[gdal-dev] problem on function OGR_FD_GetName

2010-06-17 Thread randyqiu
Hi list,
I reinstalled my OS (Ubuntu10.04) recently and now the OGR_FD_GetName
function results in layername with point,Line,Area,Meta,but I
believe this function could get a layer's object name but not its
geometry type.
I'm not sure the problem exist in environment variable or not and, if
so, what are they?
Best regards
Randy

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Re: [gdal-dev] Re: ESRI file geodatabase support

2010-06-17 Thread Peter J Halls
Another way to achieve interoperability is via a DBMS for which there is an SDE 
implementation, although this may not be appropriate for Matt Wilkie's 
requirements.  It may not be always as easy as with shapefiles but it does not 
have the limitations.  Having said that, in our Oracle environment I do have a 
problem getting SDE to recognise some spatial datasets created with GDAL but 
have yet to prove what is happening to cause this and so cannot point a finger 
of blame in any direction ...


Best wishes,

Peter

Duarte Carreira wrote:

Matt, the only reason I have seen presented for some reluctance in pushing 
spatialite as a de facto standard following shapefile's success, is not having 
a foothold in the closed source sector. That's the only thing ESRI's fgdb could 
potentially offer, since the extra data types supported will not be available 
outside ESRI's software (Terrain, Topology, Networks, etc.).

(As for interoperability with ESRI, its users can always export to shapefile. 
Ofcourse I would prefer to directly read fgdb data but if not possible it's ok 
too.)

So the question is: is it true that for a new universal spatial format to be 
born it has to have at least read support in the closed source world?

Duarte


-Mensagem original-
De: Matt Wilkie [mailto:map...@gmail.com]
Enviada: terça-feira, 15 de Junho de 2010 22:52
Para: gdal-dev@lists.osgeo.org
Assunto: [gdal-dev] Re: ESRI file geodatabase support


I think discussing a shapefile successor, or even perhaps a code sprint, is a
very good topic for FOSS4G. This same thread that we're weaving now is/has
happened on a number mailing lists and usually generated dozens of responses
each time. The interest is clear. From my vantage the germinating seed
crystal could be spatialite, but there seems to be some general reluctance
to jump on board. I'm ignorant of the reasons for that, perhaps that will
come out at FOSS4G; wish I could be there!

Ivan: I personally welcome and will use a gdal/ogr that uses the currently
installed arcgis libraries however for the health of the industry I'd like
to see unencumbered access. Thanks for letting me know at least part of my
ramblings are of interest

cheers,

-matt
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Re: [gdal-dev] problem on function OGR_FD_GetName

2010-06-17 Thread randyqiu
Hi Chaitanya,
Thanks for your quick response!
I use this function in parse a s57 file(*.000). In this format file,I
think the layer-name in OGR should be like this:
berths,bridge,canals...
which to some extend,is as same as a feature-name. But now I'm not sure
whether I understand this concept right or not? 
In my application,OGR_FD_GetName()returns:
DSID
Point
Line
Area
Meta

I'd like to know whether this function works fine or not? If yes, how
should I get a feature's name?
Thanks a lot!
Best regards,
Randy
 OGR_FD_GetName() returns the name of the feature definition set during
 it's creation. It doesn't have to be unique and doesn't represent the
 object type or geometry type. It is not affected by any environment
 variables.
 
 On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 11:53 AM, randyqiu randyqi...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
 Hi list,
 I reinstalled my OS (Ubuntu10.04) recently and now the
 OGR_FD_GetName
 function results in layername with
 point,Line,Area,Meta,but I
 believe this function could get a layer's object name but not
 its
 geometry type.
 I'm not sure the problem exist in environment variable or not
 and, if
 so, what are they?
 Best regards
 Randy
 
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Re: [gdal-dev] problem on function OGR_FD_GetName

2010-06-17 Thread Peter J Halls

Randy,

   I do not use s57 data, however I have written a number of programs which use 
OGR_FD_GetName ... and it has always returned the feature name, if set, or null 
for me.  Feature, as opposed to Layer, names seem quite uncommon, however; 
although I generally set feature names when creating data objects, I have rarely 
encountered them on input from other sources.  I have never investigated whether 
this is a failure in OGR to transmit the name or whether my presumption that 
there was no name to transmit is correct.


I'm not sure how much that helps,

Peter

randyqiu wrote:

Hi Chaitanya,
Thanks for your quick response!
I use this function in parse a s57 file(*.000). In this format file,I
think the layer-name in OGR should be like this:
berths,bridge,canals...
which to some extend,is as same as a feature-name. But now I'm not sure
whether I understand this concept right or not? 
In my application,OGR_FD_GetName()returns:

DSID
Point
Line
Area
Meta

I'd like to know whether this function works fine or not? If yes, how
should I get a feature's name?
Thanks a lot!
Best regards,
Randy

OGR_FD_GetName() returns the name of the feature definition set during
it's creation. It doesn't have to be unique and doesn't represent the
object type or geometry type. It is not affected by any environment
variables.

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 11:53 AM, randyqiu randyqi...@hotmail.com
wrote:
Hi list,
I reinstalled my OS (Ubuntu10.04) recently and now the
OGR_FD_GetName
function results in layername with
point,Line,Area,Meta,but I
believe this function could get a layer's object name but not
its
geometry type.
I'm not sure the problem exist in environment variable or not
and, if
so, what are they?
Best regards
Randy

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Re: [gdal-dev] problem on function OGR_FD_GetName

2010-06-17 Thread Chaitanya kumar CH
Randy,

I think you need to fiddle with the preprocessor definition
S57_BUILTIN_CLASSES during compilation. (
http://trac.osgeo.org/gdal/browser/trunk/gdal/ogr/ogrsf_frmts/s57/s57classregistrar.cpp
).

I didn't work with S-57 format, so I don't know any more than you.

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:51 PM, randy randyqi...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hi Peter,
 Thanks for your response!
 
  I do not use s57 data, however I have written a number of programs
 which use
  OGR_FD_GetName ... and it has always returned the feature name, if set,
 or null
  for me.  Feature, as opposed to Layer, names seem quite uncommon,
 however;
  although I generally set feature names when creating data objects, I have
 rarely
  encountered them on input from other sources.  I have never investigated
 whether
  this is a failure in OGR to transmit the name or whether my presumption
 that
  there was no name to transmit is correct.
 My problem is a little odd. In my Ubuntu9.04 OS,my application works well,
 however,
 in my new 10.04 LTS OS, I rebuilt GDAL and my application,then it refused
 to work.
  So in my last e-mail,I asked Chaitanya whether the environment variable
 did anything bad.
  I'm not sure how much that helps,
 Yes,I appreciate anything you said above including experience,suggestion...

 Best regards,
 Randy


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[gdal-dev] Re: Transparent PNG with color table (palette)

2010-06-17 Thread canduc17

I have implemented in C++ an example of color table applied to a band, taking
as reference the python script reported in this thread:

Ludwig wrote:
 
 colorTable = gdal.ColorTable()
 greentransparent = (0, 255, 0, 0)
 blue = (0,0, 255,255)
 colorTable.SetColorEntry(0, greentransparent)
 colorTable.SetColorEntry(1, blue)
 b = image.GetRasterBand(1)
 b.SetRasterColorTable(colorTable)
 

My code:

// Create a color table for the Air Quality output image
GDALColorTable *colorTable = new GDALColorTable();
GDALColorEntry black, green, yellow, orange, red, lightRed;
// Setting RGB colors for 6 classes
black.c1= 0;black.c2= 0;black.c3= 0;
black.c4= 0;
green.c1= 0;green.c2  = 255;green.c3= 0;
green.c4= 0;
yellow.c1   = 255;  yellow.c2 = 255;yellow.c3   = 0;
yellow.c4   = 0;
orange.c1   = 255;  orange.c2 = 150;orange.c3   = 0;
orange.c4   = 0;
red.c1  = 255;  red.c2  = 0;red.c3  = 0;
red.c4  = 0;
lightRed.c1 = 150;  lightRed.c2 = 0;lightRed.c3 = 0;
lightRed.c4 = 0;

// Link every color to a pixel value
colorTable-SetColorEntry(0, black);
colorTable-SetColorEntry(1, green);
colorTable-SetColorEntry(2, yellow);
colorTable-SetColorEntry(3, orange);
colorTable-SetColorEntry(4, red);
colorTable-SetColorEntry(5, lightRed);

// Apply the table to the band
myOutBand-SetColorTable(colorTable);

// Delete the GDALColorTable object
delete colorTable;

I hope this could be helpful for someone.
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[gdal-dev] Re: Warp info...

2010-06-17 Thread canduc17

I saw that this thread is quite old...it is anything changed with the last
version of GDAL?

Is the triangulation not implemented yet?

Thanks in advance.
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[gdal-dev] Problems in setting PixelFunctionType and SourceTransferType in VRTDerivedRasterBand

2010-06-17 Thread Marco Nicoletti

This is a problem which regards all the gdal versions and is about the Python
GDAL bindings.

It seems to be impossible to setup PixelFunctionType and SourceTransferType
in VRTDerivedRasterBand from Python Gdal.

This is an example using IPython:
In [20]: vrtdriver = gdal.GetDriverByName('VRT')
In [21]: vrtdset = vrtdriver.Create('vrtdset.vrt', 1000, 1000, 0)
In [22]: vrtdset.AddBand(gdal.GetDataTypeByName('Float32'),
options=['subClass=VRTDerivedRasterBand', 'PixelFunctionType=phase',
'SourceTransferType=CFloat64'])
Out[22]: 0
In[23]: vrtdset.FlushCache()

Once these commands are run, the output file vrtdataset.vrt does not contain
the element PixelFunctionType in its VRTDerivedRasterBand :
VRTDataset rasterXSize=1000 rasterYSize=1000
VRTRasterBand dataType=Float32 band=1
subClass=VRTDerivedRasterBand/
/VRTDataset

On the contrary we would expect this result:
VRTDataset rasterXSize=1000 rasterYSize=1000
VRTRasterBand dataType=Float32 band=1
subClass=VRTDerivedRasterBand
   PixelFunctionTypephase/PixelFunctionType
   SourceTransferTypeCFloat64/SourceTransferType
/VRTRasterBand
/VRTDataset

Of course we have omitted the part concerning the Source Dataset.




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[gdal-dev] gda2tiles.py tile dimesions

2010-06-17 Thread massimo costantini
Hi,
it is possible to set the tile's dimension in gdal2tiles.py?
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[gdal-dev] GDAL compiler GDAL utility use

2010-06-17 Thread Randy
Hi Peter,
Thank you so so much for your response!
I still believe there is something wrong with my GDAL compiling or environment 
variable.
I use ogrinfo(one of GDAL/OGR utilities) in GDAL on my Linux  Windows OS, the 
result is the same(wrong):
-Ogrinfo -ro -al -q US5TX51M.000 |more
ERROR 1:Invalid index :-1
ERROR 1:Invalid index :-1
ERROR 1:Invalid index :-1
ERROR 1:Invalid index :-1
//...a lot as the same as above
Layer name: DSID
...
Layer name:Point
.
Layer name:Line
..

While the ogrinfo in FWTools ,the result is as follows:
Layer name: DSID
...
Layer name: ACHARE
...
Layer name: BCNLAT
...

Then, I'd like to know what else I should do when I build GDAL in a default way:
cd 
./configure
./make
./sudo make install
What I do else until now is just set GDAL_DATA environment variable and 
OGR_S57_OPTIONS. And I use GDAL1.7.2 release version.

Best regards,
Randy
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From: Peter J Halls [mailto:p.ha...@york.ac.uk] 
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 4:54 PM
To: randy
Subject: [!! SPAM] Re: [gdal-dev] problem on function OGR_FD_GetName

Randy,

I've not worked with your platforms but, extrapolating from my 
Solaris(Sparc) environment ...

GDAL uses Environment Variables as an alternative to the configure script 
parameter list.  I'm old fashioned here and prefer the parameter list, as I 
find 
it easier to debug.  Having said that, these control things like the compiler 
to 
use and the additional libraries to configure: I do not think any of these are 
likely to affect the way OGR_FD_GetName works.  Are you using the same hardware 
environment with different operating systems?  Has Configure correctly 
determined the hardware environment?  You can work through Config.status and 
Config.log to check this - if the two GDAL environments are supposed to be the 
same, can you diff these as a quick way of finding any differences?

There are also a few Environment Variables involved at runtime eg PATH, 
LD_LIBRARY_PATH, ORACLE_HOME, TNS_ADMIN, and so on.  The last two control the 
Oracle interface; the first two affect loading a program at runtime.  If any of 
these are wrong, I would not expect execution to start or get as far as you 
have.  On that basis, I think it unlikely that you have an Environment variable 
problem.

I presume that you are reading the same file on each platform?  The 'new' 
results you are reporting look to me as though the data definition is being 
reported instead of the feature name: could it be that you are effectively 
reading alternate lines?  Do you have a problem prior to calling OGR_FD_GetName 
that may be reading the next entry in the dataset to fulfil the input request 
and thus giving the impression of the incorrect feature name?  This could come 
back to the GDAL Configure results, prior to building GDAL.  [Did you transfer 
the GDAL source directory from one platform to the other?  If so, did you run a 
'make clean' before building GDAL on the second, problematic platform?  It is 
possible for bits of an old configuration to 'linger' if the clean is not run 
...]

Hoping there is something there that helps,

Best wishes,

Peter

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RE: [gdal-dev] Proper parameters for GDALBeginAsyncReader() for RGB images

2010-06-17 Thread Zermeno, Robert J CIV NAVAIR, 472100D
Thanks Frank!

It made a lot of sense.  My last comment concerning this function is how would 
you be able to 
Acquire a smaller image size of a larger image using GDALBeginAsyncReader() for 
RGB images?

I can get it to work for Grayscale, but using the same parameters for RGB gives 
me an AccessViolation
Error.

Example:
Example not exact: 
Assume:
ImageWidth = 800
ImageHeight = 400
BufferXSize = 150
BufferYSize = 150
colorScheme = 3 (For RGB)
Bandmap[0] = 1, Bandmap[1] = 2, Bandmap[2] = 3
BYTE* JPIP_Buffer = (BYTE*)CLPMalloc(BufferXSize * BufferYSize * colorScheme) 


Call to function:

GDALBeginAsyncReader(fileDataset,
0, 0,   //Start at top-left position
ImageWidth, ImageHeight,//Note, I am requesting whole image.
JPIP_Buffer,
BufferXSize,
BufferYSize,
GDT_Byte,
colorScheme,
Bandmap,
0,
0,
0,
0);


Under the hood, how does the function take the original image size and scale it 
down to fit
Into the a size much smaller than original? For some reason, when I do this for 
RGB color 
Images, it gives a AccessViolation error when it calls 
GDALARGetNextUpdatedRegion().  However,
For Grayscale images, it works fine.  What would you think might be the problem?

Thanks,

Robert

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Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 10:05
To: Zermeno, Robert J CIV NAVAIR, 472100D
Cc: gdal-dev@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [gdal-dev] Proper parameters for GDALBeginAsyncReader() for RGB 
images

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Zermeno, Robert J CIV NAVAIR, 472100D 
robert.zerm...@navy.mil wrote:

 Do I call GDALBeginAsyncReader() three times like RasterIO?  One call 
 for Red, one for Blue, and Green?

Robert,

The AsyncReader API allows reading multiple bands in one pass, much like the 
RasterIO call on the GDALDataset.

 Am I correct so far?  For the Length of Buffer where I want to place 
 the bytes, Should I have the parameter as  (xSize * 
 GDALGetRasterCount(fileDataset) )

This is correct,

 On to
 GDALBeginAsyncReader(fileDataset,
        0, 0,                           //Start at top-left position
        BufferXSize, BufferYSize,
        JPIP_Buffer,
        BufferXSize * colorScheme,
        BufferYSize,
        GDT_Byte,
        colorScheme,
        Bandmap,
        0,
        0,
        0,
        0);

I think the problem is your passing of BufferXSize * colorScheme.
That arguments should be the number of pixels in X, but not taking in account 
the number of bands.

 How is the image data stored in JPIP_Buffer. Whould it be:
 1.rgbrgbrgbrgb
 2.
 3.bgrbgrbgrbgr

By default (if all zero for the interleaving options) the image will be 
returned in band sequential form.  So option '2' above.

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[gdal-dev] Re: GDAL compiler GDAL utility use

2010-06-17 Thread Randy
Hi Peter,
Thank you very much!
With your help,I fixed this problem!
The reason is that my GDAL_DATA environment variable is not true.
I set it first by the GDAL
FAQ(http://trac.osgeo.org/gdal/wiki/FAQInstallationAndBuilding#HowtosetGDAL_DATAvariable)
 which tells me :$ export GDAL_DATA=/usr/local/share/gdal/data
but I find in my default installing path,there is not data folder and
all the dates is in its parent directory:/usr/local/share/gdal. So I
reset my GDAL_DATA environment variable,and it works well now.I forgot
my this variable value in my last Ubuntu9.04 OS,it was a long time
ago.And I think the GDAL FAQ How to set GDAL_DATA variable? should
change its answer.

Thank you,Peter,again!

Best regards,
Randy
 Aha ...
 
  ERROR 1:Invalid index :-1
  ERROR 1:Invalid index :-1
  ERROR 1:Invalid index :-1
  ERROR 1:Invalid index :-1
 
 I think this is where the key to your problem lies.  This message, I believe, 
 implies that the input structure does not match that expected by the driver, 
 such that it is failing to extract key control information.  The best way to 
 get 
 at the meaning of this is to locate where in the s57 driver this error is 
 generated - it may be in more than one location, however.  Given the 
 condition(s) pertaining to the error, you should be able to deduce the 
 underlying problem.  It is possible to turn the internal debug on with a 
 switch 
 to ogrinfo / ogr2ogr: that may help.
 
 Does *any* of the output look plausible?  Can you read the file successfully 
 elsewhere - I've assumed you can?
 
 One possibility relates back to configure: has this identified the byte order 
 correctly?
 
 I do not think these errors are going to relate to runtime environment 
 variables, but it is possible for environment variables to override 
 parameters 
 to configure - I often forget to unset ORACLE_HOME, for example, which wreaks 
 havoc with accessing the include files and then wonder why it refuses to 
 include 
 the Oracle driver.  I do not know quite how this operates in Windows - I use 
 Cygwin for my GDAL work there and have to be as careful as on Solaris.
 
 
 Best wishes,
 
 Peter
 
  //...a lot as the same as above
  Layer name: DSID
  ...
  Layer name:Point
  .
  Layer name:Line
  ..
  
  While the ogrinfo in FWTools ,the result is as follows:
  Layer name: DSID
  ...
  Layer name: ACHARE
  ...
  Layer name: BCNLAT
  ...
  
  Then, I'd like to know what else I should do when I build GDAL in a default 
  way:
  cd 
  ./configure
  ./make
  ./sudo make install
  What I do else until now is just set GDAL_DATA environment variable and 
  OGR_S57_OPTIONS. And I use GDAL1.7.2 release version.
  
  Best regards,
  Randy
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  From: Peter J Halls [mailto:p.ha...@york.ac.uk] 
  Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 4:54 PM
  To: randy
  Subject: [!! SPAM] Re: [gdal-dev] problem on function OGR_FD_GetName
  
  Randy,
  
  I've not worked with your platforms but, extrapolating from my 
  Solaris(Sparc) environment ...
  
  GDAL uses Environment Variables as an alternative to the configure 
  script 
  parameter list.  I'm old fashioned here and prefer the parameter list, as I 
  find 
  it easier to debug.  Having said that, these control things like the 
  compiler to 
  use and the additional libraries to configure: I do not think any of these 
  are 
  likely to affect the way OGR_FD_GetName works.  Are you using the same 
  hardware 
  environment with different operating systems?  Has Configure correctly 
  determined the hardware environment?  You can work through Config.status 
  and 
  Config.log to check this - if the two GDAL environments are supposed to be 
  the 
  same, can you diff these as a quick way of finding any differences?
  
  There are also a few Environment Variables involved at runtime eg PATH, 
  LD_LIBRARY_PATH, ORACLE_HOME, TNS_ADMIN, and so on.  The last two control 
  the 
  Oracle interface; the first two affect loading a program at runtime.  If 
  any of 
  these are wrong, I would not expect execution to start or get as far as you 
  have.  On that basis, I think it unlikely that you have an Environment 
  variable 
  problem.
  
  I presume that you are reading the same file on each platform?  The 
  'new' 
  results you are reporting look to me as though the data definition is being 
  reported instead of the feature name: could it be that you are effectively 
  reading alternate lines?  Do you have a problem prior to calling 
  OGR_FD_GetName 
  that may be reading the next entry in the dataset to fulfil the input 
  request 
  and thus giving the impression of the incorrect feature name?  This could 
  come 
  back to the GDAL Configure results, prior to building GDAL.  [Did you 
  transfer 
  the GDAL source directory from one platform to the other?  If so, did you 
  run a 
  'make clean' before building GDAL on the second, problematic platform?  It 
  is 
  possible for bits of an old configuration to 

Re: [gdal-dev] Proper parameters for GDALBeginAsyncReader() for RGB images

2010-06-17 Thread Frank Warmerdam
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Zermeno, Robert J CIV NAVAIR,
472100D robert.zerm...@navy.mil wrote:

 GDALBeginAsyncReader(fileDataset,
        0, 0,                           //Start at top-left position
        ImageWidth, ImageHeight,        //Note, I am requesting whole image.
        JPIP_Buffer,
        BufferXSize,
        BufferYSize,
        GDT_Byte,
        colorScheme,
        Bandmap,
        0,
        0,
        0,
        0);


 Under the hood, how does the function take the original image size and scale 
 it down to fit
 Into the a size much smaller than original? For some reason, when I do this 
 for RGB color
 Images, it gives a AccessViolation error when it calls 
 GDALARGetNextUpdatedRegion().  However,
 For Grayscale images, it works fine.  What would you think might be the 
 problem?

Robert,

Your call parameters seem fine.  I do not understand
why you are having problems.  If you are unable to get it
to work, feel free to file a ticket with a small compilable
code example demonstrating the problem, and setup to
access a public server or data source.

You asked how does the function take the original
image and scale it down to fit in a much smaller image.
I'm not sure if you are looking for internal details or just
whether you are requesting this properly from the outside.
If you need details about the internals I can try to provide.

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Re: [gdal-dev] GDAL Speed Optimization

2010-06-17 Thread Stefano Moratto
Frank,
I have increased the cache as you suggested using GDALSetCacheMax
and it produced a performance gain. Thanks.

I think I can improve more acting on the virtual datataset that I use to
adapt the image to the paper size.
I have to look into the tms driver in order to understand how it download
the tiles to compose the final image.

Stefano

On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Frank Warmerdam warmer...@pobox.comwrote:

 Stefano Moratto wrote:

 Frank,
The source images are  a sequence of tiles from openstreetmaps.
 Every tiles has a fixed size (256 x 256) and the area they covers depends
 from the zoom level.
 It is explained very well in
 http://www.maptiler.org/google-maps-coordinates-tile-bounds-projection.

 I use interpolation (via a virtual dataset)  because my window size and
 the paper size are not a multiple of 256 x 256.
 I use reprojection because I've to mix this raster datasource with a
 vector datasource that has a different projection. Reprojecting my vector
 data to openstreet projection do not affect the performance.

 So I think the key factor is the resizing ( I use bilinear
 interpolation) and the size of the bitmap that may cause paging.

 ...

  Can you suggest some other parameters?


 Stefano,

 Sorry, I wasn't able to learn much more skimming the code and
 referenced web page.  Have you tried the cache size setting
 I suggested?


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Re: [gdal-dev] Re: ESRI file geodatabase support

2010-06-17 Thread Eric Wolf
Matt's chicken-and-egg point seems dead-on. Except that Jack Dangermond
abhors a vacuum and ESRI has been focused on higher-order issues than file
formats. They are trying to provide topological constraints in the database
(or file) and things like geometric networks (which are really just a set of
topologically consistent linear features). The good ol' Shapefile doesn't
even come close to cutting the mustard. ArcSDE imposes these on other RDBMS.
The Personal Geodatabases did it in MDBs. And the File Geodatabase does it
without dependency on Microsoft Jet.

Another way to look at the open spec issue (which echoes ESRIs sentiment) is
that it's rather easy to screw up topology constraints. As Peter mentioned,
SDE sometimes doesn't like Oracle tables created by GDAL. The format of the
tables may be fine - but the topological relations may not be right. I'm
betting ESRI created File Geodatabase mainly to get away from the Personal
Geodatabase because it was too easy to muck with the MDB in Access and screw
up the higher order relationships.

File Geodatabases, like Shapefiles and Personal Geodatabases, are intended
as a means to exchange data. You export your data from ArcSDE into one of
these formats and give it to someone to use. Shapefiles are stripped of
topology. Personal Geodatabases only really work on platforms Microsoft
supports. File Geodatabases are the next logical step.

SpatialLite seems like a really strong contender. How do we get ESRI to play
along?

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On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:21 AM, Peter J Halls p.ha...@york.ac.uk wrote:

 Another way to achieve interoperability is via a DBMS for which there is an
 SDE implementation, although this may not be appropriate for Matt Wilkie's
 requirements.  It may not be always as easy as with shapefiles but it does
 not have the limitations.  Having said that, in our Oracle environment I do
 have a problem getting SDE to recognise some spatial datasets created with
 GDAL but have yet to prove what is happening to cause this and so cannot
 point a finger of blame in any direction ...

 Best wishes,

 Peter


 Duarte Carreira wrote:

 Matt, the only reason I have seen presented for some reluctance in pushing
 spatialite as a de facto standard following shapefile's success, is not
 having a foothold in the closed source sector. That's the only thing ESRI's
 fgdb could potentially offer, since the extra data types supported will not
 be available outside ESRI's software (Terrain, Topology, Networks, etc.).

 (As for interoperability with ESRI, its users can always export to
 shapefile. Ofcourse I would prefer to directly read fgdb data but if not
 possible it's ok too.)

 So the question is: is it true that for a new universal spatial format
 to be born it has to have at least read support in the closed source world?

 Duarte


 -Mensagem original-
 De: Matt Wilkie [mailto:map...@gmail.com]
 Enviada: terça-feira, 15 de Junho de 2010 22:52
 Para: gdal-dev@lists.osgeo.org
 Assunto: [gdal-dev] Re: ESRI file geodatabase support


 I think discussing a shapefile successor, or even perhaps a code sprint,
 is a
 very good topic for FOSS4G. This same thread that we're weaving now is/has
 happened on a number mailing lists and usually generated dozens of
 responses
 each time. The interest is clear. From my vantage the germinating seed
 crystal could be spatialite, but there seems to be some general reluctance
 to jump on board. I'm ignorant of the reasons for that, perhaps that will
 come out at FOSS4G; wish I could be there!

 Ivan: I personally welcome and will use a gdal/ogr that uses the currently
 installed arcgis libraries however for the health of the industry I'd like
 to see unencumbered access. Thanks for letting me know at least part of my
 ramblings are of interest

 cheers,

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[gdal-dev] Problem with pixel/line coordinates

2010-06-17 Thread Alexander Bruy
Hi,

I use next code to translate real coordinates (lat/lon) to the pixel/line
coordinates

def mapToPixel( mX, mY, geoTransform ):
  if geoTransform[ 2 ] + geoTransform[ 4 ] == 0:
pX = ( mX - geoTransform[ 0 ] ) / geoTransform[ 1 ]
pY = ( mY - geoTransform[ 3 ] ) / geoTransform[ 5 ]
  else:
pX, pY = applyGeoTransform( mX, mY, invertGeoTransform( geoTransform ) )
  return int( pX + 0.5 ), int( pY + 0.5 )

def pixelToMap( pX, pY, geoTransform ):
  mX, mY = applyGeoTransform( pX, pY, geoTransform )
  return mX, mY

def applyGeoTransform( inX, inY, geoTransform ):
  outX = geoTransform[ 0 ] + inX * geoTransform[ 1 ] + inY * geoTransform[ 2 ]
  outY = geoTransform[ 3 ] + inX * geoTransform[ 4 ] + inY * geoTransform[ 5 ]
  return outX, outY

def invertGeoTransform( geoTransform ):
  det = geoTransform[ 1 ] * geoTransform[ 5 ] - geoTransform[ 2 ] * 
geoTransform[ 4 ]

  if abs( det )  0.001:
return

  invDet = 1.0 / det

  # compute adjoint and divide by determinate
  outGeoTransform = [ 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 ]
  outGeoTransform[ 1 ] = geoTransform[ 5 ] * invDet
  outGeoTransform[ 4 ] = -geoTransform[ 4 ] * invDet

  outGeoTransform[ 2 ] = -geoTransform[ 2 ] * invDet
  outGeoTransfrom[ 5 ] = geoTransform[ 1 ] * invDet

  outGeoTransform[ 0 ] = ( geoTransform[ 2 ] * geoTransform[ 3 ] - 
geoTransform[ 0 ] * geoTransform[ 5 ] ) * invDet
  outGeoTransform[ 3 ] = ( -geoTransform[ 1 ] * geoTransform[ 3 ] + 
geoTransform[ 0 ] * geoTransform[ 4 ] ) * invDet

  return outGeoTransform

When I test it on large raster (in AIG/Arc/Info Binary Grid format)
I get next problem: raster value in some points reported by script
is differ from value reported by Info tool in QGIS and/or ArcGIS.
But for another points reported raster value is correct.

As I understand, when point is near pixel border, MapToPixel function
return wrong result - row and column of neighbour pixel. For example,
if point is near right side of the pixel I get column and row for right 
neighbour pixel not for pixel I need. Same problem when point is near
top side of pixel, I get colunm and row for top neighbour pixel.

Is it possible to get correct result for all points? May be there is a
mistake in code. Any help and suggestions are welcome.

I can upload sample data if necessary but they are large (~330 Mb)

I'm use GDAL 1.6.3 with Python 2.5.2 under Linux.

Thanks!

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Re: [gdal-dev] Problem with pixel/line coordinates

2010-06-17 Thread Frank Warmerdam
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Alexander Bruy
alexander.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I use next code to translate real coordinates (lat/lon) to the pixel/line
 coordinates

 def mapToPixel( mX, mY, geoTransform ):
  if geoTransform[ 2 ] + geoTransform[ 4 ] == 0:
    pX = ( mX - geoTransform[ 0 ] ) / geoTransform[ 1 ]
    pY = ( mY - geoTransform[ 3 ] ) / geoTransform[ 5 ]
  else:
    pX, pY = applyGeoTransform( mX, mY, invertGeoTransform( geoTransform ) )
  return int( pX + 0.5 ), int( pY + 0.5 )

Alexander,

I believe the addition of 0.5 in the above is incorrect.  In the
simple, non-rotated case, all values from geoTransform[0]
to geoTransform[0] + geoTransform[1] would be on the 1st
pixel (ie. pX = 0).  As you have coded it, when you are half
way across the pixel you are switching into the next one.

Keep in mind that (geoTransform[0],geoTransform[3])
is the top left corner of the top left pixel - not the center.

 def pixelToMap( pX, pY, geoTransform ):
  mX, mY = applyGeoTransform( pX, pY, geoTransform )
  return mX, mY

Conversely, here if pX and pY are coming in as integer
rather than floating point values, then you will likely want
to add half a pixel before transforming so that you get
the geoeferenced location of the center of the pixel rather
than the upper left corner.

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[gdal-dev] How to represent multi-dimensional array

2010-06-17 Thread Christopher Barker

Hi folks,

I have a dataset that is a 4-dimensional array of values: time,x,y,z

We're currently using netcdf to store it, which is well suited to this 
kind of data.


However, we also need to get it into a GIS (Arc in this case), and I'm 
trying to find a good way to do that.


Both Arc and gdalinfo do strange things if I simply point them at the 
netcdf file. GDAL seems to (arbitrarily?) see it as a 9064 band data 
set, so it is taking particular slice (I think I'm getting a bunch of 
(time, z) 2-d bands.


Anyway, I suspect that if I re-arrange the axis in the netcdf file, I 
might get something more reasonable, but my question is:


What is a good format to ex[press this to a GIS system?

I'm imaging multiple files, maybe geo-tiff, but how to I express time 
and elevation in a way that is natural to GIS?


thanks for your thoughts,

-Chris


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RE: [gdal-dev] Re: ESRI file geodatabase support

2010-06-17 Thread Duarte Carreira
Well, if SpatiaLite offers some proper benefits and disseminates through all 
of the FOSS world, then it may get a strong enough push even for ESRI to pick 
it up. It happened before... (kml?)

If SL would:


1)  Be as fast as shapefile in production settings, desktop and webgis

2)  Offer SQL support, spatial and otherwise, also through desktop tools 
like QGIS

3)  Allow editing while serving (even if for 1 editor only)

4)  Better support in QGIS than for shapefile (take advantage of Spatial 
SQL, all other functionality)

5)  Same for MapServer, GeoServer, gvSIG, et al.

6)  Allow easy managing of rasters inside the .db file, through QGIS

7)  ??more ideas/requests??

Then it would be a very, very good contender... and the ball would be kicked to 
the other side.
And it seems we're already there for some of the listed features.
Duarte

De: Eric Wolf [mailto:ebw...@gmail.com]
Enviada: quinta-feira, 17 de Junho de 2010 17:33
Para: Peter J Halls
Cc: gdal-dev@lists.osgeo.org; Matt Wilkie
Assunto: Re: [gdal-dev] Re: ESRI file geodatabase support

Matt's chicken-and-egg point seems dead-on. Except that Jack Dangermond abhors 
a vacuum and ESRI has been focused on higher-order issues than file formats. 
They are trying to provide topological constraints in the database (or file) 
and things like geometric networks (which are really just a set of 
topologically consistent linear features). The good ol' Shapefile doesn't even 
come close to cutting the mustard. ArcSDE imposes these on other RDBMS. The 
Personal Geodatabases did it in MDBs. And the File Geodatabase does it without 
dependency on Microsoft Jet.

Another way to look at the open spec issue (which echoes ESRIs sentiment) is 
that it's rather easy to screw up topology constraints. As Peter mentioned, SDE 
sometimes doesn't like Oracle tables created by GDAL. The format of the tables 
may be fine - but the topological relations may not be right. I'm betting ESRI 
created File Geodatabase mainly to get away from the Personal Geodatabase 
because it was too easy to muck with the MDB in Access and screw up the higher 
order relationships.

File Geodatabases, like Shapefiles and Personal Geodatabases, are intended as a 
means to exchange data. You export your data from ArcSDE into one of these 
formats and give it to someone to use. Shapefiles are stripped of topology. 
Personal Geodatabases only really work on platforms Microsoft supports. File 
Geodatabases are the next logical step.

SpatialLite seems like a really strong contender. How do we get ESRI to play 
along?

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USGS Geographer
Center of Excellence in GIScience
PhD Student
CU-Boulder - Geography

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On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:21 AM, Peter J Halls 
p.ha...@york.ac.ukmailto:p.ha...@york.ac.uk wrote:
Another way to achieve interoperability is via a DBMS for which there is an SDE 
implementation, although this may not be appropriate for Matt Wilkie's 
requirements.  It may not be always as easy as with shapefiles but it does not 
have the limitations.  Having said that, in our Oracle environment I do have a 
problem getting SDE to recognise some spatial datasets created with GDAL but 
have yet to prove what is happening to cause this and so cannot point a finger 
of blame in any direction ...

Best wishes,

Peter


Duarte Carreira wrote:
Matt, the only reason I have seen presented for some reluctance in pushing 
spatialite as a de facto standard following shapefile's success, is not having 
a foothold in the closed source sector. That's the only thing ESRI's fgdb could 
potentially offer, since the extra data types supported will not be available 
outside ESRI's software (Terrain, Topology, Networks, etc.).

(As for interoperability with ESRI, its users can always export to shapefile. 
Ofcourse I would prefer to directly read fgdb data but if not possible it's ok 
too.)

So the question is: is it true that for a new universal spatial format to be 
born it has to have at least read support in the closed source world?

Duarte


-Mensagem original-
De: Matt Wilkie [mailto:map...@gmail.commailto:map...@gmail.com]
Enviada: terça-feira, 15 de Junho de 2010 22:52
Para: gdal-dev@lists.osgeo.orgmailto:gdal-dev@lists.osgeo.org
Assunto: [gdal-dev] Re: ESRI file geodatabase support


I think discussing a shapefile successor, or even perhaps a code sprint, is a
very good topic for FOSS4G. This same thread that we're weaving now is/has
happened on a number mailing lists and usually generated dozens of responses
each time. The interest is clear. From my vantage the germinating seed
crystal could be spatialite, but there seems to be some general reluctance
to jump on board. I'm ignorant of the reasons for that, perhaps that will
come out at FOSS4G; wish I could be there!

Ivan: I personally welcome and will use a gdal/ogr that 

RE: [gdal-dev] Re: ESRI file geodatabase support

2010-06-17 Thread Ragi Burhum

 From: Duarte Carreira dcarre...@edia.pt
 Subject: RE: [gdal-dev] Re: ESRI file geodatabase support
 To: Eric Wolf ebw...@gmail.com, Peter J Halls p.ha...@york.ac.uk
 Cc: gdal-dev@lists.osgeo.org gdal-dev@lists.osgeo.org,  Matt
 Wilkie
map...@gmail.com

 Well, if SpatiaLite offers some proper benefits and disseminates through
 all of the FOSS world, then it may get a strong enough push even for ESRI to
 pick it up. It happened before... (kml?)

 If SL would:


 1)  Be as fast as shapefile in production settings, desktop and webgis

 2)  Offer SQL support, spatial and otherwise, also through desktop
 tools like QGIS

 3)  Allow editing while serving (even if for 1 editor only)

 4)  Better support in QGIS than for shapefile (take advantage of
 Spatial SQL, all other functionality)

 5)  Same for MapServer, GeoServer, gvSIG, et al.

 6)  Allow easy managing of rasters inside the .db file, through QGIS

 7)  ??more ideas/requests??

 Then it would be a very, very good contender... and the ball would be
 kicked to the other side.
 And it seems we're already there for some of the listed features.
 Duarte


Or even better, instead of waiting and complaining, we could just write a
GeoDatabase OGR (ESRI) Workspace ourselves.

There are already examples of working ones out there

http://svn.obtusesoft.com/core/trunk/

So instead of hoping and pleading for support, someone should just sit down
and write it.

I started one at one point (C++), got side tracked with other things. If
anyone is interested in that source code, I would be happy to share that
too.

- Ragi
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Re: [gdal-dev] How to represent multi-dimensional array

2010-06-17 Thread Michael Sumner
I don't think there is a GIS that does this in a natural way - all you
can do is read in multiple slices. If the order of your axes really is
time, x, y, z then you will have y.n * z.n  (time, x) slices (as
bands) when read by GDAL - NetCDF will tend to store dimensions in
reverse order to the natural one, and I think GDAL reverses that - but
you can tell by the dimension and number of your bands, and the named
metadata on the GDAL bands.

Later versions of ArcGIS allow time-sliced arrays I think, so you
could store several of these.

NetCDF cannot store multi-attribute arrays (it will store several
same-size, same-metadata arrays for that purpose), so one thing you
could do is allow the GIS to to store several multi-band arrays (an
array for each T, a band for each Z)  - but you need to wear the
inconsistency of mixing attributes with dimensions.

Manifold reads in multiple rasters and I presume ArcGIS does too.

Eonfusion will do its best to read the array in its natural state, but
it is interpreted through GDAL and the dimensions reconstructed from
the band metadata, but it's not a traditional GIS in any sense.

R can read NetCDF natively or with GDAL (RNetCDF, ncdf, rgdal
packages) and convert to the Spatial classes, but these are limited to
multi-band 2D arrays.

Cheers, Mike.

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 5:15 AM, Christopher Barker
chris.bar...@noaa.gov wrote:
 Hi folks,

 I have a dataset that is a 4-dimensional array of values: time,x,y,z

 We're currently using netcdf to store it, which is well suited to this kind
 of data.

 However, we also need to get it into a GIS (Arc in this case), and I'm
 trying to find a good way to do that.

 Both Arc and gdalinfo do strange things if I simply point them at the netcdf
 file. GDAL seems to (arbitrarily?) see it as a 9064 band data set, so it is
 taking particular slice (I think I'm getting a bunch of (time, z) 2-d bands.

 Anyway, I suspect that if I re-arrange the axis in the netcdf file, I might
 get something more reasonable, but my question is:

 What is a good format to ex[press this to a GIS system?

 I'm imaging multiple files, maybe geo-tiff, but how to I express time and
 elevation in a way that is natural to GIS?

 thanks for your thoughts,

 -Chris


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Re: [gdal-dev] How to represent multi-dimensional array

2010-06-17 Thread Joaquim Luis
Don't know if this is what you are looking for but if those netCDF files 
are of a similar type that one can get from the poet site 
(http://poet.jpl.nasa.gov/), Mirone has a tool called Aquamoto (a tool 
original developed to show time stamps of a tsunami propagation models) 
that loads those files and show their content interactively with the 
help of a slider.


Joaquim


Hi folks,

I have a dataset that is a 4-dimensional array of values: time,x,y,z

We're currently using netcdf to store it, which is well suited to this 
kind of data.


However, we also need to get it into a GIS (Arc in this case), and I'm 
trying to find a good way to do that.


Both Arc and gdalinfo do strange things if I simply point them at the 
netcdf file. GDAL seems to (arbitrarily?) see it as a 9064 band data 
set, so it is taking particular slice (I think I'm getting a bunch of 
(time, z) 2-d bands.


Anyway, I suspect that if I re-arrange the axis in the netcdf file, I 
might get something more reasonable, but my question is:


What is a good format to ex[press this to a GIS system?

I'm imaging multiple files, maybe geo-tiff, but how to I express time 
and elevation in a way that is natural to GIS?


thanks for your thoughts,

-Chris




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Re: [gdal-dev] How to represent multi-dimensional array

2010-06-17 Thread Lucena, Ivan

Chris,

Christopher Barker wrote:

Hi folks,

I have a dataset that is a 4-dimensional array of values: time,x,y,z

We're currently using netcdf to store it, which is well suited to this 
kind of data.


However, we also need to get it into a GIS (Arc in this case), and I'm 
trying to find a good way to do that.


Both Arc and gdalinfo do strange things if I simply point them at the 
netcdf file. GDAL seems to (arbitrarily?) see it as a 9064 band data 
set, so it is taking particular slice (I think I'm getting a bunch of 
(time, z) 2-d bands.


You might take a look a Idrisi (www.clarklabs.org). It imports netCDF using a GUI where you can 
choose the orders of the dimensions to read from. There is a set of tools to perform time series 
analysis.


Anyway, I suspect that if I re-arrange the axis in the netcdf file, I 
might get something more reasonable, but my question is:


What is a good format to ex[press this to a GIS system?

I'm imaging multiple files, maybe geo-tiff, but how to I express time 
and elevation in a way that is natural to GIS?


You might be forced to use multiple files just because that is how generally image processing tools 
work better. Then you could write scripts to loop trough the bands files with those tools.


Although some operations on the time dimension could work much faster in a multi-band, pixel 
interleaving storage mode. Like you said, netCDF are well suited for that kind of processing. I am 
afraid that the tools are not, yet.



thanks for your thoughts,

-Chris


Regards,

Ivan

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