Re: [gdal-dev] FGDB Opening Sample File

2011-04-29 Thread Ragi Burhum
There seems to be some misunderstandings about Relationship Classes,
so I may as well explain.

Relationship Classes come in two types

1.- Simple Relationship Classes
2.- Attributed Relationship Classes

Conceptually, they just relate one (or more) column(s) in one field to
another column(s) in another table. Besides also including cardinality
information, and enforcing referential integrity (when the underlying
db doesn't support it), they are used inside ArcGIS for display and
editing purposes. The fact that the may or may not have domains
associated with them is orthogonal to this discussion.

For the first kind (simple), they only exist in metadata tables - they
don't map to any physical tables on the db and thus should not be
mapped to anything inside OGR.

For the second kind (attributed), they do refer to actual non-spatial
tables on the db - we could map those to a non-spatial OGR table.

So bug #1 is skip simple relationship classes and enhancement #2 is
map attributed relationship classes to OGR non-spatial tables.

As far as TestData.gdb, none of the ESRI samples use it and just
calling open through the FileGDB API on it, fails, so it is corrupted
or a bug in the FileGDB beta 3 API - nothing that we can do about
that. The error returned, -2147467259 is E_FAIL (like you diagnosed
earlier Paul), and it is the most generic kind of COM Error... most of
the ESRI code relies on custom COM errors, but every once in awhile,
those errors are not propagated down the stack and the fall back when
no custom error is detected is E_FAIL. So basically, it just means
error - that is all I can tell you sorry.

- Ragi


 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 18:21:50 -0500
 From: Marius Jigmond mariusjigm...@hotmail.com
 Subject: Re: [gdal-dev] FGDB Opening Sample File
 To: Paul Ramsey pram...@opengeo.org
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 They are links between tables. Usually, between the attribute table of a
 feature class and a simple (non-spatial, as Mike said) table. But you
 can relate any kind of attribute tables.

 -marius

 On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 14:30 -0700, Paul Ramsey wrote:
 Are they tables or links between tables?  I can see this is going to
 be a hard project to do without ArcGIS handy :)

 P.

 On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Smith, Michael ERDC-CRREL-NH
 michael.sm...@usace.army.mil wrote:
  Relations are joins to non-spatial tables containing domain values etc. 
  They
  are relational tables.
 
  Mike
 
 
  --
  Michael Smith
  Remote Sensing/GIS Center
  US Army Corps of Engineers
 
 
 
  On 4/28/11 1:19 PM, Even Rouault even.roua...@mines-paris.org wrote:
 
  Le jeudi 28 avril 2011 02:11:30, Paul Ramsey a écrit :
 
  I assume the failures are relationships we don't handle yet (or ever
  and will need to be silenced).
 
 
  Not sure what those relations things are.
 
  There is a test file in the FGDB API itself, and it fails to open
  entirely, which seems odd,
 
  [pramsey@localhost data]$ ogrinfo ./TestData.gdb
  ERROR 1: GDB Error: Failed to open Geodatabase long:-2147467259
  ERROR 1: GDB Error: Failed to open Geodatabase long:-2147467259
  FAILURE:
  Unable to open datasource `./TestData.gdb' with the following drivers.
 
  Do other folks have trouble opening the ESRI sample file? The error
  code doesn't make much sense, it is supposed to mean If the path is
  seriously in error, say pointing to the wrong drive, a -2147467259
  (E_FAIL) error is returned and relates to the CreateGeodatabase
  method, not the OpenGeodatabase method.
 
  Yes I did notice that issue too. I assume either the example is corrupted,
  either it is a bug in the FileGDB API, either... Perhaps reporting to ESRI
  might be usefull. Or perhaps Ragi has some clues.
 
  Even
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Re: [gdal-dev] FGDB Opening Sample File

2011-04-29 Thread Smith, Michael ERDC-CRREL-NH
Paul,

They are tables and the links between them (as far as I can tell).

See 
http://help.arcgis.com/en/arcgisdesktop/10.0/help/index.html#/Relationship_c
lass_properties/004t000400/

Mike


-- 
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Remote Sensing/GIS Center
US Army Corps of Engineers


On 4/28/11 5:30 PM, Paul Ramsey pram...@opengeo.org wrote:

 Are they tables or links between tables?  I can see this is going to
 be a hard project to do without ArcGIS handy :)
 
 P.
 
 On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Smith, Michael ERDC-CRREL-NH
 michael.sm...@usace.army.mil wrote:
 Relations are joins to non-spatial tables containing domain values etc. They
 are relational tables.
 
 Mike
 
 
 --
 Michael Smith
 Remote Sensing/GIS Center
 US Army Corps of Engineers
 
 
 
 On 4/28/11 1:19 PM, Even Rouault even.roua...@mines-paris.org wrote:
 
 Le jeudi 28 avril 2011 02:11:30, Paul Ramsey a écrit :
 
 I assume the failures are relationships we don't handle yet (or ever
 and will need to be silenced).
 
 
 Not sure what those relations things are.
 
 There is a test file in the FGDB API itself, and it fails to open
 entirely, which seems odd,
 
 [pramsey@localhost data]$ ogrinfo ./TestData.gdb
 ERROR 1: GDB Error: Failed to open Geodatabase long:-2147467259
 ERROR 1: GDB Error: Failed to open Geodatabase long:-2147467259
 FAILURE:
 Unable to open datasource `./TestData.gdb' with the following drivers.
 
 Do other folks have trouble opening the ESRI sample file? The error
 code doesn't make much sense, it is supposed to mean If the path is
 seriously in error, say pointing to the wrong drive, a -2147467259
 (E_FAIL) error is returned and relates to the CreateGeodatabase
 method, not the OpenGeodatabase method.
 
 Yes I did notice that issue too. I assume either the example is corrupted,
 either it is a bug in the FileGDB API, either... Perhaps reporting to ESRI
 might be usefull. Or perhaps Ragi has some clues.
 
 Even
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Re: [gdal-dev] FGDB Opening Sample File

2011-04-28 Thread Even Rouault
Le jeudi 28 avril 2011 02:11:30, Paul Ramsey a écrit :
 
 I assume the failures are relationships we don't handle yet (or ever
 and will need to be silenced).
 

Not sure what those relations things are.

 There is a test file in the FGDB API itself, and it fails to open
 entirely, which seems odd,
 
 [pramsey@localhost data]$ ogrinfo ./TestData.gdb
 ERROR 1: GDB Error: Failed to open Geodatabase long:-2147467259
 ERROR 1: GDB Error: Failed to open Geodatabase long:-2147467259
 FAILURE:
 Unable to open datasource `./TestData.gdb' with the following drivers.
 
 Do other folks have trouble opening the ESRI sample file? The error
 code doesn't make much sense, it is supposed to mean If the path is
 seriously in error, say pointing to the wrong drive, a -2147467259
 (E_FAIL) error is returned and relates to the CreateGeodatabase
 method, not the OpenGeodatabase method.

Yes I did notice that issue too. I assume either the example is corrupted, 
either it is a bug in the FileGDB API, either... Perhaps reporting to ESRI 
might be usefull. Or perhaps Ragi has some clues.

Even
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Re: [gdal-dev] FGDB Opening Sample File

2011-04-28 Thread Smith, Michael ERDC-CRREL-NH
Relations are joins to non-spatial tables containing domain values etc. They
are relational tables.

Mike


-- 
Michael Smith
Remote Sensing/GIS Center
US Army Corps of Engineers



On 4/28/11 1:19 PM, Even Rouault even.roua...@mines-paris.org wrote:

 Le jeudi 28 avril 2011 02:11:30, Paul Ramsey a écrit :
 
 I assume the failures are relationships we don't handle yet (or ever
 and will need to be silenced).
 
 
 Not sure what those relations things are.
 
 There is a test file in the FGDB API itself, and it fails to open
 entirely, which seems odd,
 
 [pramsey@localhost data]$ ogrinfo ./TestData.gdb
 ERROR 1: GDB Error: Failed to open Geodatabase long:-2147467259
 ERROR 1: GDB Error: Failed to open Geodatabase long:-2147467259
 FAILURE:
 Unable to open datasource `./TestData.gdb' with the following drivers.
 
 Do other folks have trouble opening the ESRI sample file? The error
 code doesn't make much sense, it is supposed to mean If the path is
 seriously in error, say pointing to the wrong drive, a -2147467259
 (E_FAIL) error is returned and relates to the CreateGeodatabase
 method, not the OpenGeodatabase method.
 
 Yes I did notice that issue too. I assume either the example is corrupted,
 either it is a bug in the FileGDB API, either... Perhaps reporting to ESRI
 might be usefull. Or perhaps Ragi has some clues.
 
 Even
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Re: [gdal-dev] FGDB Opening Sample File

2011-04-28 Thread Paul Ramsey
Are they tables or links between tables?  I can see this is going to
be a hard project to do without ArcGIS handy :)

P.

On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Smith, Michael ERDC-CRREL-NH
michael.sm...@usace.army.mil wrote:
 Relations are joins to non-spatial tables containing domain values etc. They
 are relational tables.

 Mike


 --
 Michael Smith
 Remote Sensing/GIS Center
 US Army Corps of Engineers



 On 4/28/11 1:19 PM, Even Rouault even.roua...@mines-paris.org wrote:

 Le jeudi 28 avril 2011 02:11:30, Paul Ramsey a écrit :

 I assume the failures are relationships we don't handle yet (or ever
 and will need to be silenced).


 Not sure what those relations things are.

 There is a test file in the FGDB API itself, and it fails to open
 entirely, which seems odd,

 [pramsey@localhost data]$ ogrinfo ./TestData.gdb
 ERROR 1: GDB Error: Failed to open Geodatabase long:-2147467259
 ERROR 1: GDB Error: Failed to open Geodatabase long:-2147467259
 FAILURE:
 Unable to open datasource `./TestData.gdb' with the following drivers.

 Do other folks have trouble opening the ESRI sample file? The error
 code doesn't make much sense, it is supposed to mean If the path is
 seriously in error, say pointing to the wrong drive, a -2147467259
 (E_FAIL) error is returned and relates to the CreateGeodatabase
 method, not the OpenGeodatabase method.

 Yes I did notice that issue too. I assume either the example is corrupted,
 either it is a bug in the FileGDB API, either... Perhaps reporting to ESRI
 might be usefull. Or perhaps Ragi has some clues.

 Even
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RE: [gdal-dev] FGDB Opening Sample File

2011-04-28 Thread Jason Roberts
FWIW, the error code -2147467259 is probably a Microsoft HRESULT. In hex, it
is 0x80004005, which is a generic access is denied error. Not that this is
much of a clue about what is going on. You could check for some kind of
permissions or access problem...

Jason

-Original Message-
From: gdal-dev-boun...@lists.osgeo.org
[mailto:gdal-dev-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Paul Ramsey
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 5:31 PM
To: Smith, Michael ERDC-CRREL-NH
Cc: gdal-dev@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [gdal-dev] FGDB Opening Sample File

Are they tables or links between tables?  I can see this is going to
be a hard project to do without ArcGIS handy :)

P.

On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Smith, Michael ERDC-CRREL-NH
michael.sm...@usace.army.mil wrote:
 Relations are joins to non-spatial tables containing domain values etc.
They
 are relational tables.

 Mike


 --
 Michael Smith
 Remote Sensing/GIS Center
 US Army Corps of Engineers



 On 4/28/11 1:19 PM, Even Rouault even.roua...@mines-paris.org wrote:

 Le jeudi 28 avril 2011 02:11:30, Paul Ramsey a écrit :

 I assume the failures are relationships we don't handle yet (or ever
 and will need to be silenced).


 Not sure what those relations things are.

 There is a test file in the FGDB API itself, and it fails to open
 entirely, which seems odd,

 [pramsey@localhost data]$ ogrinfo ./TestData.gdb
 ERROR 1: GDB Error: Failed to open Geodatabase long:-2147467259
 ERROR 1: GDB Error: Failed to open Geodatabase long:-2147467259
 FAILURE:
 Unable to open datasource `./TestData.gdb' with the following drivers.

 Do other folks have trouble opening the ESRI sample file? The error
 code doesn't make much sense, it is supposed to mean If the path is
 seriously in error, say pointing to the wrong drive, a -2147467259
 (E_FAIL) error is returned and relates to the CreateGeodatabase
 method, not the OpenGeodatabase method.

 Yes I did notice that issue too. I assume either the example is
corrupted,
 either it is a bug in the FileGDB API, either... Perhaps reporting to
ESRI
 might be usefull. Or perhaps Ragi has some clues.

 Even
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Re: [gdal-dev] FGDB Opening Sample File

2011-04-28 Thread Marius Jigmond
They are links between tables. Usually, between the attribute table of a
feature class and a simple (non-spatial, as Mike said) table. But you
can relate any kind of attribute tables.

-marius

On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 14:30 -0700, Paul Ramsey wrote:
 Are they tables or links between tables?  I can see this is going to
 be a hard project to do without ArcGIS handy :)
 
 P.
 
 On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Smith, Michael ERDC-CRREL-NH
 michael.sm...@usace.army.mil wrote:
  Relations are joins to non-spatial tables containing domain values etc. They
  are relational tables.
 
  Mike
 
 
  --
  Michael Smith
  Remote Sensing/GIS Center
  US Army Corps of Engineers
 
 
 
  On 4/28/11 1:19 PM, Even Rouault even.roua...@mines-paris.org wrote:
 
  Le jeudi 28 avril 2011 02:11:30, Paul Ramsey a écrit :
 
  I assume the failures are relationships we don't handle yet (or ever
  and will need to be silenced).
 
 
  Not sure what those relations things are.
 
  There is a test file in the FGDB API itself, and it fails to open
  entirely, which seems odd,
 
  [pramsey@localhost data]$ ogrinfo ./TestData.gdb
  ERROR 1: GDB Error: Failed to open Geodatabase long:-2147467259
  ERROR 1: GDB Error: Failed to open Geodatabase long:-2147467259
  FAILURE:
  Unable to open datasource `./TestData.gdb' with the following drivers.
 
  Do other folks have trouble opening the ESRI sample file? The error
  code doesn't make much sense, it is supposed to mean If the path is
  seriously in error, say pointing to the wrong drive, a -2147467259
  (E_FAIL) error is returned and relates to the CreateGeodatabase
  method, not the OpenGeodatabase method.
 
  Yes I did notice that issue too. I assume either the example is corrupted,
  either it is a bug in the FileGDB API, either... Perhaps reporting to ESRI
  might be usefull. Or perhaps Ragi has some clues.
 
  Even
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