Re: gEDA-user: CPLDs and other high-density logic chips...

2006-09-05 Thread Jean-Francois Blavier
Samuel A. Falvo II [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 9/4/06, John Sheahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I figured out how to get impact working with fc3 once, I can dig that
  out if its useful. It did involve kernel module compilation.

 Problem is, I'm a Slackware user.  [...]

I also use Slackware, and Xilinx Answer 18612 worked for me:

http://www.xilinx.com/xlnx/xil_ans_display.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yesgetPagePath=18612

Jean-Francois


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Re: gEDA-user: User Controlled Technology Ogg Vorbis player

2006-09-05 Thread Patrick Doyle

Take a look at gumstix (www.gumstix.com).  It's not a kit in the
manner that you describe, but they've got all the pieces you would
need to construct your own player.

--wpd


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gEDA-user: Re: CPLDs and other high-density logic chips...

2006-09-05 Thread Stephen Williams
Samuel A. Falvo II wrote:
 On 9/4/06, John Sheahan
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I figured out how to get impact working with fc3 once, I can dig that
 out if its useful. It did involve kernel module compilation.

 It sounds like Linux is all but unsupported still.  Token efforts of
 supporting Linux by only supporting one configuration of one
 distribution is not, in my opinion, an honest approach to saying, We
 support Linux.  I suppose I can give it a try, but with my past
 history with installing way-flakey software in the past, it sounds
 like it'd just plain be easier for me to go with Windows.

Well, I've run the Xilinx tools on various incarnations of SuSE
on AMD64 for a while now. The PC-IV driver doesn't work because
it's a 32bit driver, but impact does otherwise function on my
Linux. In fact, I don't think there is any version of Linux that
it does *not* work with, so you should be fine. There are some
answer records for various portability glitches.

As for it being less flakey on Windows, well... it just ain't
super-wonderfull-happy-as-a-mac software, Windows or Linux. It's
former Unix software ported to Windows, and back again :-/

-- 
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Re: gEDA-user: CPLDs and other high-density logic chips...

2006-09-05 Thread Harold D. Skank
Samuel,

I have worked with least two different options you might be able to use.
First of all, I haven't tried this, but I believe that you can compile
Xilinx FPGA's directly from Icarus, as this program apparently was done
in cooperation with Xilinx.  I have used Xilinx FPGA's, and I can
recommend them highly, with the exception that the ones I have used are
volatile and require a serial PROM to load them when the power is
applied.

As a second option, I have used Lattice devices as well, but I have not
been able to program these from Icarus and have had to purchase ispLEVER
to accomplish the programming.  These units do have the advantage of
being non-volatile, so that problem doesn't exist with Lattice.

I have also (several years in the past) used Actel FPGA's.  Again, they
work well, are non-volatile, but would require their own compiler.

Hope this helps.

Harold Skank

On Sat, 2006-09-02 at 22:30 -0700, Samuel A. Falvo II wrote:
 I am working on a project that, in the end, may require me to utilize
 a CPLD just to get the thing working and cost-effective.  But I really
 have no knowledge of how to prototype with such beasts.
 
 Is there a body of resources that you folks would recommend to a
 *total* neophyte with respect to CPLDs and FPGAs?  The farthest I've
 gotten in Verilog was to actually get something to simulate via
 Icarus, but actual synthesis and resynthesis is something that still
 escapes me, unfortunately.
 
 Also, what kind of capital investment am I looking at?
 
 My plan was to use a relatively simple CPLD for address decoding and
 other glue logic functions, but also perhaps an FPGA for generating
 VGA (640x480) video.
 
 Thanks.
 



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Re: gEDA-user: CPLDs and other high-density logic chips...

2006-09-05 Thread Joshua Boyd
On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 05:16:47PM -0400, Darrell Harmon wrote:

 The Xilinx software is available for a specific version of Redhat Enterprise
 Linux on x86 machines. I am successfully running it in a 32 bit chroot on 
 my AMD64 box running Debian. The install was not too difficult.

Does the chroot take care of the kernel modules?  Or do you just do without?
 
 Hopefully someday we will have a free software FPGA toolchain.

I hope so.  Wasn't someone working on that in this list.

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Re: gEDA-user: CPLDs and other high-density logic chips...

2006-09-05 Thread David Carr
You can actually do without the binary only kernel modules. I use a GPL 
tool called xc3sprog to program my Xilinx fpga devices. Do a quick 
google and you'll find it. It only officially supports Spartan 3 devices 
but I was able to make it program a Virtex II Pro as well. Let me know 
if you need some help getting it set up.


-David Carr

Joshua Boyd wrote:

On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 05:16:47PM -0400, Darrell Harmon wrote:

  

The Xilinx software is available for a specific version of Redhat Enterprise
Linux on x86 machines. I am successfully running it in a 32 bit chroot on 
my AMD64 box running Debian. The install was not too difficult.



Does the chroot take care of the kernel modules?  Or do you just do without?
 
  

Hopefully someday we will have a free software FPGA toolchain.



I hope so.  Wasn't someone working on that in this list.

  




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