Re: gEDA-user: Export gerber crash
On Mon, 2007-11-19 at 21:32 -0500, Ian Chapman wrote: I'll push Ubuntu to look at PCB-20070912, maybe there are dependencies like your debate about gtk vsn2. The versions should be fine, just that Ubuntu doesn't update newer versions of packages for older releases of the distribution. In Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), we have: pcb-20070208p1-1 As I recall, this is more usable than the last release (which had some GUI bugs in it). These bugs have since been fixed in CVS. What Ubuntu version do you have? I've got a .deb package for a slightly modified version (color, units defaults etc..) of PCB we deployed at the university engineering department. It might need rebuilding for use on an older Ubuntu, but I can give instructions as needed. Such packages have the advantage of being managed by the package management system. (You can remove it, or newer numbered versions will still upgrade it). Regards, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: time to contribute...
Seems not to be easy to set up a working page at gedasymbols. Give him a chance to get everything uploaded! He just started putting files up there yesterday. (although I should probably customize that error page for gedasymbols) Yes, you should ask for an account. If you have a local directory structure that works, moving it to gedasymbols is not that hard. How are preview pictures handled at gedasymbols? Do we have to create a png-file for each symbol/footprint, or is this done automatically? It's all done automatically. You just upload the .fp or .sym and link directly to it. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: time to contribute...
Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: Now, that my local library of symbols and footprints has been tested in the sense that it produced working boards, its time to contribute. I have seen that your page at gedasymbols is up -- clicking on links still gives something like 404 Phfft! Ack! I can't seem to find the file you were looking for! Seems not to be easy to set up a working page at gedasymbols. I have some symbols and footprints too -- I am not sure if I should present them on my own homepage or ask for access to gedasymbols too. How are preview pictures handled at gedasymbols? Do we have to create a png-file for each symbol/footprint, or is this done automatically? Regards Stefan Salewski ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: GPL2 Mime icons
Hi everyone, Based (with permission) on Tomaz's Tango icons: (http://www.tablix.org/~avian/blog/archives/2007/04/22/T22_41_14/) I've made some based on the text-x-generic icon from the GNOME theme: (http://www2.eng.cam.ac.uk/~pcjc2/geda/icons/mime/) These ones based on the GNOME theme are GPL2, so we should be able to ship them as part of the gEDA suite without any licensing worries. Tomaz's Tango based icons (which are CC-BY-SA licensed), should hopefully be made available as an addition to the Tango icon theme. There is a branch here: http://repo.or.cz/w/geda-gaf/pcjc2.git?a=shortlog;h=desktop_integration This demonstrates how these might be installed as part of the gEDA suite. There is a little work yet to do with the application icons, but you'll be able to see the beginnings of those and the .desktop files there too. Best wishes, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: GPL2 Mime icons
These are very beautiful! Great work! Thanks to both you and Tomaz for doing this! Stuart On Tue, 20 Nov 2007, Peter Clifton wrote: Hi everyone, Based (with permission) on Tomaz's Tango icons: (http://www.tablix.org/~avian/blog/archives/2007/04/22/T22_41_14/) I've made some based on the text-x-generic icon from the GNOME theme: (http://www2.eng.cam.ac.uk/~pcjc2/geda/icons/mime/) These ones based on the GNOME theme are GPL2, so we should be able to ship them as part of the gEDA suite without any licensing worries. Tomaz's Tango based icons (which are CC-BY-SA licensed), should hopefully be made available as an addition to the Tango icon theme. There is a branch here: http://repo.or.cz/w/geda-gaf/pcjc2.git?a=shortlog;h=desktop_integration This demonstrates how these might be installed as part of the gEDA suite. There is a little work yet to do with the application icons, but you'll be able to see the beginnings of those and the .desktop files there too. Best wishes, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: GPL2 Mime icons
On Tuesday 20 November 2007 17:17, Peter Clifton wrote: I've made some based on the text-x-generic icon from the GNOME theme: (http://www2.eng.cam.ac.uk/~pcjc2/geda/icons/mime/) Looks great! Are there SVG versions? Peter ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Enlarged footprints for hand soldering -- name conventions
In the geda JEDEC library, they use M for maximum pads, and L for least pads. http://www.delorie.com/pcb/smd-challenge/fp-pix/ ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: Enlarged footprints for hand soldering -- name conventions
Hello, some footprint outlines suggested by manufactures are only useful for automatic hot air soldering (ie. DFN14 of LTC4088 from Linear). For hand soldering extended pads are necessary -- so I will create two versions. How should I name the official (manufacturer) and the extended footprints? PartName.fp (size as spezified in datasheet) PartName_ext.fp (extended) PartName_ext10.fp (each pad extended by 10mil) PartName_hs.fp (hand soldering) ? Best regards Stefan Salewski ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Questions on downloading and installing gnucap and gwave
This is getting comical. Here's the results-de-jour: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# yum install g++ Setting up Install Process Parsing package install arguments No package g++ available. Nothing to do [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# I have seven flavors of gcc: gcc, gcc-c++, gcc-gfortran, gcc-gnat, gcc-java, gcc-objc and gcc-objc++. Would installing gcc and gcc-c++ be fine? On Nov 20, 2007 12:33 AM, al davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 19 November 2007, al davis wrote: To fix it, you need to install a compiler. It isn't needed for gwave, but if you want to compile gnucap, and its plugins, you will need C++ too. clarify C++ isn't needed for gwave. C is. (and guile 1.6) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: GPL2 Mime icons
On Tue, 2007-11-20 at 17:59 +, Peter TB Brett wrote: On Tuesday 20 November 2007 17:17, Peter Clifton wrote: I've made some based on the text-x-generic icon from the GNOME theme: (http://www2.eng.cam.ac.uk/~pcjc2/geda/icons/mime/) Looks great! Are there SVG versions? They are all .svg to start with (apart from the scalable one without the -YY size suffix, which is a blow-up of original the 48x48 canvas svg). Its a hack really, as the hicolor icon theme expects its scalable icons to be on a 128x128 canvas, where every other theme wants 48x48. The originals are in the git repo branch, so I didn't make great effort to link them all from that page. Best wishes, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Questions on downloading and installing gnucap and gwave
On Tue, 2007-11-20 at 14:12 -0500, Robert Butts wrote: This is getting comical. Here's the results-de-jour: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# yum install g++ Setting up Install Process Parsing package install arguments No package g++ available. Nothing to do [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# I have seven flavors of gcc: gcc, gcc-c++, gcc-gfortran, gcc-gnat, gcc-java, gcc-objc and gcc-objc++. Would installing gcc and gcc-c++ be fine? gcc is the C compiler, gcc-c++ is the C++ compiler Yes, this should be what you want, but try pulling in some commonly needed development tools and prerequisites with this command: yum install build-essentials When you build, and find it can't find certain libraries etc.., it probably means you need to install the -dev or -devel versions of those library packages. PS.. gcc-gfortran is the Fortran compiler gcc-gnat is the Ada compiler gcc-java is the Java compiler gcc-objc is the Objective C compiler gcc-objc++ is the Objective C++ compiler None of those languages are used in the gEDA suite (as far as I know). Best wishes, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Enlarged footprints for hand soldering -- name conventions
On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 13:58:02 -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: M for maximum pads, and L for least pads. Why didn't they go in line with the common T-Shirt sizes: S = small, M = medium, L = large, XL = extra large ... ---(kaimartin)--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover http://www.iqo.uni-hannover.de GPG key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=Knaak+kmkop=get ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Enlarged footprints for hand soldering -- name conventions
I asked the same question a few months ago and didn't think the Nominal/Maximal/Least names where suitable for my hand soldered footprints. For the hand soldered footprints the pads extend way past what is in the maximal JDEC footprint. I decided to just postscript HS onto the end of the footprint and keep them to myself so as to not confuse other people. Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 13:58:02 -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: M for maximum pads, and L for least pads. Why didn't they go in line with the common T-Shirt sizes: S = small, M = medium, L = large, XL = extra large ... ---(kaimartin)--- ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Enlarged footprints for hand soldering -- name conventions
When i have made hand soldering pads for QFP with the center pad I used the HS for hand solder, because it is not truly the M for maximum and would conflict with a true JEDEC M my QFP with pad hand solder has a pin placed in the center of the pad to allow for applying heat through the via and to solder the back of the part. Steve On Nov 20, 2007 1:51 PM, Stefan Salewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, some footprint outlines suggested by manufactures are only useful for automatic hot air soldering (ie. DFN14 of LTC4088 from Linear). For hand soldering extended pads are necessary -- so I will create two versions. How should I name the official (manufacturer) and the extended footprints? PartName.fp (size as spezified in datasheet) PartName_ext.fp (extended) PartName_ext10.fp (each pad extended by 10mil) PartName_hs.fp (hand soldering) ? Best regards Stefan Salewski ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Enlarged footprints for hand soldering -- na me conventions
Hello! Having several variants of the same footprint requires some work to modify basic footprint of each symbol to add soldering techhnology suffix. This can be automated however. Another solution is to store them in several libraries, then you only have to specify the soldering technology (hand soldering, wave, heat transfer etc.) while transfering the design from gschem to pcb. Wojciech Kazubski some footprint outlines suggested by manufactures are only useful for automatic hot air soldering (ie. DFN14 of LTC4088 from Linear). For hand soldering extended pads are necessary -- so I will create two versions. How should I name the official (manufacturer) and the extended footprints? PartName.fp (size as spezified in datasheet) PartName_ext.fp (extended) PartName_ext10.fp (each pad extended by 10mil) PartName_hs.fp (hand soldering) ? Best regards Stefan Salewski ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: gEDA/gschem: is guile regex module important?
On 11/18/07, Peter TB Brett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 18 November 2007 22:52:14 evan foss wrote: Try flipping a pin horizontally with out it. On my box that terminates gschem. I had to recompile guile with it a few days ago. This probably needs to be fixed, then. Fancy filing a bug? ;P I just figured it was a dependency. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
