safe, and inexpensive blood test. A low level of 
antibodies will stay in the blood for months or years even after the disease 
has been successfully treated. Because untreated 

Re: g_b Paisa Yeh Paisa

2005-08-03 Thread kash ora
in chat room meaning is LAUGH OUT LOUDER
for buisiness men  meaning is LOSS OVER LOSS
in bed room meaning is LEG OVER LEG  / LEG ON LAP/LOL
for straight  meaning is LOVE ONLY LADIES
 for lesbians meaning is  LOVE ONLY LADIES,
SO LOGICALLY STRAIGHTS ARE LESBIANS/LOL

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LOL = Laugh out loud

ROFL = Roll on the floor laughing

Two shorthand symbols for mirth

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