Re: [Geany-devel] Third party plugin publish and third party library bundle problem

2012-07-16 Thread Frank Lanitz
On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 23:13:55 +0800
Hong Xu  wrote:

> On 2012/7/15 15:49, Frank Lanitz wrote:
> > On Sat, 07 Jul 2012 13:39:56 +0800
> > Hong Xu  wrote:
> >
> >> Whatever the answer is, can I put my plugin in
> >>  ? This repository seems
> >> better maintained than mine.
> >
> > I didn't have a look onto you code by now but in general you can add
> > you plugin also to geany-plugins project. I'd prefer you to having
> > you own fork of plugins and sending pull request against
> > geany/geany-plguins/master
> >
> >> The second problem is that, how should I bundle a third party C
> >> library with my plugin?
> >
> > I think Matthew answered here very well. It really depends on how
> > common this library is or if you are patching it in some kind.
> > Well... I don't like shipping to much libraries with one plugin as
> > there is always an question of updates in terms of a security fault
> > etc. Also this might could cause ending up in typical Windows
> > scenario where you are might having GTK installed about 1000 times
> > - each GTK serving its own application. So: if the library is
> > typical packaged for target platforms or if its available via a
> > common way (e.g. ppa on Ubuntu, some of the rpm-pages for SuSE or
> > Fedora/RH/SL) and you don't have any patches inside I wouldn't
> > deliver it with the plugin but depend on it.
> >
> 
> Currently, the library is not commonly distributed under common 
> distributions. The library URL is: 
> https://github.com/editorconfig/editorconfig-core

Based on that I think including would be fine.  

> There's a problem here: the library build system is based on CMake, 
> while the geany-plugins project supports both autotools and waf. If I 
> want to include the source in my code, I would probably have to 
> reproduce the cmake build system using autotools. Do you have any 
> suggestions handling a CMake third party library in geany-plugins?
> And do I also need to support BOTH the two build systems?

Well please include it to autotools if ever possible. Even cmake
might have some advantages (cannot say) I don't see any chance in terms
of man power etc to have it also maintained.

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Re: [Geany-devel] Third party plugin publish and third party library bundle problem

2012-07-16 Thread Frank Lanitz
On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 16:59:12 +0200
Thomas Martitz  wrote:

> Am 16.07.2012 16:58, schrieb Thomas Martitz:
> > Am 16.07.2012 16:41, schrieb Hong Xu:
> >> On 2012/7/15 20:28, Frank Lanitz wrote:
> >>> On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:56:32 +1000
> >>> Lex Trotman  wrote:
> >>>
>  BTW you mentioned a third party library, but you didn't say what
>  library.  It would of course have to have a suitable license to
>  allow it to be included.
> >>>
> >>> Yes. I missed that too. Most plugins are GPL2+ so it needs to be
> >>> also GPL2+... BSD should also be fine in most cases. But LGPL
> >>> could be problematic.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> I prefer Simplified BSD License for this plugin. What do you mean
> >> it should be fine for "most" cases? Could you explain more?
> >
> > The 2-clause BSD is always fun. As is LGPLv2+.
> 
> s/fun/fine/ :)

Rethinking about . well, you might are correct. In terms of
distribution as we most likely will do, LPGL should also be fine.
Sorry -  my fault. 
In terms of BSD I'm thinking about some special parts e.g. calling
author's names inside credits I saw in past. But should not be
apply able on our case 

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Re: [Geany-devel] Third party plugin publish and third party library bundle problem

2012-07-16 Thread Hong Xu

On 2012/7/15 15:49, Frank Lanitz wrote:

On Sat, 07 Jul 2012 13:39:56 +0800
Hong Xu  wrote:


Whatever the answer is, can I put my plugin in
 ? This repository seems
better maintained than mine.


I didn't have a look onto you code by now but in general you can add
you plugin also to geany-plugins project. I'd prefer you to having you
own fork of plugins and sending pull request against
geany/geany-plguins/master


The second problem is that, how should I bundle a third party C
library with my plugin?


I think Matthew answered here very well. It really depends on how common
this library is or if you are patching it in some kind. Well... I don't
like shipping to much libraries with one plugin as there is always an
question of updates in terms of a security fault etc. Also this might
could cause ending up in typical Windows scenario where you are
might having GTK installed about 1000 times - each GTK serving its own
application. So: if the library is typical packaged for target
platforms or if its available via a common way (e.g. ppa on Ubuntu,
some of the rpm-pages for SuSE or Fedora/RH/SL) and you don't have any
patches inside I wouldn't deliver it with the plugin but depend on it.



Currently, the library is not commonly distributed under common 
distributions. The library URL is: 
https://github.com/editorconfig/editorconfig-core


There's a problem here: the library build system is based on CMake, 
while the geany-plugins project supports both autotools and waf. If I 
want to include the source in my code, I would probably have to 
reproduce the cmake build system using autotools. Do you have any 
suggestions handling a CMake third party library in geany-plugins? And 
do I also need to support BOTH the two build systems?


Hong
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Re: [Geany-devel] Third party plugin publish and third party library bundle problem

2012-07-16 Thread Hong Xu

On 2012/7/15 19:56, Lex Trotman wrote:

On 15 July 2012 21:03, Hong Xu  wrote:

On 07/15/2012 07:01 PM, Hong Xu wrote:


On 07/15/2012 03:40 PM, Frank Lanitz wrote:


On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 09:27:46 +0800
Hong Xu  wrote:


And, BTW, why geany-plugins project doesn't use a submodule for each
plugin? Not all people need to clone the whole repository, and as it
is separated to submodules, the permission control can be better for
developers.



IIRc this was under discussion in past but was dismissed due to adding
complexity and little overall understanding of this. However, I don't
think cloning the repository is this much traffic. Also a goal was to
have plugins and its patches being reviewed before entering master to
enforce a minimum on quality. This also includes some
fire-and-forget-plugins of some developers as you can see from
MAINTAINERS files there are a lot of plugins out of maintenance.



Thanks. However, I have to make a pull request for any trivial changes
in this way. Do you think this is unnecessary?

In you mind, is there any advantages for geany plugins in this repo
other than other places?



Sorry, any *other* besides the quality enforcement?


Well, of course the geany-plugins is packaged for at least some
distros, in particular debian and ubuntu.  That will of course get
greater exposure, and maybe contributions, and also maybe bug reports
:)

BTW you mentioned a third party library, but you didn't say what
library.  It would of course have to have a suitable license to allow
it to be included.



The library is here: https://github.com/editorconfig/editorconfig-core

It is released under Simplified BSD License. So I believe this is not an 
issue.


Hong


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Re: [Geany-devel] Third party plugin publish and third party library bundle problem

2012-07-16 Thread Thomas Martitz

Am 16.07.2012 16:58, schrieb Thomas Martitz:

Am 16.07.2012 16:41, schrieb Hong Xu:

On 2012/7/15 20:28, Frank Lanitz wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:56:32 +1000
Lex Trotman  wrote:


BTW you mentioned a third party library, but you didn't say what
library.  It would of course have to have a suitable license to allow
it to be included.


Yes. I missed that too. Most plugins are GPL2+ so it needs to be also
GPL2+... BSD should also be fine in most cases. But LGPL could be
problematic.




I prefer Simplified BSD License for this plugin. What do you mean it 
should be fine for "most" cases? Could you explain more?


The 2-clause BSD is always fun. As is LGPLv2+.


s/fun/fine/ :)
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Re: [Geany-devel] Third party plugin publish and third party library bundle problem

2012-07-16 Thread Thomas Martitz

Am 16.07.2012 16:41, schrieb Hong Xu:

On 2012/7/15 20:28, Frank Lanitz wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:56:32 +1000
Lex Trotman  wrote:


BTW you mentioned a third party library, but you didn't say what
library.  It would of course have to have a suitable license to allow
it to be included.


Yes. I missed that too. Most plugins are GPL2+ so it needs to be also
GPL2+... BSD should also be fine in most cases. But LGPL could be
problematic.




I prefer Simplified BSD License for this plugin. What do you mean it 
should be fine for "most" cases? Could you explain more?


The 2-clause BSD is always fun. As is LGPLv2+.

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Re: [Geany-devel] Third party plugin publish and third party library bundle problem

2012-07-16 Thread Hong Xu

On 2012/7/15 21:21, Thomas Martitz wrote:

Am 15.07.2012 14:26, schrieb Frank Lanitz:

On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 19:01:53 +0800
Hong Xu  wrote:


On 07/15/2012 03:40 PM, Frank Lanitz wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 09:27:46 +0800
Hong Xu  wrote:


And, BTW, why geany-plugins project doesn't use a submodule for
each plugin? Not all people need to clone the whole repository,
and as it is separated to submodules, the permission control can
be better for developers.

IIRc this was under discussion in past but was dismissed due to
adding complexity and little overall understanding of this.
However, I don't think cloning the repository is this much traffic.
Also a goal was to have plugins and its patches being reviewed
before entering master to enforce a minimum on quality. This also
includes some fire-and-forget-plugins of some developers as you can
see from MAINTAINERS files there are a lot of plugins out of
maintenance.


Thanks. However, I have to make a pull request for any trivial
changes in this way. Do you think this is unnecessary?

We are still in finding a good flow on this as I agree its not optimal.


Most of the time changes are not actually trivial. Also multiple small
and trivial changes can be submitted as a single pull request.

Anyway this is the linux kernel dev model and it works good (for some
projects) even if tiny changes need to go through the chain as well.



OK, that should be fine.

Hong
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Re: [Geany-devel] Third party plugin publish and third party library bundle problem

2012-07-16 Thread Hong Xu

On 2012/7/15 20:28, Frank Lanitz wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:56:32 +1000
Lex Trotman  wrote:


BTW you mentioned a third party library, but you didn't say what
library.  It would of course have to have a suitable license to allow
it to be included.


Yes. I missed that too. Most plugins are GPL2+ so it needs to be also
GPL2+... BSD should also be fine in most cases. But LGPL could be
problematic.




I prefer Simplified BSD License for this plugin. What do you mean it 
should be fine for "most" cases? Could you explain more?


Thanks,
Hong
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Re: [Geany-devel] Third party plugin publish and third party library bundle problem

2012-07-15 Thread Thomas Martitz

Am 15.07.2012 14:26, schrieb Frank Lanitz:

On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 19:01:53 +0800
Hong Xu  wrote:


On 07/15/2012 03:40 PM, Frank Lanitz wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 09:27:46 +0800
Hong Xu  wrote:


And, BTW, why geany-plugins project doesn't use a submodule for
each plugin? Not all people need to clone the whole repository,
and as it is separated to submodules, the permission control can
be better for developers.

IIRc this was under discussion in past but was dismissed due to
adding complexity and little overall understanding of this.
However, I don't think cloning the repository is this much traffic.
Also a goal was to have plugins and its patches being reviewed
before entering master to enforce a minimum on quality. This also
includes some fire-and-forget-plugins of some developers as you can
see from MAINTAINERS files there are a lot of plugins out of
maintenance.


Thanks. However, I have to make a pull request for any trivial
changes in this way. Do you think this is unnecessary?

We are still in finding a good flow on this as I agree its not optimal.
  


Most of the time changes are not actually trivial. Also multiple small 
and trivial changes can be submitted as a single pull request.


Anyway this is the linux kernel dev model and it works good (for some 
projects) even if tiny changes need to go through the chain as well.


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Re: [Geany-devel] Third party plugin publish and third party library bundle problem

2012-07-15 Thread Frank Lanitz
On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:56:32 +1000
Lex Trotman  wrote:

> BTW you mentioned a third party library, but you didn't say what
> library.  It would of course have to have a suitable license to allow
> it to be included.

Yes. I missed that too. Most plugins are GPL2+ so it needs to be also
GPL2+... BSD should also be fine in most cases. But LGPL could be
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Re: [Geany-devel] Third party plugin publish and third party library bundle problem

2012-07-15 Thread Frank Lanitz
On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 19:01:53 +0800
Hong Xu  wrote:

> On 07/15/2012 03:40 PM, Frank Lanitz wrote:
> > On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 09:27:46 +0800
> > Hong Xu  wrote:
> >
> >> And, BTW, why geany-plugins project doesn't use a submodule for
> >> each plugin? Not all people need to clone the whole repository,
> >> and as it is separated to submodules, the permission control can
> >> be better for developers.
> >
> > IIRc this was under discussion in past but was dismissed due to
> > adding complexity and little overall understanding of this.
> > However, I don't think cloning the repository is this much traffic.
> > Also a goal was to have plugins and its patches being reviewed
> > before entering master to enforce a minimum on quality. This also
> > includes some fire-and-forget-plugins of some developers as you can
> > see from MAINTAINERS files there are a lot of plugins out of
> > maintenance.
> >
> 
> Thanks. However, I have to make a pull request for any trivial
> changes in this way. Do you think this is unnecessary?

We are still in finding a good flow on this as I agree its not optimal.
 
> In you mind, is there any advantages for geany plugins in this repo 
> other than other places?

Well... You don't need to care about releases, some translations topics
and some minor changes. Also in terms of visibility. But I don't think
its really needed for every plugin to be part of, no. 

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Re: [Geany-devel] Third party plugin publish and third party library bundle problem

2012-07-15 Thread Lex Trotman
On 15 July 2012 21:03, Hong Xu  wrote:
> On 07/15/2012 07:01 PM, Hong Xu wrote:
>>
>> On 07/15/2012 03:40 PM, Frank Lanitz wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 09:27:46 +0800
>>> Hong Xu  wrote:
>>>
 And, BTW, why geany-plugins project doesn't use a submodule for each
 plugin? Not all people need to clone the whole repository, and as it
 is separated to submodules, the permission control can be better for
 developers.
>>>
>>>
>>> IIRc this was under discussion in past but was dismissed due to adding
>>> complexity and little overall understanding of this. However, I don't
>>> think cloning the repository is this much traffic. Also a goal was to
>>> have plugins and its patches being reviewed before entering master to
>>> enforce a minimum on quality. This also includes some
>>> fire-and-forget-plugins of some developers as you can see from
>>> MAINTAINERS files there are a lot of plugins out of maintenance.
>>>
>>
>> Thanks. However, I have to make a pull request for any trivial changes
>> in this way. Do you think this is unnecessary?
>>
>> In you mind, is there any advantages for geany plugins in this repo
>> other than other places?
>
>
> Sorry, any *other* besides the quality enforcement?

Well, of course the geany-plugins is packaged for at least some
distros, in particular debian and ubuntu.  That will of course get
greater exposure, and maybe contributions, and also maybe bug reports
:)

BTW you mentioned a third party library, but you didn't say what
library.  It would of course have to have a suitable license to allow
it to be included.

Cheers
Lex


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Re: [Geany-devel] Third party plugin publish and third party library bundle problem

2012-07-15 Thread Hong Xu

On 07/15/2012 07:01 PM, Hong Xu wrote:

On 07/15/2012 03:40 PM, Frank Lanitz wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 09:27:46 +0800
Hong Xu  wrote:


And, BTW, why geany-plugins project doesn't use a submodule for each
plugin? Not all people need to clone the whole repository, and as it
is separated to submodules, the permission control can be better for
developers.


IIRc this was under discussion in past but was dismissed due to adding
complexity and little overall understanding of this. However, I don't
think cloning the repository is this much traffic. Also a goal was to
have plugins and its patches being reviewed before entering master to
enforce a minimum on quality. This also includes some
fire-and-forget-plugins of some developers as you can see from
MAINTAINERS files there are a lot of plugins out of maintenance.



Thanks. However, I have to make a pull request for any trivial changes
in this way. Do you think this is unnecessary?

In you mind, is there any advantages for geany plugins in this repo
other than other places?


Sorry, any *other* besides the quality enforcement?

Hong


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Re: [Geany-devel] Third party plugin publish and third party library bundle problem

2012-07-15 Thread Hong Xu

On 07/15/2012 03:40 PM, Frank Lanitz wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 09:27:46 +0800
Hong Xu  wrote:


And, BTW, why geany-plugins project doesn't use a submodule for each
plugin? Not all people need to clone the whole repository, and as it
is separated to submodules, the permission control can be better for
developers.


IIRc this was under discussion in past but was dismissed due to adding
complexity and little overall understanding of this. However, I don't
think cloning the repository is this much traffic. Also a goal was to
have plugins and its patches being reviewed before entering master to
enforce a minimum on quality. This also includes some
fire-and-forget-plugins of some developers as you can see from
MAINTAINERS files there are a lot of plugins out of maintenance.



Thanks. However, I have to make a pull request for any trivial changes 
in this way. Do you think this is unnecessary?


In you mind, is there any advantages for geany plugins in this repo 
other than other places?


Thank you,
Hong


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Re: [Geany-devel] Third party plugin publish and third party library bundle problem

2012-07-15 Thread Frank Lanitz
On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 09:27:46 +0800
Hong Xu  wrote:

> And, BTW, why geany-plugins project doesn't use a submodule for each 
> plugin? Not all people need to clone the whole repository, and as it
> is separated to submodules, the permission control can be better for 
> developers.

IIRc this was under discussion in past but was dismissed due to adding
complexity and little overall understanding of this. However, I don't
think cloning the repository is this much traffic. Also a goal was to
have plugins and its patches being reviewed before entering master to
enforce a minimum on quality. This also includes some
fire-and-forget-plugins of some developers as you can see from
MAINTAINERS files there are a lot of plugins out of maintenance. 

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Re: [Geany-devel] Third party plugin publish and third party library bundle problem

2012-07-15 Thread Frank Lanitz
On Sat, 07 Jul 2012 13:39:56 +0800
Hong Xu  wrote:

> Whatever the answer is, can I put my plugin in 
>  ? This repository seems
> better maintained than mine.

I didn't have a look onto you code by now but in general you can add
you plugin also to geany-plugins project. I'd prefer you to having you
own fork of plugins and sending pull request against
geany/geany-plguins/master

> The second problem is that, how should I bundle a third party C
> library with my plugin?

I think Matthew answered here very well. It really depends on how common
this library is or if you are patching it in some kind. Well... I don't
like shipping to much libraries with one plugin as there is always an
question of updates in terms of a security fault etc. Also this might
could cause ending up in typical Windows scenario where you are
might having GTK installed about 1000 times - each GTK serving its own
application. So: if the library is typical packaged for target
platforms or if its available via a common way (e.g. ppa on Ubuntu,
some of the rpm-pages for SuSE or Fedora/RH/SL) and you don't have any
patches inside I wouldn't deliver it with the plugin but depend on it. 

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Re: [Geany-devel] Third party plugin publish and third party library bundle problem

2012-07-14 Thread Hong Xu

On 07/15/2012 02:12 AM, Dominic Hopf wrote:

On Sat, 2012-07-07 at 13:39 +0800, Hong Xu wrote:

First, http://plugins.geany.org is a place for plugin list. But are
the third party plugins allowed here? All the pages seem working for
the plugins here:  including
the download page, installation page.


We already had another section for "Thirdparty plugins" in the
navigation. I removed the section because every of those three plugins
mentioned there were outdated or moved into the Geany-Plugins project
itself and that section thus wasn't necessary anymore. :)

It would be no big deal to introduce it again if you like. You can just
open another pull request for the plugins.geany.org website and I'll
have a look on it as soon as I find the time to do that. :)



Thank you. I'll make a pull request first, and then try to move it to 
geany-plugins project :)


And, BTW, why geany-plugins project doesn't use a submodule for each 
plugin? Not all people need to clone the whole repository, and as it is 
separated to submodules, the permission control can be better for 
developers.


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Re: [Geany-devel] Third party plugin publish and third party library bundle problem

2012-07-14 Thread Dominic Hopf
On Sat, 2012-07-14 at 20:12 +0200, Dominic Hopf wrote:
> It would be no big deal to introduce it again if you like. You can
> just open another pull request for the plugins.geany.org website and
> I'll have a look on it as soon as I find the time to do that. :)

If you're going to add your plugin to the Geany-Plugins project as well,
be advised I have another mail from Matthew flagged as "TODO" for the
plugins.geany.org website.

At present it is generating the navigation from a tagged release in Git.
I like Matthews idea to add plugins from the master branch when they
don't exist in the tagged release yet and add a hint to the generated
page that that specific plugin is under development. Only thing missing
is the implementation... :)

Regards,
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Re: [Geany-devel] Third party plugin publish and third party library bundle problem

2012-07-14 Thread Dominic Hopf
On Sat, 2012-07-07 at 13:39 +0800, Hong Xu wrote:
> First, http://plugins.geany.org is a place for plugin list. But are
> the third party plugins allowed here? All the pages seem working for
> the plugins here:  including
> the download page, installation page.

We already had another section for "Thirdparty plugins" in the
navigation. I removed the section because every of those three plugins
mentioned there were outdated or moved into the Geany-Plugins project
itself and that section thus wasn't necessary anymore. :)

It would be no big deal to introduce it again if you like. You can just
open another pull request for the plugins.geany.org website and I'll
have a look on it as soon as I find the time to do that. :)

Regards,
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Re: [Geany-devel] Third party plugin publish and third party library bundle problem

2012-07-11 Thread Hong Xu

On 07/10/2012 01:50 PM, Matthew Brush wrote:

On 12-07-06 10:39 PM, Hong Xu wrote:

Hi,

I have developed the EditorConfig plugin for Geany
.

"""
EditorConfig helps developers define and maintain consistent coding
styles between different editors and IDEs. The EditorConfig project
consists of *a file format* for defining coding styles and a collection
of *text editor plugins* that enable editors to read the file format and
adhere to defined styles. EditorConfig files are easily readibly and
they work nicely with version control systems. Website here

"""

However, I am confused how to publish this plugin.

First, http://plugins.geany.org is a place for plugin list. But are the
third party plugins allowed here? All the pages seem working for the
plugins here:  including the
download page, installation page.

Whatever the answer is, can I put my plugin in
 ? This repository seems better
maintained than mine.



I would assume it's OK, but you'll need to "be approved" by the
Geany-Plugins maintainer. Usually if you have a useful plugin that's
well coded enough, you just ask like you did and work with the
maintainer and other devs to integrate the plugin. You happen to have
asked right as the maintainer and other devs are preparing for a majour
release, so it kind of explains the silence to your question.


Ok, thanks!




The second problem is that, how should I bundle a third party C library
with my plugin?



If the library is readily available on the target platforms, you depend
on it using the build system and link it in (many plugins do this). If
it's really obscure or not packaged anywhere then you could just compile
its sources into your plugins'. The latter is what the Devhelp plugin
does for libdevhelp since it's not packaged for GTK+2 anymore on the
target platforms, but it's still quite a stupid thing to do.


Yes, this seems not reasonable, but I still need to do so. The library 
isn't available anywhere on the target system.


P.S. If you don't get any further with adding your plugin to the
project, wait until you see the release announcement for Geany-Plugins
here then you will know when people will be freed up more to help you.



Alright. I'll be waiting :)

Hong
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Re: [Geany-devel] Third party plugin publish and third party library bundle problem

2012-07-09 Thread Matthew Brush

On 12-07-06 10:39 PM, Hong Xu wrote:

Hi,

I have developed the EditorConfig plugin for Geany
.

"""
EditorConfig helps developers define and maintain consistent coding
styles between different editors and IDEs. The EditorConfig project
consists of *a file format* for defining coding styles and a collection
of *text editor plugins* that enable editors to read the file format and
adhere to defined styles. EditorConfig files are easily readibly and
they work nicely with version control systems. Website here

"""

However, I am confused how to publish this plugin.

First, http://plugins.geany.org is a place for plugin list. But are the
third party plugins allowed here? All the pages seem working for the
plugins here:  including the
download page, installation page.

Whatever the answer is, can I put my plugin in
 ? This repository seems better
maintained than mine.



I would assume it's OK, but you'll need to "be approved" by the 
Geany-Plugins maintainer. Usually if you have a useful plugin that's 
well coded enough, you just ask like you did and work with the 
maintainer and other devs to integrate the plugin. You happen to have 
asked right as the maintainer and other devs are preparing for a majour 
release, so it kind of explains the silence to your question.



The second problem is that, how should I bundle a third party C library
with my plugin?



If the library is readily available on the target platforms, you depend 
on it using the build system and link it in (many plugins do this). If 
it's really obscure or not packaged anywhere then you could just compile 
its sources into your plugins'. The latter is what the Devhelp plugin 
does for libdevhelp since it's not packaged for GTK+2 anymore on the 
target platforms, but it's still quite a stupid thing to do.


P.S. If you don't get any further with adding your plugin to the 
project, wait until you see the release announcement for Geany-Plugins 
here then you will know when people will be freed up more to help you.


Cheers,
Matthew Brush
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Re: [Geany-devel] Third party plugin publish and third party library bundle problem

2012-07-09 Thread Lex Trotman
On 10 July 2012 14:07, Hong Xu  wrote:
>
>
> On Jul 7, 2012, at 13:39, Hong Xu  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have developed the EditorConfig plugin for Geany 
>> .
>>
>> """
>> EditorConfig helps developers define and maintain consistent coding styles 
>> between different editors and IDEs. The EditorConfig project consists of *a 
>> file format* for defining coding styles and a collection of *text editor 
>> plugins* that enable editors to read the file format and adhere to defined 
>> styles. EditorConfig files are easily readibly and they work nicely with 
>> version control systems. Website here 
>> """
>>
>> However, I am confused how to publish this plugin.
>>
>> First, http://plugins.geany.org is a place for plugin list. But are the 
>> third party plugins allowed here? All the pages seem working for the plugins 
>> here:  including the download page, 
>> installation page.
>>
>> Whatever the answer is, can I put my plugin in 
>>  ? This repository seems better 
>> maintained than mine.
>>
>> The second problem is that, how should I bundle a third party C library with 
>> my plugin?
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>
>
> Would any one offer some help on this? Thank you!

Patience, the plugin project is trying to get a release out.  I am
sure they will help you as soon as they can.

Cheers
Lex


>
> Hong
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Re: [Geany-devel] Third party plugin publish and third party library bundle problem

2012-07-09 Thread Hong Xu


On Jul 7, 2012, at 13:39, Hong Xu  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have developed the EditorConfig plugin for Geany 
> .
> 
> """
> EditorConfig helps developers define and maintain consistent coding styles 
> between different editors and IDEs. The EditorConfig project consists of *a 
> file format* for defining coding styles and a collection of *text editor 
> plugins* that enable editors to read the file format and adhere to defined 
> styles. EditorConfig files are easily readibly and they work nicely with 
> version control systems. Website here 
> """
> 
> However, I am confused how to publish this plugin.
> 
> First, http://plugins.geany.org is a place for plugin list. But are the third 
> party plugins allowed here? All the pages seem working for the plugins here: 
>  including the download page, 
> installation page.
> 
> Whatever the answer is, can I put my plugin in 
>  ? This repository seems better 
> maintained than mine.
> 
> The second problem is that, how should I bundle a third party C library with 
> my plugin?
> 
> Thank you!
> 


Would any one offer some help on this? Thank you!

Hong
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[Geany-devel] Third party plugin publish and third party library bundle problem

2012-07-06 Thread Hong Xu

Hi,

I have developed the EditorConfig plugin for Geany 
.


"""
EditorConfig helps developers define and maintain consistent coding 
styles between different editors and IDEs. The EditorConfig project 
consists of *a file format* for defining coding styles and a collection 
of *text editor plugins* that enable editors to read the file format and 
adhere to defined styles. EditorConfig files are easily readibly and 
they work nicely with version control systems. Website here 


"""

However, I am confused how to publish this plugin.

First, http://plugins.geany.org is a place for plugin list. But are the 
third party plugins allowed here? All the pages seem working for the 
plugins here:  including the 
download page, installation page.


Whatever the answer is, can I put my plugin in 
 ? This repository seems better 
maintained than mine.


The second problem is that, how should I bundle a third party C library 
with my plugin?


Thank you!

Hong
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