Re: [gdal-dev] weeding out x,y,z points

2009-02-26 Thread Wesley Roberts
Have you looked at the spatial applications available in R. It sounds like you 
have a lidar data set yes? R has a bunch of packages that could help, gstat, 
spatstat, maptools, sp, etc have a look at 

http://wiki.r-project.org/rwiki/doku.php?id=tips:spatial-data

One option I can think of, but cant remember how to do it is the following. 
Sometimes when interpolating lidar points (or any for that matter) it is useful 
to remove some points from your data for validation later on. typically one 
would remove 5 or 10% of the data and use this to validate the final surface. 
So you would then sit with the modelling data containing 90% of the original 
data and your validation data containing 10% of the original data. The removal 
is usually done randomly and would therefore allow you to retain the structure 
of your original data.

As I said earlier I cant exactly remember how this is done, but the link should 
give you a good start.

HTH
Wesley

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 nicholas.g.lawre...@mainroads.qld.gov.au 02/26/09 6:57 AM 
 nicholas.g.lawre...@mainroads.qld.gov.au wrote:
  A client has a very large (millions of records) ascii file consisting
  solely of x,y,z co-ordinates.
 
  They would like to reduce the number of records by weeking out points
that
  are too close to each other.
 
  Can GDAL or OGR weed out 3D points based on proximity to each other?


 A job for GMT's blockmean or blockmedian.

 Joaquim Luis

Okay, I downloaded the Manpages.

My initial reading is that blockmean and blockmedian work by averaging
the values.

My client says that they want the resulting data points to be
a subset of the original data points, that is the process should
delete points, not re-calculate new ones that are an average.

Is this still do-able? Is there a specific option I should
be looking at?

Regards,
nick


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Re: [gdal-dev] weeding out x,y,z points

2009-02-26 Thread Jose Gomez-Dans
Hi,

2009/2/26 Ari Jolma ari.jo...@tkk.fi

 nicholas.g.lawre...@mainroads.qld.gov.au wrote:


 nicholas.g.lawre...@mainroads.qld.gov.au

 Can GDAL or OGR weed out 3D points based on proximity to each other?


  I would use plain Perl (or Python or high level language X) to read in
 the points sequentially and discard new ones that are too close to
 existing ones. It may take a while  require a bit of memory it is probably
 doable that way (millions of points but not 100s of millions in the end
 set). The program shouldn't need to be more than 20 lines I guess.


scipy (python's numeric/scientific workhorse) now has a Kdtrees
capabilities, which are an efficient way of working out distances between
points:
http://docs.scipy.org/doc/scipy/reference/spatial.html

Best regards,
Jose
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Re: [gdal-dev] Link GDAL with MinGW

2009-02-26 Thread Ari Jolma
MinGW gcc generates .dll.a files, which are the link libraries, but it 
can also use the plain dll to link against.


However, when you mention gdal16.dll, it sounds like you're trying to 
link against a GDAL dll that was generated with VC. The C++ API is very 
difficult to use from such dll when you're developing with MinGW if not 
impossible. I, for one, have never succeeded. The Swig bindings use some 
C++ API, which have so far prevented me from using an official binary 
gdal dll for the Perl bindings for example.


Ari

LF kirjoitti:

Hi to everyone,
I'm trying to make a plugin for GDAL. So I need to use some GDALDataset methods
(AddBand, GetDriver, setGCPs, ...).
When I compile my code with MinGW it's all OK, but when MinGW starts linking it
doesn't found these methods and give me undefined reference to all them.
In makefile I added to LNK_FLAGS variable both gdal16.dll and its path. I tried
to use gdal_i.lib of 1.5 version too, but nothing appened.
If it's useful I copy CPP_FLAGS following:

CPPFLAGS:=-Wall -DCSK_PLUGIN -fPIC $(GDAL_INCLUDE) $(HDF5_INCLUDE) $(CPPFLAGS)
CPPFLAGS:= -DH5_HAVE_HIGH_LEVEL_API $(CPPFLAGS)
CPPFLAGS:= -DWIN32 -DDLL_EXPORT -DPIC $(CPPFLAGS)


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[gdal-dev] Re: Link GDAL with MinGW

2009-02-26 Thread LF
Ari Jolma ari.jolma at tkk.fi writes:
 
 MinGW gcc generates .dll.a files, which are the link libraries, but it 
 can also use the plain dll to link against.
 
 However, when you mention gdal16.dll, it sounds like you're trying to 
 link against a GDAL dll that was generated with VC. The C++ API is very 
 difficult to use from such dll when you're developing with MinGW if not 
 impossible.
I'm not sure of this. In the same project I linked *correctly* hdf5 library,
which is a dll file and I think compiled with VC. 
I've problem only with gdal.

Perhaps it needs some flags when compile.
 
 Ari
 
 LF kirjoitti:
  Hi to everyone,
  I'm trying to make a plugin for GDAL. So I need to use some GDALDataset 
methods
  (AddBand, GetDriver, setGCPs, ...).
  When I compile my code with MinGW it's all OK, but when MinGW starts 
linking it
  doesn't found these methods and give me undefined reference to all them.
  In makefile I added to LNK_FLAGS variable both gdal16.dll and its path.

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Re: [gdal-dev] Re: Link GDAL with MinGW

2009-02-26 Thread Ari Jolma

LF kirjoitti:

Ari Jolma ari.jolma at tkk.fi writes:
  
MinGW gcc generates .dll.a files, which are the link libraries, but it 
can also use the plain dll to link against.


However, when you mention gdal16.dll, it sounds like you're trying to 
link against a GDAL dll that was generated with VC. The C++ API is very 
difficult to use from such dll when you're developing with MinGW if not 
impossible.


I'm not sure of this. In the same project I linked *correctly* hdf5 library,
which is a dll file and I think compiled with VC. 
I've problem only with gdal.


Perhaps it needs some flags when compile.
  


But you do use VC compiled GDAL DLL? HDF5 seems to be available in many 
formats (for cygwin, vs2005, etc). I'm just looking at a hdf5dll.dll and 
it does not export anything in C++, while gdal16.dll does. I believe gcc 
is not able to decrypt the way VC exports C++ methods, which you are using.


Why don't you use the GDAL DLL that you get from compiling it with MinGW?

Ari
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Re: [gdal-dev] Link GDAL with MinGW

2009-02-26 Thread Frank Warmerdam

Ari Jolma wrote:
oops, I believe it is not correct to say Swig bindings use some C++ 
API, but it is nevertheless sometimes hard/not possible to mix VC and 
MinGW when developing for Windows


Folks,

I am interested in making use of the GDAL and OGR C API practical and even
convenient when GDAL is built with MSVC and applications are built with
MinGW.  If there is a particular problem with this, I would encourage
filing a ticket.

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[gdal-dev] Re: Link GDAL with MinGW

2009-02-26 Thread LF
Frank Warmerdam warmerdam at pobox.com writes:

 
 Ari Jolma wrote:
  oops, I believe it is not correct to say Swig bindings use some C++ 
  API, but it is nevertheless sometimes hard/not possible to mix VC and 
  MinGW when developing for Windows
 
 Folks,
 
 I am interested in making use of the GDAL and OGR C API practical and even
 convenient when GDAL is built with MSVC and applications are built with
 MinGW.  If there is a particular problem with this, I would encourage
 filing a ticket.
 
 Best regards,

First of all, thanks to your fast answers.
Then, I report following my makefile.


GDAL_ROOT=C:\gdalwin32-1.6_bin\

LD_SHARED=g++ -shared
OBJ=hdf5dataset.o hdf5imagedataset.o
GDAL_INCLUDE=-I C:\gdal_1_6_0_DEV\include
HDF5_INCLUDE=-I C:\5-168-win-vnet_corrected_for_MinGW\include
CPPFLAGS:=-Wall -fPIC $(GDAL_INCLUDE) $(CPPFLAGS) $(HDF5_INCLUDE)
CPPFLAGS:= -DWIN32 -DDLL_EXPORT -DPIC $(CPPFLAGS)

# Comment out for release mode
CPPFLAGS:=-g3 -ggdb3 -DDEBUG $(CPPFLAGS)
LNK_FLAGS:=$(LNK_FLAGS) -L C:\gdalwin32-1.6_bin\bin
#both msvcr inserted 71 and 90
LNK_FLAGS:=$(LNK_FLAGS) -lgdal16 -lmsvcr71 -lmsvcr91
LNK_FLAGS:=$(LNK_FLAGS) -L C:\5-168-win-vnet_corrected_for_MinGW\dll
LNK_FLAGS:=$(LNK_FLAGS) -lhdf5_cppdll -lhdf5dll -lhdf5_hldll

.PHONY: default plugin clean

PLUGIN = gdal_HDF5.so
default: plugin
clean:
rm -f *.o *~ $(PLUGIN)

hdf5dataset.o: hdf5dataset.h
hdf5imagedataset.o: hdf5dataset.h
plugin: $(PLUGIN)
$(PLUGIN):  $(OBJ)
$(LD_SHARED) $(OBJ) $(LNK_FLAGS) -o $



When I compile my code with MinGW it's all OK, but when MinGW starts 
linking it doesn't found all methods of GDALDataset giving me undefined
reference to them. It seems not to link gdal dll.

You can try it in gdalsrc/frmts/hdf5 because it needs three source files in this
folder.

PS. To avoid compiling errors I re-compiled hdf5 as described here:
http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/gdal-dev/2007-April/012825.html  and modified
/hdf5/include/H5pubconf.h defining H5_SIZEOF_SSIZE_T:
 #define H5_SIZEOF_SSIZE_T  4 /* for 32 bit machines */
(as described here
http://trac.nexusformat.org/code/browser/branches/4.1/README.MinGW?rev=998)

PS2. I tried to convert gdal dll into a .a file for MinGW as described here:
http://www.mingw.org/wiki/MSVC_and_MinGW_DLLs but it doesn-t link correctly.


Best regards
Luca

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Re: [gdal-dev] Re: Link GDAL with MinGW

2009-02-26 Thread Frank Warmerdam

LF wrote:

First of all, thanks to your fast answers.
Then, I report following my makefile.


GDAL_ROOT=C:\gdalwin32-1.6_bin\

LD_SHARED=g++ -shared
OBJ=hdf5dataset.o hdf5imagedataset.o


Luca,

I get the impression you are trying to build the HDF5 plugin with MinGW
for use with a GDAL built with MSVC.  Plugins use the C++ API and are
generally not going to be compatible between compilers.  At this time
I believe you just have to use a similar compiler to build plugins as
was used to build the core GDAL library.

The offer to improve MinGW/MSVC mixing only applies to the GDAL/OGR C API
(not the C++ API) and is mainly aimed at making it possible to build
applications against the GDAL/OGR C API using MinGW when GDAL is built with
MSVC.

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Re: [gdal-dev] weeding out x,y,z points

2009-02-26 Thread Joaquim Luis



Okay, I downloaded the Manpages.

My initial reading is that blockmean and blockmedian work by averaging
the values.


blockmedian does not do point average. It does take the median point inside 
each bin.
However, if the number of points inside a bin is even than it takes the average
of the two central points.


My client says that they want the resulting data points to be
a subset of the original data points, that is the process should
delete points, not re-calculate new ones that are an average.


Well, you (or the client) do what you want, but that is not the
correct procedure because it may introduce aliasing. What will be the
condition to decide the reference point towards which the others
are compared?

Joaquim

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[gdal-dev] Failure to compile 1.6.0 with errors 'libgdal.so: undefined reference to `PMPI::Intracomm::current_op'

2009-02-26 Thread Steve Walker
Hi, I'm a brand new visitor to your list here.

I'm working on Debian Squeeze and have had a functioning 1.6.0 install
(compiled, not from a .deb) version up until this morning, when I went to
re-compile so as to include additional support, specifically ogdi.

After a half day of trying and failing, I felt it time to come here.  The
error looks like this:

/bin/sh /home/walker/admin/gdal-1.6.0/libtool --mode=link   g++  gdalinfo.o 
 \
/home/walker/admin/gdal-1.6.0/libgdal.la -o gdalinfo
libtool: link: g++ gdalinfo.o -o .libs/gdalinfo 
/home/walker/admin/gdal-1.6.0/.libs/libgdal.so -L/usr/lib -L/usr/local/lib
-L/usr/lib/lib -L/usr/include/ogdi -L/usr/include/ogdi/lib
-L/usr/lib/grass/lib -L/usr/local/Geo_DSDK-7.0.0.2167/lib/Release
-L/usr/local/Geo_DSDK-7.0.0.2167/3rd-party/lib/Release
/usr/lib/libgeos_c.so /usr/lib/libgeos.so /usr/lib/libodbc.so
/usr/lib/libodbcinst.so /usr/lib/libltdl.so /usr/lib/libexpat.so
/usr/local/lib/libNCSEcw.so /usr/local/lib/libNCSCnet.so
/usr/local/lib/libNCSUtil.so /usr/lib/libjasper.so /usr/lib/libhdf5.so -lm
-lmfhdf -ldf -logdi31 /usr/lib/libjpeg.so -lpng -lnetcdf -lgrass_vect
-lgrass_dig2 -lgrass_dgl -lgrass_rtree -lgrass_linkm -lgrass_dbmiclient
-lgrass_dbmibase -lgrass_I -lgrass_gproj -lgrass_vask -lgrass_gmath
-lgrass_gis -lgrass_datetime -lpq -lz -lrt -ldl /usr/lib/libcurl-gnutls.so
-lltidsdk -lpthread -llt_kakadu
/home/walker/admin/gdal-1.6.0/.libs/libgdal.so: undefined reference to
`PMPI::Intracomm::current_op'
/home/walker/admin/gdal-1.6.0/.libs/libgdal.so: undefined reference to
`PMPI::Comm::mpi_comm_map'
/home/walker/admin/gdal-1.6.0/.libs/libgdal.so: undefined reference to
`MPI::Is_initialized()'
/home/walker/admin/gdal-1.6.0/.libs/libgdal.so: undefined reference to
`PMPI::Comm::mpi_err_map'
/home/walker/admin/gdal-1.6.0/.libs/libgdal.so: undefined reference to
`MPI::Op::Free()'
/home/walker/admin/gdal-1.6.0/.libs/libgdal.so: undefined reference to
`op_intercept'
/home/walker/admin/gdal-1.6.0/.libs/libgdal.so: undefined reference to
`MPI::Op::Init(void (*)(void const*, void*, int, MPI::Datatype const),
bool)'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[1]: *** [gdalinfo] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/walker/admin/gdal-1.6.0/apps'
make: *** [apps-target] Error 2


My configure command looks like this:

./configure \
  --with-libz \
  --with-pg=/usr/bin/pg_config \
  --with-grass=/usr/lib/grass \
  --with-libgrass \
  --with-cfitsio \
  --with-pcraste \
  --with-png \
  --with-libtiff \
  --with-geotiff \
  --with-jpeg \
  --with-gif \
  --with-ogdi=/usr/include/ogdi \
  --with-jasper=/usr/lib \
  --with-ecw=/usr/local \
  --with-mrsid=/usr/local/Geo_DSDK-7.0.0.2167 \
  --with-jp2mrsid \
  --with-xerces \
  --with-xerces-inc \
  --with-xerces-lib \
  --with-expat \
  --with-expat-inc \
  --with-expat-lib \
  --with-odbc \
  --with-curl=/usr/bin/curl-config \
  --with-geos \
  --with-perl \
  --with-python

I'll supply any more information as needed, such as installed packages, etc.


Thanks in advance,


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Re: [gdal-dev] ASCII Rasters and 'null' values in python-gdal

2009-02-26 Thread Chaitanya kumar CH
Oz,

NODATA_VALUES is supposed to be a pixel value (integer or real)
whereas null is a string. Try to convert all the null strings into
an unused pixel value like - in raster1.asc

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On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 2:34 AM, Oz Nahum nahu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 I have to ascii raster that I created using a text editor:
 the first is called raster1.asc and looks like this:
 ncols         6
 nrows         4
 xllcorner     3366820.019
 yllcorner     5814589.037
 cellsize      10
 NODATA_value  -
 1 1 1 1 1 1
 1 1 1 1 1 1
 1 1 1 1 1 1
 1 1 1 1 - -
 The second is called raster2.asc and looks like this:
 ncols         6
 nrows         4
 xllcorner     3366820.019
 yllcorner     5814589.037
 cellsize      10
 NODATA_value  null
 1 1 1 1 1 1
 1 1 1 1 1 1
 1 1 1 1 1 1
 1 1 1 1 null null

 When I import them into python I find out the lower right corner of the
 first raster is not giving the correct value: instead of 'null' qgis
 displays the value '31081'.
 The other raster is imported correctly and it showing 'null's for the two
 last data cells.

 dataset = gdal.Open('raster2.asc', GA_ReadOnly)
 b = gdal_array.DatasetReadAsArray(dataset)
 b
 array([[1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1],
        [1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1],
        [1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1],
        [1, 1, 1, 1, 0, 0]], dtype=int16)
 dataset = gdal.Open('raster1.asc', GA_ReadOnly)
 a = gdal_array.DatasetReadAsArray(dataset)
 a
 array([[    1,     1,     1,     1,     1,     1],
        [    1,     1,     1,     1,     1,     1],
        [    1,     1,     1,     1,     1,     1],
        [    1,     1,     1,     1, -, 31081]], dtype=int16)



 So before I go and open a bug, I just wanted to know - what is wrong ? Maybe
 it's my system setup ? Maybe i don't write correct ascii rasters ? Also,
 another thing I would like to bypass is the fact that 'null' values are
 formed as zeros in gdal-numpy - this could lead to error when doing some
 raster manipulations. Is there a way to by pass this (besides being
 aware...)?

 I use Debian Lenny the latest relevant packages from.

 Thanks,
 Oz N,
 Grad Studend,
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