KarnaWait for another decadeI am sure things will change out there...I wish they do...Here in US , i can see lots of indian guys staying togther as married couples , since years now...CheerosKarna Mehta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Salil / Sumeet,Both of you are missing a vital point.The value system of a person that he has acquired in life from his parents, thesociety he has lived in and the environment. This value system is DIFFERENT fordifferent person. It is this value system that makes people act differently to agiven situation and be comfortable with their acts.Gays and marraige is the situation.Some marry and see nothing wrong with it and adjust with their wife
and self.Others think that it is completely wrong.Who is to decide what is correct?To each his own. No point in pushing one's convictions down another's throat.Results in unnecessary fruitless arguments because each is going to be guidedhis value system.Think it over.Society will evolve and the issue will be resolved. Till then we can keeparguing.Get your own "800" numberVoicemail, fax, email, and a lot morehttp://www.ureach.com/reg/tag On Tue, 28 Mar 2006, Salil ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Yes, Sumeet, I respect the tradition of marriage. It provides an anchor tolife, makes the man familial, creates stability in society, and creates a mutual support system inold age. So now that we agree on all this, will you join me in wanting that gay
marriage be allowedin india so that I can marry my partner soon enough ? He and I have waited for some years now, and itlooks like this "society" which respects the tradition of marriage, doesn't want me toparticipate in that tradition just because I love a man and not a woman. Will you wish me an early marriageor none at all ? I am sure I and my partner will have a marriage that covers all the good points youmentioned about marriage. By the way, what happens if you tell your wife that you have been having sexwith other men, and assuming she is financially independent, she separates from you, meets anotherman and gets remarried in the next 3 months ? You are the one who will hear nasty and hurtfulcomments from "society", not she. So whom are you really protecting by keeping your mouth shut - yourselfor your wife ?
You have said that in earlier days gay men were happy getting married, sowhat has changed now - how do you know that they were happy - who told you ? I say they were nothappy but miserable - how do you know either way ? Regards Salil Sumeet Mehra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marriage is a world-wide accepted tradition. People from differentcommunity may not agree on any other matters, but everyone agrees on the tradition to marry. This acceptanceis not of few years ago but of many centuries ago. Since then there were people liking sex with samegender. But they all use to marry. Yes they were not treated indifferent, adhura or as gud/gay. Then suddenly what has made a change? They lived their part of life
verywell in those days. Then why not now? What is striking your heavens? They were never told that theycould not marry a female and have their own family. The true and real reason of marriage is infact getting lost. Guysdon#8217;t know the meaning of marriage. Marriage is an anchor, it does not let you stray. By changing themeaning of marriage, you guys will ruin the face of the world. Marriage makes a man responsible because he is family oriented. But guys whodon not want to marry, how would they understand the importance of marriage? Some guys even say that one should not hide their likes for guys to hiswife. But do they know that some things are good till they are in closet. All types of Truth is not for everyone. Some matter become more bitter iftold and could ruin
the life. By no means one can call this cheating because it#8217;s not to harmsanyone#8217;s happiness. I care for their happiness so I hide it. If at all I disclose it and if she accepts it,then the anchor will be gone. Its human tendency, we become shameless when accepted. So guys grow up. How can one think only for his own benefits? How can oneoverlook the harm that can be caused to the society/world that we live in? Someone here told once that we get one life to live. So we need to live forour happiness. Then where do we differentiate ourselves from animals? Even animals live for themselves. They open their mouth and the food isgulped down in their stomach. But humans have hands, they collect it and share it with theirfamily. Family, often heard word, but mostly ignored by certain guys in this list. Now
even you guys willbe in need to change the meaning of family. I read a mail of one guy, don know his name. He stated that the day his bfallows him to go for adoption he will adopt a child. I think he is still in his fantasies. He doesnot know the legal proceedings of adoption. Alice Please come out of your wonderland! He