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2015-06-15 Thread Even Rouault
Hi,

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[gdal-dev] GDALWarp on a specific overview of a dataset

2015-06-15 Thread Thomas Sevaldrud
Hi,

I am having a bit of trouble with warping a dataset (an ECW file) with
multiple overviews. The base file is huge, so I am selecting the overview
that matches closest to my output resolution and makes an in-memory VRT of
this, consisting of the overview bands of the original image.

This seems to only work for some overview levels, and not for others. I get
results that appear to be made from the correct sets of colors basically,
but way out of scale and postion. Some times it seems to work nicely
though, so I suspect that there is some memory overwriting issue or
something here.

This is the part of the code that builds the overview VRT. The input
dataset is _ds, an

// Create a VRT of the closest matching overlay
GDALDriver *vrtDriver = (GDALDriver *) GDALGetDriverByName( VRT );

vrtDS = vrtDriver-Create(, ovrW, ovrH, _numBands, _dataType, NULL);
GDALSetProjection(vrtDS, _srcProjectionWKT.c_str());

   ouble geoTransform[6]; _ds-GetGeoTransform(geoTransform); double
basePixelSizeX = geoTransform[XFM_PIXEL_SIZE_EW]; double basePixelSizeY =
geoTransform[XFM_PIXEL_SIZE_NS];

geoTransform[XFM_PIXEL_SIZE_EW] = scaleX*basePixelSizeX;
geoTransform[XFM_PIXEL_SIZE_NS] = scaleY*basePixelSizeY;
vrtDS-SetGeoTransform(geoTransform);

for(int i = 1; i = _numBands; i++)
{
GDALRasterBand* srcRootBand = _ds-GetRasterBand(i);
GDALRasterBand* srcBand = srcRootBand-GetOverview(overviewId);
VRTSourcedRasterBand* vrtBand =
(VRTSourcedRasterBand*)vrtDS-GetRasterBand(i);
vrtBand-AddSimpleSource(srcBand);
}
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Re: [gdal-dev] GDALWarp on a specific overview of a dataset

2015-06-15 Thread Even Rouault
Thomas,

2 suggestions to help narrowing down the issue :
- try gdalwarp of GDAL 2.0 that can select the most appropriate overview  
given the target resolution / raster size
- try with the ECW translated as a GeoTIFF to check if it isn't an issue with 
the ECW driver itself.

Even

 Hi,
 
 I am having a bit of trouble with warping a dataset (an ECW file) with
 multiple overviews. The base file is huge, so I am selecting the overview
 that matches closest to my output resolution and makes an in-memory VRT of
 this, consisting of the overview bands of the original image.
 
 This seems to only work for some overview levels, and not for others. I get
 results that appear to be made from the correct sets of colors basically,
 but way out of scale and postion. Some times it seems to work nicely
 though, so I suspect that there is some memory overwriting issue or
 something here.
 
 This is the part of the code that builds the overview VRT. The input
 dataset is _ds, an
 
 // Create a VRT of the closest matching overlay
 GDALDriver *vrtDriver = (GDALDriver *) GDALGetDriverByName( VRT );
 
 vrtDS = vrtDriver-Create(, ovrW, ovrH, _numBands, _dataType, NULL);
 GDALSetProjection(vrtDS, _srcProjectionWKT.c_str());
 
ouble geoTransform[6]; _ds-GetGeoTransform(geoTransform); double
 basePixelSizeX = geoTransform[XFM_PIXEL_SIZE_EW]; double basePixelSizeY =
 geoTransform[XFM_PIXEL_SIZE_NS];
 
 geoTransform[XFM_PIXEL_SIZE_EW] = scaleX*basePixelSizeX;
 geoTransform[XFM_PIXEL_SIZE_NS] = scaleY*basePixelSizeY;
 vrtDS-SetGeoTransform(geoTransform);
 
 for(int i = 1; i = _numBands; i++)
 {
 GDALRasterBand* srcRootBand = _ds-GetRasterBand(i);
 GDALRasterBand* srcBand = srcRootBand-GetOverview(overviewId);
 VRTSourcedRasterBand* vrtBand =
 (VRTSourcedRasterBand*)vrtDS-GetRasterBand(i);
 vrtBand-AddSimpleSource(srcBand);
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Re: [gdal-dev] GDALWarp on a specific overview of a dataset

2015-06-15 Thread Thomas Sevaldrud
Argh, I managed to send it while editing :-)

Anway, input to this code section is the wanted overview level and the
derived scale factors in X- and Y-direction. Output is the vrtDS dataset
that is used in the GDAL Warp api later.

Are there any obvious mistakes I've made here?

I see that in GDAL 2.0 there will be a new class for handling this, the
GDALOverviewDaset. It's a bit early for me to move to 2.0 yet, but maybe I
should just make a similar dataset type in my own project. Would that be
more efficient than going via a VRT?

- Thomas




On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Thomas Sevaldrud tho...@silentwings.no
wrote:

 Hi,

 I am having a bit of trouble with warping a dataset (an ECW file) with
 multiple overviews. The base file is huge, so I am selecting the overview
 that matches closest to my output resolution and makes an in-memory VRT of
 this, consisting of the overview bands of the original image.

 This seems to only work for some overview levels, and not for others. I
 get results that appear to be made from the correct sets of colors
 basically, but way out of scale and postion. Some times it seems to work
 nicely though, so I suspect that there is some memory overwriting issue or
 something here.

 This is the part of the code that builds the overview VRT. The input
 dataset is _ds, an

 // Create a VRT of the closest matching overlay
 GDALDriver *vrtDriver = (GDALDriver *) GDALGetDriverByName( VRT );

 vrtDS = vrtDriver-Create(, ovrW, ovrH, _numBands, _dataType, NULL);
 GDALSetProjection(vrtDS, _srcProjectionWKT.c_str());

ouble geoTransform[6]; _ds-GetGeoTransform(geoTransform); double
 basePixelSizeX = geoTransform[XFM_PIXEL_SIZE_EW]; double basePixelSizeY =
 geoTransform[XFM_PIXEL_SIZE_NS];

 geoTransform[XFM_PIXEL_SIZE_EW] = scaleX*basePixelSizeX;
 geoTransform[XFM_PIXEL_SIZE_NS] = scaleY*basePixelSizeY;
 vrtDS-SetGeoTransform(geoTransform);

 for(int i = 1; i = _numBands; i++)
 {
 GDALRasterBand* srcRootBand = _ds-GetRasterBand(i);
 GDALRasterBand* srcBand = srcRootBand-GetOverview(overviewId);
 VRTSourcedRasterBand* vrtBand =
 (VRTSourcedRasterBand*)vrtDS-GetRasterBand(i);
 vrtBand-AddSimpleSource(srcBand);
 }


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Re: [gdal-dev] GDALWarp on a specific overview of a dataset

2015-06-15 Thread Thomas Sevaldrud
When using the same image in GeoTIFF with overviews, it works correctly,
which may indicate something with the ECW drivers. I suppose it must be
something triggered by something weird I'm doing though, or else I would
think that other people would have the same problem.

The weird thing is that if I simply add an extra band to the VRT it works
with ECW as well... This extra band is never used for anything and has no
source, but with it, I get the correct image.

I can't switch to GDAL 2.0 yet, but I'll try to isolate the code from the
GDALOverviewDataset class and use that instead of the VRT approach, and see
if that makes any difference.

- Thomas


On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:19 PM, Even Rouault even.roua...@spatialys.com
wrote:

 Thomas,

 2 suggestions to help narrowing down the issue :
 - try gdalwarp of GDAL 2.0 that can select the most appropriate overview
 given the target resolution / raster size
 - try with the ECW translated as a GeoTIFF to check if it isn't an issue
 with
 the ECW driver itself.

 Even

  Hi,
 
  I am having a bit of trouble with warping a dataset (an ECW file) with
  multiple overviews. The base file is huge, so I am selecting the overview
  that matches closest to my output resolution and makes an in-memory VRT
 of
  this, consisting of the overview bands of the original image.
 
  This seems to only work for some overview levels, and not for others. I
 get
  results that appear to be made from the correct sets of colors basically,
  but way out of scale and postion. Some times it seems to work nicely
  though, so I suspect that there is some memory overwriting issue or
  something here.
 
  This is the part of the code that builds the overview VRT. The input
  dataset is _ds, an
 
  // Create a VRT of the closest matching overlay
  GDALDriver *vrtDriver = (GDALDriver *) GDALGetDriverByName( VRT );
 
  vrtDS = vrtDriver-Create(, ovrW, ovrH, _numBands, _dataType, NULL);
  GDALSetProjection(vrtDS, _srcProjectionWKT.c_str());
 
 ouble geoTransform[6]; _ds-GetGeoTransform(geoTransform); double
  basePixelSizeX = geoTransform[XFM_PIXEL_SIZE_EW]; double basePixelSizeY =
  geoTransform[XFM_PIXEL_SIZE_NS];
 
  geoTransform[XFM_PIXEL_SIZE_EW] = scaleX*basePixelSizeX;
  geoTransform[XFM_PIXEL_SIZE_NS] = scaleY*basePixelSizeY;
  vrtDS-SetGeoTransform(geoTransform);
 
  for(int i = 1; i = _numBands; i++)
  {
  GDALRasterBand* srcRootBand = _ds-GetRasterBand(i);
  GDALRasterBand* srcBand = srcRootBand-GetOverview(overviewId);
  VRTSourcedRasterBand* vrtBand =
  (VRTSourcedRasterBand*)vrtDS-GetRasterBand(i);
  vrtBand-AddSimpleSource(srcBand);
  }

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Re: [gdal-dev] GDALWarp on a specific overview of a dataset

2015-06-15 Thread Even Rouault
Le lundi 15 juin 2015 15:51:37, Thomas Sevaldrud a écrit :
 When using the same image in GeoTIFF with overviews, it works correctly,
 which may indicate something with the ECW drivers. I suppose it must be
 something triggered by something weird I'm doing though, or else I would
 think that other people would have the same problem.

It is sometimes surprising that some bugs remain unreported for long!

 
 The weird thing is that if I simply add an extra band to the VRT it works
 with ECW as well... This extra band is never used for anything and has no
 source, but with it, I get the correct image.

Interesting. My guess is that you must hit 
https://trac.osgeo.org/gdal/ticket/5954

 
 I can't switch to GDAL 2.0 yet, but I'll try to isolate the code from the
 GDALOverviewDataset class and use that instead of the VRT approach, and see
 if that makes any difference.

Latest code from 1.11 branch has the fix for the above ticket.

 
 - Thomas
 
 
 On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:19 PM, Even Rouault even.roua...@spatialys.com
 
 wrote:
  Thomas,
  
  2 suggestions to help narrowing down the issue :
  - try gdalwarp of GDAL 2.0 that can select the most appropriate overview
  given the target resolution / raster size
  - try with the ECW translated as a GeoTIFF to check if it isn't an issue
  with
  the ECW driver itself.
  
  Even
  
   Hi,
   
   I am having a bit of trouble with warping a dataset (an ECW file) with
   multiple overviews. The base file is huge, so I am selecting the
   overview that matches closest to my output resolution and makes an
   in-memory VRT
  
  of
  
   this, consisting of the overview bands of the original image.
   
   This seems to only work for some overview levels, and not for others. I
  
  get
  
   results that appear to be made from the correct sets of colors
   basically, but way out of scale and postion. Some times it seems to
   work nicely though, so I suspect that there is some memory overwriting
   issue or something here.
   
   This is the part of the code that builds the overview VRT. The input
   dataset is _ds, an
   
   // Create a VRT of the closest matching overlay
   GDALDriver *vrtDriver = (GDALDriver *) GDALGetDriverByName( VRT );
   
   vrtDS = vrtDriver-Create(, ovrW, ovrH, _numBands, _dataType, NULL);
   GDALSetProjection(vrtDS, _srcProjectionWKT.c_str());
   
  ouble geoTransform[6]; _ds-GetGeoTransform(geoTransform); double
   
   basePixelSizeX = geoTransform[XFM_PIXEL_SIZE_EW]; double basePixelSizeY
   = geoTransform[XFM_PIXEL_SIZE_NS];
   
   geoTransform[XFM_PIXEL_SIZE_EW] = scaleX*basePixelSizeX;
   geoTransform[XFM_PIXEL_SIZE_NS] = scaleY*basePixelSizeY;
   vrtDS-SetGeoTransform(geoTransform);
   
   for(int i = 1; i = _numBands; i++)
   {
   GDALRasterBand* srcRootBand = _ds-GetRasterBand(i);
   GDALRasterBand* srcBand = srcRootBand-GetOverview(overviewId);
   VRTSourcedRasterBand* vrtBand =
   (VRTSourcedRasterBand*)vrtDS-GetRasterBand(i);
   vrtBand-AddSimpleSource(srcBand);
   }
  
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Re: [gdal-dev] GDALWarp on a specific overview of a dataset

2015-06-15 Thread Thomas Sevaldrud
Ah, great! That fixed it :-)

Is there an official 1.11.3 release in the works? It's a bit of hassle for
me to integrate it into our build system here, so if there's a new official
version out soon I probably won't bother to integrate the current snapshot.

Thanks so much for your help, Even!

- Thomas

On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 4:06 PM, Even Rouault even.roua...@spatialys.com
wrote:

 Le lundi 15 juin 2015 15:51:37, Thomas Sevaldrud a écrit :
  When using the same image in GeoTIFF with overviews, it works correctly,
  which may indicate something with the ECW drivers. I suppose it must be
  something triggered by something weird I'm doing though, or else I would
  think that other people would have the same problem.

 It is sometimes surprising that some bugs remain unreported for long!

 
  The weird thing is that if I simply add an extra band to the VRT it works
  with ECW as well... This extra band is never used for anything and has no
  source, but with it, I get the correct image.

 Interesting. My guess is that you must hit
 https://trac.osgeo.org/gdal/ticket/5954

 
  I can't switch to GDAL 2.0 yet, but I'll try to isolate the code from the
  GDALOverviewDataset class and use that instead of the VRT approach, and
 see
  if that makes any difference.

 Latest code from 1.11 branch has the fix for the above ticket.

 
  - Thomas
 
 
  On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:19 PM, Even Rouault 
 even.roua...@spatialys.com
 
  wrote:
   Thomas,
  
   2 suggestions to help narrowing down the issue :
   - try gdalwarp of GDAL 2.0 that can select the most appropriate
 overview
   given the target resolution / raster size
   - try with the ECW translated as a GeoTIFF to check if it isn't an
 issue
   with
   the ECW driver itself.
  
   Even
  
Hi,
   
I am having a bit of trouble with warping a dataset (an ECW file)
 with
multiple overviews. The base file is huge, so I am selecting the
overview that matches closest to my output resolution and makes an
in-memory VRT
  
   of
  
this, consisting of the overview bands of the original image.
   
This seems to only work for some overview levels, and not for
 others. I
  
   get
  
results that appear to be made from the correct sets of colors
basically, but way out of scale and postion. Some times it seems to
work nicely though, so I suspect that there is some memory
 overwriting
issue or something here.
   
This is the part of the code that builds the overview VRT. The input
dataset is _ds, an
   
// Create a VRT of the closest matching overlay
GDALDriver *vrtDriver = (GDALDriver *) GDALGetDriverByName( VRT );
   
vrtDS = vrtDriver-Create(, ovrW, ovrH, _numBands, _dataType,
 NULL);
GDALSetProjection(vrtDS, _srcProjectionWKT.c_str());
   
   ouble geoTransform[6]; _ds-GetGeoTransform(geoTransform); double
   
basePixelSizeX = geoTransform[XFM_PIXEL_SIZE_EW]; double
 basePixelSizeY
= geoTransform[XFM_PIXEL_SIZE_NS];
   
geoTransform[XFM_PIXEL_SIZE_EW] = scaleX*basePixelSizeX;
geoTransform[XFM_PIXEL_SIZE_NS] = scaleY*basePixelSizeY;
vrtDS-SetGeoTransform(geoTransform);
   
for(int i = 1; i = _numBands; i++)
{
GDALRasterBand* srcRootBand = _ds-GetRasterBand(i);
GDALRasterBand* srcBand = srcRootBand-GetOverview(overviewId);
VRTSourcedRasterBand* vrtBand =
(VRTSourcedRasterBand*)vrtDS-GetRasterBand(i);
vrtBand-AddSimpleSource(srcBand);
}
  
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Re: [gdal-dev] Call for discussion on RFC 26: GDAL Block Cache Improvements

2015-06-15 Thread Even Rouault
I'll call soon on a vote on this if nobody has remarks.

Le jeudi 04 juin 2015 16:05:00, Even Rouault a écrit :
 Hi,
 
 I've updated an old RFC initiated by Tamas. The main idea, having a hashset
 based implementation as an alternative to the array based, remains. Changes
 consist mainly in code restructuration, perf improvements to reduce lock
 contention and porting to the state of the latest code base.
 
 This is a RFC for GDAL 2.1
 
 Details at https://trac.osgeo.org/gdal/wiki/rfc26_blockcache
 
 == Summary and rationale ==
 
 GDAL maintains an in-memory cache for the raster blocks fetched from the
 drivers and ensures that the second attempt to access the same block will
 be served from the cache instead of the driver. This cache is maintained
 in a per-band fashion and an array is allocated for the pointers for each
 blocks (or sub-blocks). This approach is not sufficient with large raster
 dimensions (or large virtual rasters ie. with the WMS/TMS driver), which
 may cause out of memory errors in GDALRasterBand::InitBlockInfo, as raised
 in #3224
 
 For example, a band of a dataset at level 21 with a GoogleMaps tiling
 requires 2097152x2097152 tiles of 256x256 pixels. This means that GDAL
 will try to allocate an array of 32768x32768 = 1 billion elements (32768 =
 2097152 / 64). The size of this array is 4 GB on a 32-bit build, so it
 cannot be allocated at all. And it is 8 GB on a 64-bit build (even if this
 is generally only virtual memory reservation but not actually allocation
 of physical pages of memory, due to over-commit mechanism of the operating
 system). At dataset closing, this means that those 1 billion cells will
 have to be explored to discover remaining cached blocks. In reality, all
 above figures must be multiplied by 3 for a RGB (or 4 for a RGBA) dataset.
 
 In the hash set implementation, memory allocation depends directly on the
 number of cached blocks. Typically with the default GDAL_CACHEMAX size of
 40 MB, only 640 blocks of 256x256 pixels can be simultaneously cached (for
 all datasets).
 
 Best regards,
 
 Even

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[gdal-dev] gdalwarp on a separate RPC model

2015-06-15 Thread Yi Dong

Dear List,

I have a question about recitify satellite images that has RPC camera 
using gdalwarp.  I know gdalwarp can be used for this task, with using 
RPC metadata (either packed inside the NITF or stored inside RPB files)

Normally, the image folder shall contain following files
input.ntf
input.rpb
input.imd
etc...
The command I used for this is
gdalwarp -rpc input.ntf -to RPC_HEIGHT=200 rectified.tif

Now I performed some geo-correction on the satellite image and generate 
a corrected RPC model (with imporved offset values) and I store this 
correct RPC camera in 'correct.rpb'.  Now I am trying to use this 
'correct.rpb' to recitify the image

I tried
gdalwarp -rpc input.ntf correct.rpb -to RPC_HEIGHT=200 
recitify_corrected.tif

but it failed with following error
ERROR 4: 'correct.rpb' not recognized as a supported file format

Then I tried to overwrite the 'input.rpb' in the image folder with my 
'corrected.rpb', run 'gdalwarp -rpc input.ntf -to RPC_HEIGHT=200 
rectified.tif' again but I got exactly same results as I used the 
original RPC model.  I guess that might be because gdalwarp used RPC 
parameter that was packed inside NITF image itself, instead of getting 
them from rpb files ?


So Is there other way to use my corrected RPC model in gdal, like 
gdalwarp, gdal_transform, etc.?
Also, gdaltransform doesn't not accept RPB files either.  It only 
recognizes GDAL dataset, i.e. vrt file.  Therefore I need to generate 
vrt file from my RPB.  Is there any vrt example for RPC camera that I 
can follow?


Thanks a lot
Ian

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Re: [gdal-dev] gdalwarp on a separate RPC model

2015-06-15 Thread Dmitry Baryshnikov

Hi Yi,

GDAL use the RPC which it report by gdalinfo. If gdalinfo reports old 
RPC, you have to clean them from dataset. It seem's to me that rpb 
(*_rpc.txt, etc.) files accepted only on GeoTIFF and TILL formats. On 
GDAL 2.0 also jp2 added. So NITF is not a right format for use external 
RPC. So, first of all try to gdal_translate you format to GTiff, and 
than try to create so-name rpb file.


Best regards,
Dmitry

15.06.2015 21:18, Yi Dong пишет:

Dear List,

I have a question about recitify satellite images that has RPC camera 
using gdalwarp.  I know gdalwarp can be used for this task, with using 
RPC metadata (either packed inside the NITF or stored inside RPB files)

Normally, the image folder shall contain following files
input.ntf
input.rpb
input.imd
etc...
The command I used for this is
gdalwarp -rpc input.ntf -to RPC_HEIGHT=200 rectified.tif

Now I performed some geo-correction on the satellite image and 
generate a corrected RPC model (with imporved offset values) and I 
store this correct RPC camera in 'correct.rpb'.  Now I am trying to 
use this 'correct.rpb' to recitify the image

I tried
gdalwarp -rpc input.ntf correct.rpb -to RPC_HEIGHT=200 
recitify_corrected.tif

but it failed with following error
ERROR 4: 'correct.rpb' not recognized as a supported file format

Then I tried to overwrite the 'input.rpb' in the image folder with my 
'corrected.rpb', run 'gdalwarp -rpc input.ntf -to RPC_HEIGHT=200 
rectified.tif' again but I got exactly same results as I used the 
original RPC model.  I guess that might be because gdalwarp used RPC 
parameter that was packed inside NITF image itself, instead of getting 
them from rpb files ?


So Is there other way to use my corrected RPC model in gdal, like 
gdalwarp, gdal_transform, etc.?
Also, gdaltransform doesn't not accept RPB files either.  It only 
recognizes GDAL dataset, i.e. vrt file.  Therefore I need to generate 
vrt file from my RPB.  Is there any vrt example for RPC camera that I 
can follow?


Thanks a lot
Ian

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Re: [gdal-dev] Gdal-Grid lidar.

2015-06-15 Thread Nicolas Cadieux
Thanks Even,
One last question about the buffer. Is 2GB is the max buffer size for 
gdal_grid? If I select that, am I likely to run into problem with some values?  
Apart from trial and error, is there a balance that should be stuck between 
available computer memory (currently at 64GB), input file size and the buffer 
or can I simply select a 2GB buffer?

Merci beaucoup pour votre aide.

Nicolas Cadieux M.Sc.
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8548, rue Saint-Denis Montréal H2P 2H2
Téléphone: 514.381.5112  Fax: 514.381.4995
www.archeotec.ca

On Jun 12, 2015 17:29, Even Rouault even.roua...@spatialys.com wrote:

 Le vendredi 12 juin 2015 23:18:26, Nicolas Cadieux a écrit : 
  Hi Even, 
  Thank you very much.  I increased the buffer to 1.5 GB 
  (512+512+514)*1024*1024 and I can now work much much faster with 
  gdal_grid. 
  
  Does gdal_fillnodata have the same type of variable that could speed things 
  up?  It is also slow and does not seem speeded up by the All_CPUS. 

 No, no tunable for fillnodata, and it doesn't support multi-threaded 
 parallelization. 

  
  I will use warp and the raster calculator in the future so you have more 
  magic up your sleeve, I would appreciate it. 
  
  Cheers and thanks again. 
  
  Nicolas Cadieux M.Sc. 
  Les Entreprises Archéotec inc. 
  8548, rue Saint-Denis Montréal H2P 2H2 
  Téléphone: 514.381.5112  Fax: 514.381.4995 
  www.archeotec.ca 
  
  On Jun 5, 2015 19:13, Even Rouault even.roua...@spatialys.com wrote: 
   Le samedi 06 juin 2015 00:18:45, Nicolas Cadieux a écrit : 
Hi, 
I have been using gdal_grid to interpolate LiDAR data for some time 
now. This would be a typical command: 

gdal_grid -l P0344_sol2004_XYZI_MTM8_CGVD28_150529 -txe 348733.0 
401135.0 -tye 5568587.0 5773796.0 -a 
nearest:radius1=3.0:radius2=3.0:angle=0.0:nodata=0.0 -outsize 52402.0 
205209.0 -of GTiff 
H:/Nicolas/pytemp/OutPut\P0344_sol2004_XYZI_MTM8_CGVD28_150529.vrt 
H:/Nicolas/pytemp/OutPut\P0344_sol2004_XYZI_MTM8_CGVD28_150529.tif 
--confi g GDAL_NUM_THREADS ALL_CPUS 

As you can see, this is a huge raster and the csv. file (Pointed with a 
.vrt) contains over a billion points.  I am trying to do this in one 
shot to avoid boundary effects.  (I know I can split this .csv file 
into smaller bits and make this more efficient).   The computer I am 
using has 12 cores, 64BG of memory (smaller than the csv file) and a 
1TB pcie solid state drive.  It should manage the task but it has been 
running for 5 days with less than 10% done).  I have access to a super 
computer with gdal if all else fails. 

This is my question.  The --config GDAL_NUM_THREADS ALL_CPUS or 
--config GDAL_NUM_THREADS 12 does not seem to work with the nearest 
neighbor algorithm. (It seem to work with the -a count command)  If I 
use this on a smaller data set, I see no difference in speed or cpu 
usage between using the ALL_CPUS or not using this switch.  Is this 
a bug or simply a limitation of the nearest neighbor algorithm? 
   
   Nicolas, 
   
   The threading mechanism is generic for all algorithms . Add --debug on 
   and you should see traces like GDAL_GRID: Using 12 threads. Now, a 
   reason for it not being efficient is that the work buffer used by 
   gdalgrid (16 MB) is too small w.r.t to nearest speed. Hum, actually 
   looking more closely at the code, I see that the quad tree to index the 
   points will be rebuilt for each work buffer. This is likely the main 
   cause of the inefficiency and why you don't see measurable differences 
   between non threaded or threaded computations (since the building of the 
   quadtree is not multithreaded). If you compiled from source, you could 
   try changing the const GUInt32 nDesiredBufferSize = 16*1024*1024; line 
   in apps/gdal_grid.cpp to a much higher value. A more proper solution 
   would be to avoid rebuilding the quad tree for each work buffer. This is 
   mainly code restructuring. 
   
   An alternative to gdal_grid would be to use gdal_rasterize + 
   gdal_fillnodata. This is usually much much faster, so you could try to 
   check if it gives the results you expect. 
   
   You could also try scipy : 
   http://docs.scipy.org/doc/scipy-0.14.0/reference/generated/scipy.interpol 
   ate.griddata.html#scipy.interpolate.griddata Not sure how it behaves with 
   that number of points. 
   
   Even 
   
I don't want to move this 
to a super computer if it will not multi-thread properly. 

Thanks, 
Nicolas Cadieux 

(Gdal1.11.2 downloaded with OSGEO4W 64bit install with QGIS 2.8 on 
windows 7_64)  I use GDAL from the command line not from QGIS. 


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Re: [gdal-dev] gdalwarp on a separate RPC model

2015-06-15 Thread Even Rouault
Le lundi 15 juin 2015 20:18:02, Yi Dong a écrit :
 Dear List,
 
 I have a question about recitify satellite images that has RPC camera
 using gdalwarp.  I know gdalwarp can be used for this task, with using
 RPC metadata (either packed inside the NITF or stored inside RPB files)
 Normally, the image folder shall contain following files
 input.ntf
 input.rpb
 input.imd
 etc...
 The command I used for this is
 gdalwarp -rpc input.ntf -to RPC_HEIGHT=200 rectified.tif
 
 Now I performed some geo-correction on the satellite image and generate
 a corrected RPC model (with imporved offset values) and I store this
 correct RPC camera in 'correct.rpb'.  Now I am trying to use this
 'correct.rpb' to recitify the image
 I tried
 gdalwarp -rpc input.ntf correct.rpb -to RPC_HEIGHT=200
 recitify_corrected.tif
 but it failed with following error
 ERROR 4: 'correct.rpb' not recognized as a supported file format
 
 Then I tried to overwrite the 'input.rpb' in the image folder with my
 'corrected.rpb', run 'gdalwarp -rpc input.ntf -to RPC_HEIGHT=200
 rectified.tif' again but I got exactly same results as I used the
 original RPC model.  I guess that might be because gdalwarp used RPC
 parameter that was packed inside NITF image itself, instead of getting
 them from rpb files ?
 
 So Is there other way to use my corrected RPC model in gdal, like
 gdalwarp, gdal_transform, etc.?
 Also, gdaltransform doesn't not accept RPB files either.  It only
 recognizes GDAL dataset, i.e. vrt file.  Therefore I need to generate
 vrt file from my RPB.  Is there any vrt example for RPC camera that I
 can follow?

Ian,

I'd suggesting gdal_translate'ing your input.ntf into a VRT, and replace the 
values in the VRT metadata domain with your own values. Then you can run 
gdalwarp on this VRT file

Even

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Re: [gdal-dev] Gdal-Grid lidar.

2015-06-15 Thread Matt Hanson
Hi Nicolas,

I see someone already posted something about lidar2dems.   We also wanted
to use only open-source, so put together this project to easily be able to
make DEMs using what's out there already.
The documentation gives an overview of what it can do and a tutorial for
processing a large area.

http://applied-geosolutions.github.io/lidar2dems/

I'd like to add multiprocessing support, as it processes in pieces as it
is, so wouldn't take much more work to split it up over processors.

-matt


On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 3:00 PM, Nicolas Cadieux 
nicolas.cadi...@archeotec.ca wrote:

 Thanks Even,
 One last question about the buffer. Is 2GB is the max buffer size for
 gdal_grid? If I select that, am I likely to run into problem with some
 values?  Apart from trial and error, is there a balance that should be
 stuck between available computer memory (currently at 64GB), input file
 size and the buffer or can I simply select a 2GB buffer?

 Merci beaucoup pour votre aide.

 Nicolas Cadieux M.Sc.
 Les Entreprises Archéotec inc.
 8548, rue Saint-Denis Montréal H2P 2H2
 Téléphone: 514.381.5112  Fax: 514.381.4995
 www.archeotec.ca

 On Jun 12, 2015 17:29, Even Rouault even.roua...@spatialys.com wrote:
 
  Le vendredi 12 juin 2015 23:18:26, Nicolas Cadieux a écrit :
   Hi Even,
   Thank you very much.  I increased the buffer to 1.5 GB
   (512+512+514)*1024*1024 and I can now work much much faster with
   gdal_grid.
  
   Does gdal_fillnodata have the same type of variable that could speed
 things
   up?  It is also slow and does not seem speeded up by the All_CPUS.
 
  No, no tunable for fillnodata, and it doesn't support multi-threaded
  parallelization.
 
  
   I will use warp and the raster calculator in the future so you have
 more
   magic up your sleeve, I would appreciate it.
  
   Cheers and thanks again.
  
   Nicolas Cadieux M.Sc.
   Les Entreprises Archéotec inc.
   8548, rue Saint-Denis Montréal H2P 2H2
   Téléphone: 514.381.5112  Fax: 514.381.4995
   www.archeotec.ca
  
   On Jun 5, 2015 19:13, Even Rouault even.roua...@spatialys.com wrote:
Le samedi 06 juin 2015 00:18:45, Nicolas Cadieux a écrit :
 Hi,
 I have been using gdal_grid to interpolate LiDAR data for some time
 now. This would be a typical command:

 gdal_grid -l P0344_sol2004_XYZI_MTM8_CGVD28_150529 -txe 348733.0
 401135.0 -tye 5568587.0 5773796.0 -a
 nearest:radius1=3.0:radius2=3.0:angle=0.0:nodata=0.0 -outsize
 52402.0
 205209.0 -of GTiff
 H:/Nicolas/pytemp/OutPut\P0344_sol2004_XYZI_MTM8_CGVD28_150529.vrt
 H:/Nicolas/pytemp/OutPut\P0344_sol2004_XYZI_MTM8_CGVD28_150529.tif
 --confi g GDAL_NUM_THREADS ALL_CPUS

 As you can see, this is a huge raster and the csv. file (Pointed
 with a
 .vrt) contains over a billion points.  I am trying to do this in
 one
 shot to avoid boundary effects.  (I know I can split this .csv file
 into smaller bits and make this more efficient).   The computer I
 am
 using has 12 cores, 64BG of memory (smaller than the csv file) and
 a
 1TB pcie solid state drive.  It should manage the task but it has
 been
 running for 5 days with less than 10% done).  I have access to a
 super
 computer with gdal if all else fails.

 This is my question.  The --config GDAL_NUM_THREADS ALL_CPUS or
 --config GDAL_NUM_THREADS 12 does not seem to work with the
 nearest
 neighbor algorithm. (It seem to work with the -a count command)
 If I
 use this on a smaller data set, I see no difference in speed or cpu
 usage between using the ALL_CPUS or not using this switch.  Is
 this
 a bug or simply a limitation of the nearest neighbor algorithm?
   
Nicolas,
   
The threading mechanism is generic for all algorithms . Add --debug
 on
and you should see traces like GDAL_GRID: Using 12 threads. Now, a
reason for it not being efficient is that the work buffer used by
gdalgrid (16 MB) is too small w.r.t to nearest speed. Hum, actually
looking more closely at the code, I see that the quad tree to index
 the
points will be rebuilt for each work buffer. This is likely the main
cause of the inefficiency and why you don't see measurable
 differences
between non threaded or threaded computations (since the building of
 the
quadtree is not multithreaded). If you compiled from source, you
 could
try changing the const GUInt32 nDesiredBufferSize = 16*1024*1024;
 line
in apps/gdal_grid.cpp to a much higher value. A more proper solution
would be to avoid rebuilding the quad tree for each work buffer.
 This is
mainly code restructuring.
   
An alternative to gdal_grid would be to use gdal_rasterize +
gdal_fillnodata. This is usually much much faster, so you could try
 to
check if it gives the results you expect.
   
You could also try scipy :
   
 http://docs.scipy.org/doc/scipy-0.14.0/reference/generated/scipy.interpol
ate.griddata.html#scipy.interpolate.griddata Not 

Re: [gdal-dev] gdalwarp on a separate RPC model

2015-06-15 Thread Yi Dong

Hi Evan,

Thanks a lot!   Your suggestion is exactly what I am looking for. To 
keep the record, here is what I did

1. gdal_translate -of VRT input.ntf input.vrt
2. modify the 'input.vrt' w.r.t. correct RPC model, name it as 
'input_correct.vrt'

3. gdalwarp -rpc -to RPC_HEIGHT=200 input_correct.vrt output.tif
4. gdaltransform input_correct.vrt for projection
5. gdaltransform -i input_correct.vrt for backprojection

Thanks everyone again for help
Ian

On 6/15/2015 2:55 PM, Even Rouault wrote:

Le lundi 15 juin 2015 20:18:02, Yi Dong a écrit :

Dear List,

I have a question about recitify satellite images that has RPC camera
using gdalwarp.  I know gdalwarp can be used for this task, with using
RPC metadata (either packed inside the NITF or stored inside RPB files)
Normally, the image folder shall contain following files
input.ntf
input.rpb
input.imd
etc...
The command I used for this is
gdalwarp -rpc input.ntf -to RPC_HEIGHT=200 rectified.tif

Now I performed some geo-correction on the satellite image and generate
a corrected RPC model (with imporved offset values) and I store this
correct RPC camera in 'correct.rpb'.  Now I am trying to use this
'correct.rpb' to recitify the image
I tried
gdalwarp -rpc input.ntf correct.rpb -to RPC_HEIGHT=200
recitify_corrected.tif
but it failed with following error
ERROR 4: 'correct.rpb' not recognized as a supported file format

Then I tried to overwrite the 'input.rpb' in the image folder with my
'corrected.rpb', run 'gdalwarp -rpc input.ntf -to RPC_HEIGHT=200
rectified.tif' again but I got exactly same results as I used the
original RPC model.  I guess that might be because gdalwarp used RPC
parameter that was packed inside NITF image itself, instead of getting
them from rpb files ?

So Is there other way to use my corrected RPC model in gdal, like
gdalwarp, gdal_transform, etc.?
Also, gdaltransform doesn't not accept RPB files either.  It only
recognizes GDAL dataset, i.e. vrt file.  Therefore I need to generate
vrt file from my RPB.  Is there any vrt example for RPC camera that I
can follow?

Ian,

I'd suggesting gdal_translate'ing your input.ntf into a VRT, and replace the
values in the VRT metadata domain with your own values. Then you can run
gdalwarp on this VRT file

Even



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Re: [gdal-dev] Gdal-Grid lidar.

2015-06-15 Thread Even Rouault
Le lundi 15 juin 2015 21:00:15, Nicolas Cadieux a écrit :
 Thanks Even,
 One last question about the buffer. Is 2GB is the max buffer size for
 gdal_grid? If I select that, am I likely to run into problem with some
 values? 

The variable is a uint32 so you could probably go up to 4 GB.

 Apart from trial and error, is there a balance that should be
 stuck between available computer memory (currently at 64GB), input file
 size and the buffer or can I simply select a 2GB buffer?

As you're exploring new territories, I'd expect you to report how this works 
;-)

 
 Merci beaucoup pour votre aide.
 
 Nicolas Cadieux M.Sc.
 Les Entreprises Archéotec inc. 
 8548, rue Saint-Denis Montréal H2P 2H2
 Téléphone: 514.381.5112  Fax: 514.381.4995
 www.archeotec.ca
 
 On Jun 12, 2015 17:29, Even Rouault even.roua...@spatialys.com wrote:
  Le vendredi 12 juin 2015 23:18:26, Nicolas Cadieux a écrit :
   Hi Even,
   Thank you very much.  I increased the buffer to 1.5 GB
   (512+512+514)*1024*1024 and I can now work much much faster with
   gdal_grid.
   
   Does gdal_fillnodata have the same type of variable that could speed
   things up?  It is also slow and does not seem speeded up by the
   All_CPUS.
  
  No, no tunable for fillnodata, and it doesn't support multi-threaded
  parallelization.
  
   I will use warp and the raster calculator in the future so you have
   more magic up your sleeve, I would appreciate it.
   
   Cheers and thanks again.
   
   Nicolas Cadieux M.Sc.
   Les Entreprises Archéotec inc.
   8548, rue Saint-Denis Montréal H2P 2H2
   Téléphone: 514.381.5112  Fax: 514.381.4995
   www.archeotec.ca
   
   On Jun 5, 2015 19:13, Even Rouault even.roua...@spatialys.com wrote:
Le samedi 06 juin 2015 00:18:45, Nicolas Cadieux a écrit :
 Hi,
 I have been using gdal_grid to interpolate LiDAR data for some time
 now. This would be a typical command:
 
 gdal_grid -l P0344_sol2004_XYZI_MTM8_CGVD28_150529 -txe 348733.0
 401135.0 -tye 5568587.0 5773796.0 -a
 nearest:radius1=3.0:radius2=3.0:angle=0.0:nodata=0.0 -outsize
 52402.0 205209.0 -of GTiff
 H:/Nicolas/pytemp/OutPut\P0344_sol2004_XYZI_MTM8_CGVD28_150529.vrt
 H:/Nicolas/pytemp/OutPut\P0344_sol2004_XYZI_MTM8_CGVD28_150529.tif
 --confi g GDAL_NUM_THREADS ALL_CPUS
 
 As you can see, this is a huge raster and the csv. file (Pointed
 with a .vrt) contains over a billion points.  I am trying to do
 this in one shot to avoid boundary effects.  (I know I can split
 this .csv file into smaller bits and make this more efficient).  
 The computer I am using has 12 cores, 64BG of memory (smaller than
 the csv file) and a 1TB pcie solid state drive.  It should manage
 the task but it has been running for 5 days with less than 10%
 done).  I have access to a super computer with gdal if all else
 fails.
 
 This is my question.  The --config GDAL_NUM_THREADS ALL_CPUS or
 --config GDAL_NUM_THREADS 12 does not seem to work with the
 nearest neighbor algorithm. (It seem to work with the -a count
 command)  If I use this on a smaller data set, I see no difference
 in speed or cpu usage between using the ALL_CPUS or not using
 this switch.  Is this a bug or simply a limitation of the nearest
 neighbor algorithm?

Nicolas,

The threading mechanism is generic for all algorithms . Add --debug
on and you should see traces like GDAL_GRID: Using 12 threads.
Now, a reason for it not being efficient is that the work buffer
used by gdalgrid (16 MB) is too small w.r.t to nearest speed. Hum,
actually looking more closely at the code, I see that the quad tree
to index the points will be rebuilt for each work buffer. This is
likely the main cause of the inefficiency and why you don't see
measurable differences between non threaded or threaded computations
(since the building of the quadtree is not multithreaded). If you
compiled from source, you could try changing the const GUInt32
nDesiredBufferSize = 16*1024*1024; line in apps/gdal_grid.cpp to a
much higher value. A more proper solution would be to avoid
rebuilding the quad tree for each work buffer. This is mainly code
restructuring.

An alternative to gdal_grid would be to use gdal_rasterize +
gdal_fillnodata. This is usually much much faster, so you could try
to check if it gives the results you expect.

You could also try scipy :
http://docs.scipy.org/doc/scipy-0.14.0/reference/generated/scipy.inte
rpol ate.griddata.html#scipy.interpolate.griddata Not sure how it
behaves with that number of points.

Even

 I don't want to move this
 to a super computer if it will not multi-thread properly.
 
 Thanks,
 Nicolas Cadieux
 
 (Gdal1.11.2 downloaded with OSGEO4W 64bit install with QGIS 2.8 on
 windows 7_64)  I use GDAL from the command line not from QGIS.
 
 
 Nicolas 

Re: [gdal-dev] GDAL/OGR 2.0.0 RC2 Available for Review

2015-06-15 Thread Jeff McKenna

RC2 compiles and runs on Windows.

-jeff




On 2015-06-14 4:28 PM, Even Rouault wrote:

Hi,

Due to a regression that could cause compressed GeoTIFF created by GDAL to be
almost twice as large as their optimal size in some circumstances (see
https://trac.osgeo.org/gdal/ticket/5999), I have prepared a RC2.

The list of fixes in the 2.0 branch since RC1:
   * Java GNUmakefile: add -f in rm commands (#5997)
   * Doc: Add a brief summary to the GDAL and OGR utilities pages (#5996)
   * Various typo fixes in doc and code (#5995)
   * GTiff/block cache: fix creation of pixel interleaved multiband files (2.0
regression, #5999)
   * VRT: add handling of a shared='0' attribute on SourceFilename to open
sources in non-shared mode, and VRT_SHARED_SOURCE config option that can be set
to 0 in case the shared attribute isn't there (#5992)
   * Ili: Fix crash with models using types derived from INTERLIS
   * gdal_grid: fix crash in optimized mode with GCC 4.4 on 64bit (#5987)
   * GDALSuggestedWarpOut2(): fix typo that could prevent detection of part of
the error cases for #5980
   * CPLAcquireMutex(): improve performance on Windows (#5986)

Updated source code:

   http://download.osgeo.org/gdal/2.0.0/gdal-2.0.0RC2.tar.xz
   http://download.osgeo.org/gdal/2.0.0/gdal-2.0.0RC2.tar.gz
   http://download.osgeo.org/gdal/2.0.0/gdal200RC2.zip

gdal-grass plugin unchanged:

   http://download.osgeo.org/gdal/2.0.0/gdal-grass-2.0.0RC1.tar.gz

Updated snapshot of the gdalautotest suite:

   http://download.osgeo.org/gdal/2.0.0/gdalautotest-2.0.0RC2.tar.gz
   http://download.osgeo.org/gdal/2.0.0/gdalautotest-2.0.0RC2.zip

Updated documentation:

   http://download.osgeo.org/gdal/2.0.0/gdal200docRC2.zip

I'll call for a vote promoting it to final in one day if no serious problems
are reported.

Best regards,

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Re: [gdal-dev] gdalwarp on a separate RPC model

2015-06-15 Thread Nikos Alexandris
* Yi Dong yidon...@gmail.com [2015-06-15 14:18:02 -0400]:

 Dear List,
 
 I have a question about recitify satellite images that has RPC camera 
 using gdalwarp.  I know gdalwarp can be used for this task, with using 
 RPC metadata (either packed inside the NITF or stored inside RPB files)
 Normally, the image folder shall contain following files
 input.ntf
 input.rpb
 input.imd
 etc...
 The command I used for this is
 gdalwarp -rpc input.ntf -to RPC_HEIGHT=200 rectified.tif
 
 Now I performed some geo-correction on the satellite image and generate 
 a corrected RPC model (with imporved offset values)


Deat Ian, may I ask how you generated the corrected RPCs after the
geometric (I guess) correction(s)?

Thank you, Nikos


 and I store this 
 correct RPC camera in 'correct.rpb'.  Now I am trying to use this 
 'correct.rpb' to recitify the image
 I tried
 gdalwarp -rpc input.ntf correct.rpb -to RPC_HEIGHT=200 
 recitify_corrected.tif
 but it failed with following error
 ERROR 4: 'correct.rpb' not recognized as a supported file format
 
 Then I tried to overwrite the 'input.rpb' in the image folder with my 
 'corrected.rpb', run 'gdalwarp -rpc input.ntf -to RPC_HEIGHT=200 
 rectified.tif' again but I got exactly same results as I used the 
 original RPC model.  I guess that might be because gdalwarp used RPC 
 parameter that was packed inside NITF image itself, instead of getting 
 them from rpb files ?
 
 So Is there other way to use my corrected RPC model in gdal, like 
 gdalwarp, gdal_transform, etc.?
 Also, gdaltransform doesn't not accept RPB files either.  It only 
 recognizes GDAL dataset, i.e. vrt file.  Therefore I need to generate 
 vrt file from my RPB.  Is there any vrt example for RPC camera that I 
 can follow?
 
 Thanks a lot
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Re: [gdal-dev] Fwd: [SoC] Report 3 - Integration of GDAL Utilities into GDAL Core library

2015-06-15 Thread Rutger
Great work, really looking forward to it. If i understand it correctly this
should make working with GDAL much more robust if you are using it with
language bindings. 

For example, when using Conda (package/env manager) with GDAL and the Python
bindings. I often put the location of the GDAL utilities in my PATH, so
calling `gdalwarp` will work from anywhere. But if you make a new
environment with a different GDAL version, the PATH will still point to the
old version, and you would suddenly mix versions together if you combine the
utilities with the bindings.

Also, not everyone ships the utilities when they compile GDAL.



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Re: [gdal-dev] Overlay shapefile onto Geotiff image

2015-06-15 Thread Rutger
Graeme B. Bell wrote
 You'll need to tell it what size you want to burn. You can do that by
 looking at the extents (northeast, southwest) of your current
 raster/geotiff.

If you make a copy of the Geotiff you already have, you can provide it as
the 'destination dataset' for gdal_rasterize, it would then (of course)
automatically pick up all the output properties for you. You can then for
example first burn with value 1, and then to another pass with burn value 0
and set the '-i' flag to invert the rasterization, that way anything not
touching the lines will be set to 0, which you can later use as a nodata
value to get the transparency. 

Note that the destination dataset for gdal_rasterize gets modified 'in
place', so especially when experimenting make sure you always have a
copy/backup.



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