Re: [BUG] gcc-3.4.5-20050531 (i386): __FUNCTION__ as a part of the printf's format argument
On Jul 25, 2005, at 1:58 AM, Paolo Carlini wrote: Richard Guenther wrote: Btw, this list is for the development _of_ gcc, not with gcc. Use gcc-help for that. By the way, since we have to point out that *so often*, maybe there is something wrong on our part: I wonder whether changing the names of those lists would help!?!? I don't know: gcc-development, gcc-users, ... Perhaps adding something similar to the above to the description of the gcc list on the web page would help. What's there seems clear enough to me, but perhaps a bigger hammer would help other people.
Re: [BUG] gcc-3.4.5-20050531 (i386): __FUNCTION__ as a part of the printf's format argument
The first step is to have clear documentation. I sent a message to someone who would posted a question and he replied by pointing to a clear statement that said tried gcc-help first if you have questions and if that doesn't work try gcc, and that's what he did!
Re: [BUG] gcc-3.4.5-20050531 (i386): __FUNCTION__ as a part of the printf's format argument
Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > After >all, people doing development *with* GCC might also think tha >gcc-development is the proper place ot sned mails instad of gcc-help >:-) > > Yes ;-) On the other hand, some people may believe that gcc-help is the right list to arrange donations and other activies helping the gcc project :-) Paolo.
Re: [BUG] gcc-3.4.5-20050531 (i386): __FUNCTION__ as a part of the printf's format argument
Mike Stump <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | On Monday, July 25, 2005, at 01:58 AM, Paolo Carlini wrote: | > By the way, since we have to point out that *so often*, maybe there is | > something wrong on our part: I wonder whether changing the names of | > those lists would help!?!? I don't know: gcc-development, gcc-users, | > ... | | No, randomly changing mainline list names will confuse the thousands | of people that are not confused. I agree changing the list name isn't a proper long term, fix. After all, people doing development *with* GCC might also think tha gcc-development is the proper place ot sned mails instad of gcc-help :-) -- Gaby
Re: [BUG] gcc-3.4.5-20050531 (i386): __FUNCTION__ as a part of the printf's format argument
On Monday, July 25, 2005, at 01:58 AM, Paolo Carlini wrote: By the way, since we have to point out that *so often*, maybe there is something wrong on our part: I wonder whether changing the names of those lists would help!?!? I don't know: gcc-development, gcc-users, ... No, randomly changing mainline list names will confuse the thousands of people that are not confused. Better to ask them why they thought this list was a good idea, and then track down the root of the problem, and then fix that. In the past when I did it, it could be traced to people telling them, or to the web site directly. For example, we could completely remove all references to the gcc mailing list from the web site, and invite people after the post a single good patch to gcc-help. :-) Or, maybe just put it on a page called contributing work to gcc. Most using gcc that just want help would not even go to such a page.
Re: [BUG] gcc-3.4.5-20050531 (i386): __FUNCTION__ as a part of the printf's format argument
On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 11:35:27AM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote: > > Ok, but such a code used to be compiled succesively with gcc for > > years. Then, some change _in_ gcc has occured. That is why I've > > posted to here. > > Yes, it was deprecated in 3.1 (released three years ago) and removed in > 3.3 (released two years ago). Really, things are not _so_ dramatical... This is a cite from extend.tex: * These identifiers are not preprocessor macros. In GCC 3.3 and * earlier, in C only, __FUNCTION__ and __PRETTY_FUNCTION__ were * treated as string literals; they could be used to initialize char * arrays, and they could be concatenated with other string literals. * GCC 3.4 and later treat them as variables, like __func__. So, the behaviour is changed for 3.4, and is not changed for 3.3. And it is STILL not changed - 3.3 is alive - isn't it?
Re: [BUG] gcc-3.4.5-20050531 (i386): __FUNCTION__ as a part of the printf's format argument
Ok, but such a code used to be compiled succesively with gcc for years. Then, some change _in_ gcc has occured. That is why I've posted to here. Yes, it was deprecated in 3.1 (released three years ago) and removed in 3.3 (released two years ago). Paolo
Re: [BUG] gcc-3.4.5-20050531 (i386): __FUNCTION__ as a part of the printf's format argument
Paolo Carlini wrote: By the way, since we have to point out that *so often*, maybe there is something wrong on our part: I wonder whether changing the names of those lists would help!?!? I don't know: gcc-development, gcc-users, ... one problem is that people often say something like: Btw, this list is for the development _of_ gcc, not with gcc. Use gcc-help for that. and then go on to answer any way, which somewhat undermines the msg, and encourages similar questions. i know that people are trying to be helpful, which is understandable, but ... also there is official gcc info suggesting asking this list for general help if gcc-help does not answer.
Re: [BUG] gcc-3.4.5-20050531 (i386): __FUNCTION__ as a part of the printf's format argument
On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 10:51:23AM +0200, Richard Guenther wrote: > On 7/25/05, Denis Zaitsev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Such an example can't be compiled: > > > > > > #include > > > > void x() > > { > > printf(__FUNCTION__ "\n"); > > } > > > > > > $ gcc printf.c -o fprintf > > printf.c: In function `x': > > printf.c:5: error: syntax error before string constant > > __FUNCTION__ expands to a variable. Use > > printf("%s\n", __FUNCTION__); > > instead. Btw, this list is for the development _of_ gcc, not with gcc. > Use gcc-help for that. Ok, but such a code used to be compiled succesively with gcc for years. Then, some change _in_ gcc has occured. That is why I've posted to here. Really, I've met the problem, when I was compiling the X Window System system. The sources contain a lot of such an examples.
Re: [BUG] gcc-3.4.5-20050531 (i386): __FUNCTION__ as a part of the printf's format argument
Richard Guenther wrote: >Btw, this list is for the development _of_ gcc, not with gcc. >Use gcc-help for that. > > By the way, since we have to point out that *so often*, maybe there is something wrong on our part: I wonder whether changing the names of those lists would help!?!? I don't know: gcc-development, gcc-users, ... Paolo.
Re: [BUG] gcc-3.4.5-20050531 (i386): __FUNCTION__ as a part of the printf's format argument
On 7/25/05, Denis Zaitsev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Such an example can't be compiled: > > > #include > > void x() > { > printf(__FUNCTION__ "\n"); > } > > > $ gcc printf.c -o fprintf > printf.c: In function `x': > printf.c:5: error: syntax error before string constant __FUNCTION__ expands to a variable. Use printf("%s\n", __FUNCTION__); instead. Btw, this list is for the development _of_ gcc, not with gcc. Use gcc-help for that. Richard. > > Then, the problem is not printf-specific and is not depend of > . The next example gives the same error: > > > void y(const char *f, ...); > void z() > { > y(__FUNCTION__ "\n"); > } > > > If some args are present in the ellipsis section (i.e. y(__FUNCTION__ > ": %s\n", "xxx")), the problem doesn't vanish. And, if __FILE__ is > used instead of __FUNCTION__, the problem is absent. >
[BUG] gcc-3.4.5-20050531 (i386): __FUNCTION__ as a part of the printf's format argument
Such an example can't be compiled: #include void x() { printf(__FUNCTION__ "\n"); } $ gcc printf.c -o fprintf printf.c: In function `x': printf.c:5: error: syntax error before string constant Then, the problem is not printf-specific and is not depend of . The next example gives the same error: void y(const char *f, ...); void z() { y(__FUNCTION__ "\n"); } If some args are present in the ellipsis section (i.e. y(__FUNCTION__ ": %s\n", "xxx")), the problem doesn't vanish. And, if __FILE__ is used instead of __FUNCTION__, the problem is absent.