g_b report + query from GB special cancer meet
The GB Special Meet on Cancer Awareness combined with HepB inoculations went off very well. I'll try and post a longer email with the specific details that Dr.Prasad spoke about, but this is just to give some idea of what it was like and raise one of the points that he made. This was a new venue, Shahi Dawat restaurant near Mumbai Central East and the 40 or so people who made it all reported liking the place. It was easy to find and to get parking since it was in a mall, though we did get one complaint that the number of good looking guys who could be seen outside was too distracting for the people inside the restaurant! Our hosts at the restaurant were very welcoming and told us that they would be only too happy to host more such meets. Dr.Prasad had taken pains to make sure that the presentation was specifically meant for gay men, and this didn't just apply to the content - cancers that gay men might be more at risk from - but also the presentation which had a number of hunks sprinkled through to make sure no one went to sleep! In at least one case there were calls for a certain slide to be left on for a little longer. We were also really appreciative for one guy who had come for the meet who told us in a very matter of fact way that he had been diagnosed with a type of cancer, non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, a little more than a year back and that he had finished his treatment and that it looked like it had been successful. He took us through the process of how he felt he might have a problem last March while he was showering one day and felt a couple of lumps under his armpit. They didn't go over the next few days, so he went to a doctor who said that they needed to be taken out and that cancer was a possibility. He went for the operation, where many more lumps than he realized he had were discovered and taken out and the biopsies showed that this was non-Hodgkin's lymphoma and that he had to go on treatment at once. He was freaking out, of course, and had decided to do this in his home town in Calcutta, when he got a call from his boss. When the boss heard what had happened he ordered this guy to come back to Mumbai, where he would arrange for his treatment by the best doctors. He told the guy that he could work as much as he liked, and in fact the guy said he managed to come in off and on through most of the year and that gave a normality to his life that was really important. He also said that a huge source of support had been the many gay friends he had, including guys he just knew through Facebook who really rallied round and supported him and gave his the courage not to give in to depression and to deal with the treatment. A really cool story and it was great that he was able to make it to this meet to share with us. The inoculations, which took place after the presentation and the snacks, also went off well, with much less shrieking at getting injections than I remember from when we last did it several years back. At that time, I remember some guys really almost howled, but here the main problem was where to give the injections. No, not in the butt, though some guys offered, but the problem with upper arms was that most people had shirts that were too tight - or muscles too big - for them to be able to roll it up easily for the shots. This meant that some guys pretty much had to take their shirts off which was, of course, much appreciated in some cases. I must remember next time to specify that shirts should be loose, unless you specifically want to take them off! In all 26 guys got shots, and also four of the staff members at the restaurant agreed to get the free shots when we asked if they'd like to do it too. We will be organizing another event a month from now in the same place for the second round of shots and we'll send out reminders to everyone who took the doses this time. If you weren't able to come and still want to start the course, you're welcome to take a first shot then, but you will have to go to your regular doctor for the second shot a month from then. The specific question I wanted to bring up here was about one of the cancers that Dr.Prasad felt that the gay community might be particularly at a risk. While he spoke about cancers like anal and prostate cancers, and cervical cancer for lesbians, he said a much more basic problem was one of the biggest cancers of all - lung cancer due to smoking. He said he had heard that there was a lot of smoking at gay parties and this was a real problem, not just for the smokers, but as much for the non-smokers, because the second-hand smoke they were getting was not even filtered as it was for the smokes, but had all the carcinogens in full. Everybody at the meet who went for parties regularly was able to confirm what he said about the smoking problem. Some groups like GB do try and enforce the no-smoking in closed spaces rule and request people to go outside or to smoking
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Since I'm new here and have a western perspective, I'll weigh in. I think often FEAR drives behavior. Often that FEAR is fear of the unknown. A person who begins experiencing feelings for someone of the same sex make feel that those feelings are not natural. They may fear rejection. What is the relationship become too close? What will my family think? What position does my religion have in my decision? Will this person I have feelings for still like me a year from now, or in 10 years. In groups, societies and cultures where gay/lesbian/bisexual and transgender PEOPLE lead healthy, happy lives, they experience a freedom to BE, just BE who they are without judgement and without fear that someone else will try and steal their happiness. And you can't leave sexual attraction out of the picture. People are often drawn to one another by what they see on the outside. Sexual attraction can be very strong. If the initial message is I just want to be friends and BOTH parties aren't hearing the same message, there's going to be confusion. In most western communities, people don't look for Friends online. They're looking for a sex partner. Friends can be found at coffeeshops, community centers, shopping areas where you find common interest. Sex partners can more easily be found online. For the record, I've been in a a relationship for 11 years. My partner and I do everything together, including what has been described here BUT when (occassionally) we want to bring a third into our relationship for sex, we look online. It's quick, its easy, its done. I also think this board serves a valuable purpose in letting peple identify others who are similar in a city so large and in a culture that typically does not accept or tolerate same sex relationship. Best regards, all. = Posted through Grouply, the better way to access your Yahoo Groups like this one. http://www.grouply.com/?code=post
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Dear All, Thank god. people are coming and discussing on the sameI know there are very few people here who are like to have true friendship and like to share each others feelings (being gay and accepting gay are sometimes makes most of the people feel lonely, distinguished from society..but who cares about these thingsunderstands very few)...hopefully we'll see change in people's mind. Sanjay : thanks a lot for starting this issue..these things are in my mind since quite a long time...and where did my reply hurt u? pls reply Behind this face, is a Person who feels things like everyone else, Behind this face, is a person who want to be treated like everyone else. From: tarunpreet grover tarunpreet.gro...@gmail..com To: lonelyna...@yahoo.in Cc: tropical_islandboy2...@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, 15 February, 2009 9:28:22 PM Subject: Fwd: g_b A Query Hi All, How r u doing? Even I am totally agree with you and also looking for a friend but a friend, in its true sense, who understands each other's feelings and will remain in touch forever. Hope you are getting what i was trying to explain. So, if you think that I can be the person for your friendship, then it's my pleasure and mail all your basic details to begin with our friendship... Thanks regards, Tarunpreet On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Amit Khanna amitsayhito...@yahoo.com wrote: HI all, I agree , I am myself looking for true friendship , sex - NO sex does not matter to me. Because I know if sex is there sooner or later it fates out and the friendship is over . I just want a true friendship and thats what I like the presence and togetherness at all times .- AMIT --- On Sat, 2/14/09, Sanjay Lulla sanjay_lulla2...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Sanjay Lulla sanjay_lulla2...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: g_b A Query To: lonelyna...@yahoo.in lonelyna...@yahoo.in Cc: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, February 14, 2009, 4:33 PM Ouch Nayan that hurt a lot :-( Nayan Sawant wrote: I totally agree with you, i dont know why most of the people here having this mentality... Im here for friendsi have had got many..but at the end most of them jump on sex...and if there is NO from my side...then they disappear. (what is meaning of 'FRIENDSHIP' here?) Forget about relationship. ..Why cant I find atlist genuine and true friendship here? From: Bob Alone b4al...@yahoo. com To: gay_bom...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Saturday, 14 February, 2009 12:21:00 AM Subject: Re: g_b A Query bcoz we all are human we are looking for some thing ( but we dont know what we are looking for) its about all of us what i believe if i like some one tell him on his face and if i dont like then will do the same on top i will tell him why luv you all guys From: menmen69 sheikh menmen...@yahoo. com To: gay_bom...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 3:09:51 PM Subject: Re: g_b A Query You r absolutely right , I hav experienced myself. 100% right, even I sometime think what went wrong. --- On Fri, 2/13/09, Sanjay Lulla sanjay_lulla2000@ yahoo.com wrote: From: Sanjay Lulla sanjay_lulla2000@ yahoo.com Subject: g_b A Query To: gay_bombay@ yahoogroups. com gay_bom...@yahoogro ups.com , gaybom...@yahoogro ups.com gaybom...@yahoogrou ps.com Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 7:07 AM I have a query. I have observed this in gay people that one day the appear to be best of friends, all ahhs n oh ohs hugs and one fine day without rhyme or reason they are not your frnds nemore. I am not talking abt being in relationship or fuck buddies but of #39;friendship #39;. I say in our community since I personally have experinced this. My quest is why do they behave like this. One can go crazy thinking what went wrong? God help them. Any comments? Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! Click here. Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
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HI all, I agree , I am myself looking for true friendship , sex - NO sex does not matter to me. Because I know if sex is there sooner or later it fates out and the friendship is over . I just want a true friendship and thats what I like the presence and togetherness at all times .- AMIT --- On Sat, 2/14/09, Sanjay Lulla sanjay_lulla2...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Sanjay Lulla sanjay_lulla2...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: g_b A Query To: lonelyna...@yahoo.in lonelyna...@yahoo.in Cc: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, February 14, 2009, 4:33 PM Ouch Nayan that hurt a lot :-( Nayan Sawant wrote: I totally agree with you, i dont know why most of the people here having this mentality... Im here for friendsi have had got many..but at the end most of them jump on sex...and if there is NO from my side..then they disappear. (what is meaning of 'FRIENDSHIP' here?) Forget about relationship. ..Why cant I find atlist genuine and true friendship here? From: Bob Alone b4al...@yahoo. com To: gay_bom...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Saturday, 14 February, 2009 12:21:00 AM Subject: Re: g_b A Query bcoz we all are human we are looking for some thing ( but we dont know what we are looking for) its about all of us what i believe if i like some one tell him on his face and if i dont like then will do the same on top i will tell him why luv you all guys From: menmen69 sheikh menmen...@yahoo. com To: gay_bom...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 3:09:51 PM Subject: Re: g_b A Query You r absolutely right , I hav experienced myself. 100% right, even I sometime think what went wrong. --- On Fri, 2/13/09, Sanjay Lulla sanjay_lulla2000@ yahoo.com wrote: From: Sanjay Lulla sanjay_lulla2000@ yahoo.com Subject: g_b A Query To: gay_bombay@ yahoogroups. com gay_bom...@yahoogro ups.com , gaybom...@yahoogro ups.com gaybom...@yahoogrou ps.com Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 7:07 AM I have a query. I have observed this in gay people that one day the appear to be best of friends, all ahhs n oh ohs hugs and one fine day without rhyme or reason they are not your frnds nemore. I am not talking abt being in relationship or fuck buddies but of #39;friendship #39;. I say in our community since I personally have experinced this. My quest is why do they behave like this. One can go crazy thinking what went wrong? God help them. Any comments? Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! Click here.
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Dear All Its seems a intresting topic where most of we start to put our valuable comments , good 2 know that most of guys are agreed that this happens ? now lets brain strom that how we can avoid or in other words lets say that how 2 change ppl from 1 night stand to real friendship or long term ? share ur ideas which can be improved ? here is my countribution n hope you guys will share same from ur experince? When u meet 4 first time to some 1, do u guys go 4 1st time sex fun or wait untill next meeet? usually the 1st meet should b limitd 2 coffe or drink isn't true to know ppl n give them some confidence to be devloped in each other? Regards Jimmy Khan --- On Sun, 2/15/09, Amit Khanna amitsayhito...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Amit Khanna amitsayhito...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: g_b A Query To: lonelyna...@yahoo.in lonelyna...@yahoo.in, gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 2:44 AM HI all, I agree , I am myself looking for true friendship , sex - NO sex does not matter to me. Because I know if sex is there sooner or later it fates out and the friendship is over . I just want a true friendship and thats what I like the presence and togetherness at all times .- AMIT --- On Sat, 2/14/09, Sanjay Lulla sanjay_lulla2000@ yahoo.com wrote: From: Sanjay Lulla sanjay_lulla2000@ yahoo.com Subject: Re: g_b A Query To: lonelynayan@ yahoo.in lonelynayan@ yahoo.in Cc: gay_bom...@yahoogro ups.com gay_bom...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Saturday, February 14, 2009, 4:33 PM Ouch Nayan that hurt a lot :-( Nayan Sawant wrote: I totally agree with you, i dont know why most of the people here having this mentality... Im here for friendsi have had got many..but at the end most of them jump on sex...and if there is NO from my side..then they disappear. (what is meaning of 'FRIENDSHIP' here?) Forget about relationship. ..Why cant I find atlist genuine and true friendship here? From: Bob Alone b4al...@yahoo. com To: gay_bom...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Saturday, 14 February, 2009 12:21:00 AM Subject: Re: g_b A Query bcoz we all are human we are looking for some thing ( but we dont know what we are looking for) its about all of us what i believe if i like some one tell him on his face and if i dont like then will do the same on top i will tell him why luv you all guys From: menmen69 sheikh menmen...@yahoo. com To: gay_bom...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 3:09:51 PM Subject: Re: g_b A Query You r absolutely right , I hav experienced myself. 100% right, even I sometime think what went wrong. --- On Fri, 2/13/09, Sanjay Lulla sanjay_lulla2000@ yahoo.com wrote: From: Sanjay Lulla sanjay_lulla2000@ yahoo.com Subject: g_b A Query To: gay_bombay@ yahoogroups. com gay_bombay@ yahoogro ups.com , gaybom...@yahoogro ups.com gaybom...@yahoogro u ps.com Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 7:07 AM I have a query. I have observed this in gay people that one day the appear to be best of friends, all ahhs n oh ohs hugs and one fine day without rhyme or reason they are not your frnds nemore. I am not talking abt being in relationship or fuck buddies but of #39;friendship #39;. I say in our community since I personally have experinced this. My quest is why do they behave like this. One can go crazy thinking what went wrong? God help them. Any comments? Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! Click here.
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Ouch Nayan that hurt a lot :-( Nayan Sawant wrote: I totally agree with you, i dont know why most of the people here having this mentality... Im here for friendsi have had got many..but at the end most of them jump on sex...and if there is NO from my side..then they disappear. (what is meaning of 'FRIENDSHIP' here?) Forget about relationship. ..Why cant I find atlist genuine and true friendship here? From: Bob Alone b4al...@yahoo. com To: gay_bom...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Saturday, 14 February, 2009 12:21:00 AM Subject: Re: g_b A Query bcoz we all are human we are looking for some thing ( but we dont know what we are looking for) its about all of us what i believe if i like some one tell him on his face and if i dont like then will do the same on top i will tell him why luv you all guys From: menmen69 sheikh menmen...@yahoo. com To: gay_bom...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 3:09:51 PM Subject: Re: g_b A Query You r absolutely right , I hav experienced myself. 100% right, even I sometime think what went wrong. --- On Fri, 2/13/09, Sanjay Lulla sanjay_lulla2000@ yahoo.com wrote: From: Sanjay Lulla sanjay_lulla2000@ yahoo.com Subject: g_b A Query To: gay_bombay@ yahoogroups. com gay_bom...@yahoogro ups.com , gaybom...@yahoogro ups.com gaybom...@yahoogrou ps.com Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 7:07 AM I have a query. I have observed this in gay people that one day the appear to be best of friends, all ahhs n oh ohs hugs and one fine day without rhyme or reason they are not your frnds nemore. I am not talking abt being in relationship or fuck buddies but of #39;friendship #39;. I say in our community since I personally have experinced this. My quest is why do they behave like this. One can go crazy thinking what went wrong? God help them. Any comments? Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! Click here.
g_b A Query
I have a query. I have observed this in gay people that one day the appear to be best of friends, all ahhs n oh ohs hugs and one fine day without rhyme or reason they are not your frnds nemore. I am not talking abt being in relationship or fuck buddies but of #39;friendship#39;. I say in our community since I personally have experinced this. My quest is why do they behave like this. One can go crazy thinking what went wrong? God help them. Any comments?
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You r absolutely right , I hav experienced myself. 100% right, even I sometime think what went wrong. --- On Fri, 2/13/09, Sanjay Lulla sanjay_lulla2...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Sanjay Lulla sanjay_lulla2...@yahoo.com Subject: g_b A Query To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, gaybom...@yahoogroups.com gaybom...@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 7:07 AM I have a query. I have observed this in gay people that one day the appear to be best of friends, all ahhs n oh ohs hugs and one fine day without rhyme or reason they are not your frnds nemore. I am not talking abt being in relationship or fuck buddies but of #39;friendship #39;. I say in our community since I personally have experinced this. My quest is why do they behave like this. One can go crazy thinking what went wrong? God help them. Any comments?
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Dear Sanjay this type of nature its human nature which can be find in any human been but yes i agreed with you this more offten happens in gays, you wanna know why so? reason is very simple its nothing but ego . every 1 wish to feel special but in return they concider that others are not worthy at all , only word I ( Which is ego) makes all of suden things worse n suden make things normal. i belive, that human factor from our nature is missing when we start to point on some one without knowing reason. regards JIMMY KHAN --- On Fri, 2/13/09, Sanjay Lulla sanjay_lulla2...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Sanjay Lulla sanjay_lulla2...@yahoo.com Subject: g_b A Query To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com, gaybom...@yahoogroups.com gaybom...@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 7:07 AM I have a query. I have observed this in gay people that one day the appear to be best of friends, all ahhs n oh ohs hugs and one fine day without rhyme or reason they are not your frnds nemore. I am not talking abt being in relationship or fuck buddies but of #39;friendship #39;. I say in our community since I personally have experinced this. My quest is why do they behave like this. One can go crazy thinking what went wrong? God help them. Any comments?
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bcoz we all are human we are looking for some thing ( but we dont know what we are looking for) its about all of us what i believe if i like some one tell him on his face and if i dont like then will do the same on top i will tell him why luv you all guys From: menmen69 sheikh menmen...@yahoo.com To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 3:09:51 PM Subject: Re: g_b A Query You r absolutely right , I hav experienced myself. 100% right, even I sometime think what went wrong. --- On Fri, 2/13/09, Sanjay Lulla sanjay_lulla2000@ yahoo.com wrote: From: Sanjay Lulla sanjay_lulla2000@ yahoo.com Subject: g_b A Query To: gay_bombay@ yahoogroups. com gay_bom...@yahoogro ups.com, gaybom...@yahoogro ups.com gaybom...@yahoogrou ps.com Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 7:07 AM I have a query. I have observed this in gay people that one day the appear to be best of friends, all ahhs n oh ohs hugs and one fine day without rhyme or reason they are not your frnds nemore. I am not talking abt being in relationship or fuck buddies but of #39;friendship #39;. I say in our community since I personally have experinced this. My quest is why do they behave like this. One can go crazy thinking what went wrong? God help them. Any comments?
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