gEDA-user: Are some of our standard footprints tiny??

2008-09-21 Thread Ben Jackson
Look at:

http://www.gedasymbols.org/scripts/search.cgi?key=0603

Are the CAPC*, and RES* footprints way too small?

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Re: gEDA-user: Deformed undesired tiny square

2008-09-21 Thread Andrea Grillini
DJ Delorie wrote:
 The square (black hollow diamond) is the mark used to identify the
 origin of each element.  Normally it's on pin 1 or the centroid of the
 element, but it can be put anywhere.

So I guess I'm in the second situation, anywhere ;-) ... Can you see
any way to move it in a less unpleasant position? Actually I didn't
choose the present position, I don't know how to move it and I don't
know either what pin 1 or centroid it refers to... :-(

Thanks


A.


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Re: gEDA-user: Deformed undesired tiny square

2008-09-21 Thread Andrea Grillini
Peter Clifton wrote:
 The squares (diamond?) you're seeing look like they are element origin
 marks for one of the items on the page.

How can I tell what is the item? The footprint I drew is simple and its
text source is simple, where could be the trick in it?

Thanks


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Re: gEDA-user: Are some of our standard footprints tiny??

2008-09-21 Thread David Kuehling
 Ben == Ben Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Look at: http://www.gedasymbols.org/scripts/search.cgi?key=0603

 Are the CAPC*, and RES* footprints way too small?

CAPC0603 is *not* a 0603.  The CAPC* and RES* footprints use metric
units, the CAPC0603 corresponds to a 0201 mil footprint.  For the 0603
mil footprint use CAPC1608*.

See also the comments in /usr/share/pcb/m4/geda.inc 

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Re: gEDA-user: Are some of our standard footprints tiny??

2008-09-21 Thread Stefan Salewski
Am Sonntag, den 21.09.2008, 12:54 +0200 schrieb David Kuehling:
  Are the CAPC*, and RES* footprints way too small?
 
 CAPC0603 is *not* a 0603.  The CAPC* and RES* footprints use metric
 units, the CAPC0603 corresponds to a 0201 mil footprint.  For the 0603
 mil footprint use CAPC1608*.
 
 See also the comments in /usr/share/pcb/m4/geda.inc 

This is really a serious trap.




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Re: gEDA-user: Deformed undesired tiny square

2008-09-21 Thread DJ Delorie

 Can you see any way to move it in a less unpleasant position?

You have to edit the footprint.  Old style footprints, you have to
edit all the parts of the footprint (the mark is the origin of the
footprint's coordinate system).  New style, you edit the Mark() entry.

Then you have to replace the footprint on the board with a new one.
You can either delete it and let gsch2pcb do its thing, or manually
load the footprint (load element, or use the library) and shift-click
on each old element to replace the old with the new.  Lining up the
pads might be tricky if you moved the mark in a non-multiple of your
grid settings.


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Re: gEDA-user: the peril of ascii file formats

2008-09-21 Thread Michael Sokolov
John Griessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How are your non-X11 schematic methods coming Michael?

cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/fs1/IFCTF-cvs co ueda

It's coming along.  The project has been on hold for a while as I've
been dealing with other life priorities, but I'll be able to resume it
soon now that my data centre move is complete.

 Do you have a 
 way to tie in your preferred ascii-art schematics with netlist creation?

Oh yes, it's tied in with netlist creation very well, although my
schematics aren't ASCII art, they are non-WYSIWYG PostScript.

MS


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gEDA-user: [OT] MIT Flea

2008-09-21 Thread John Luciani
Pictures I took at today's MIT Flea Market are at http://tinyurl.com/44mpwq
Enigma machines, an Arp Quartet, free advice and a chainsaw.

Pictures of the MIT Gehry building are at the bottom of the page.

(* jcl *)

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Re: gEDA-user: [OT] MIT Flea

2008-09-21 Thread Stuart Brorson
 Pictures I took at today's MIT Flea Market are at http://tinyurl.com/44mpwq
 Enigma machines, an Arp Quartet, free advice and a chainsaw.

Interestingly, I biked by the Flea at about 7:30am this morning.  I
was on my way to the Hub on Wheels Boston-wide bike ride with my
buddy.

We stopped at the flea and looked over the bushes to see what was on
sale.  We didn't go in because it was before opening time.  Also, I
don't need more electronic junk in my basement.   ;-)

But I did see this strange contraption from the street:

http://www.luciani.org/photos/pic1/2008-09-21-mit-flea/IMG_1612.JPG

Do you have any idea what it is?

Stuart


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Re: gEDA-user: the peril of ascii file formats

2008-09-21 Thread John Griessen
Michael Sokolov wrote:
  Oh yes, it's tied in with netlist creation very well, although my
 schematics aren't ASCII art, they are non-WYSIWYG PostScript.


Oh, sorry bout the misunderstanding.   I was remembering some 
discussions on the list with ascii-art and presumed that was your 
preferred schematic style.

John


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Re: gEDA-user: [OT] MIT Flea

2008-09-21 Thread evan foss
I think that is a gyroscope. Those things connecting the rings are
likely resolvers or encoders of some kind.

On 9/21/08, Stuart Brorson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Pictures I took at today's MIT Flea Market are at http://tinyurl.com/44mpwq
   Enigma machines, an Arp Quartet, free advice and a chainsaw.


 Interestingly, I biked by the Flea at about 7:30am this morning.  I
  was on my way to the Hub on Wheels Boston-wide bike ride with my
  buddy.

  We stopped at the flea and looked over the bushes to see what was on
  sale.  We didn't go in because it was before opening time.  Also, I
  don't need more electronic junk in my basement.   ;-)

  But I did see this strange contraption from the street:

  http://www.luciani.org/photos/pic1/2008-09-21-mit-flea/IMG_1612.JPG

  Do you have any idea what it is?


  Stuart



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Re: gEDA-user: [OT] MIT Flea

2008-09-21 Thread Steve Morss
John Luciani wrote:
 Pictures I took at today's MIT Flea Market are at http://tinyurl.com/44mpwq
 Enigma machines, an Arp Quartet, free advice and a chainsaw.

 Pictures of the MIT Gehry building are at the bottom of the page.

 (* jcl *)

   
You think those Enigma machines are real?  They are pretty historic (and 
probably aren't too many of them).


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Re: gEDA-user: [OT] MIT Flea

2008-09-21 Thread evan foss
On 9/21/08, Steve Morss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 John Luciani wrote:
   Pictures I took at today's MIT Flea Market are at http://tinyurl.com/44mpwq
   Enigma machines, an Arp Quartet, free advice and a chainsaw.
  
   Pictures of the MIT Gehry building are at the bottom of the page.
  
   (* jcl *)
  
  

 You think those Enigma machines are real?  They are pretty historic (and
  probably aren't too many of them).

I though they were reproductions.




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Re: gEDA-user: [OT] MIT Flea

2008-09-21 Thread Larry Doolittle
Guys -

On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 08:53:29PM -0400, evan foss wrote:
 On 9/21/08, Stuart Brorson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   But I did see this strange contraption from the street:
   http://www.luciani.org/photos/pic1/2008-09-21-mit-flea/IMG_1612.JPG
   Do you have any idea what it is?
 I think that is a gyroscope. Those things connecting the rings are
 likely resolvers or encoders of some kind.

I think the word you're looking for is goniometer,
specificially a two-axis goniometer.

   - Larry


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Re: gEDA-user: [OT] MIT Flea

2008-09-21 Thread John Luciani
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 9:36 PM, Steve Morss
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You think those Enigma machines are real?  They are pretty historic (and
 probably aren't too many of them).

I think some of them are real and others are reproductions. The display varies
from year to year. This year's display is the largest that I have seen.

The fellows name is Tom Ferera (http://W1TP.com). When I talked to him a couple
of years ago he mentioned that he takes a working vacation every year in
Europe and tries to track down pieces of the machines.

(* jcl *)

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Re: gEDA-user: A little tribute...

2008-09-21 Thread Ales Hvezda

Hi,

 now that I fell so much in love with gEDA and GnuCap alike - I've 
 created a little tutorial for total beginners about both. I hope you 
 enjoy it.
 
 http://johannes-bauer.com/electronics/
 

This is a really nice tutorial and really useful to those users who
want to use gnucap and gEDA.  As mentioned before by others, I too would
love to see this as part of the gEDA wiki/documentation.  First off,
would you allow it to live/be replicated on the gEDA site and second,
any volunteers to convert it to dokuwiki format?

Thanks,
-Ales



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Re: gEDA-user: [OT] MIT Flea

2008-09-21 Thread Dave N6NZ
John Luciani wrote:
 On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 9:36 PM, Steve Morss
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 You think those Enigma machines are real?  They are pretty historic (and
 probably aren't too many of them).
 
 I think some of them are real and others are reproductions. The display varies
 from year to year. This year's display is the largest that I have seen.
 
Enigmas are very interesting machines.  This summer I had a chance to 
take a tour of the NSA museum, and they have several, of different 
configurations.  A couple were out in the open for people to type on, so 
of course I had to encode a few silly things.  Rather laborious.  They 
said the standard operating procedure was to have two operators, one 
typing, the other writing down the cipher text.  I can see why.

The thing I enjoyed most was the BOMBE that they had on display (non 
working).  A friend of mine who just happens to be a PhD cryptographer 
tells me that in addition to the BOMBE, cracking was also helped by: 1) 
A clear text letter never represents itself in cipher text, 2) All 
military messages were in a rigid format, 3) they usually started with 
the politically correct Heil Hitler after the fixed date/time/ship/etc 
preamble, and 4) the operators often chose their dog's name or their 
girlfriend's name as the code setting word.

-dave


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Re: gEDA-user: [OT] MIT Flea

2008-09-21 Thread Dave McGuire
On Sep 22, 2008, at 1:03 AM, Dave N6NZ wrote:
 Enigmas are very interesting machines.  This summer I had a chance to
 take a tour of the NSA museum, and they have several, of different
 configurations.  A couple were out in the open for people to type  
 on, so
 of course I had to encode a few silly things.  Rather laborious.  They
 said the standard operating procedure was to have two operators, one
 typing, the other writing down the cipher text.  I can see why.

 The thing I enjoyed most was the BOMBE that they had on display (non
 working).  A friend of mine who just happens to be a PhD cryptographer
 tells me that in addition to the BOMBE, cracking was also helped  
 by: 1)
 A clear text letter never represents itself in cipher text, 2) All
 military messages were in a rigid format, 3) they usually started with
 the politically correct Heil Hitler after the fixed date/time/ 
 ship/etc
 preamble, and 4) the operators often chose their dog's name or their
 girlfriend's name as the code setting word.

   Was this the National Museum of Cryptology, in Maryland?  I love  
that place...I used to live just a few miles from there and have been  
there many times.

   While on a week-long business trip in that area about two years  
ago, I had a lot of hotel time to blow, so I wrote an Enigma  
simulator in C.  It was lots of fun because I was able to go to the  
Museum and verify my results against a real Enigma machine.

  -Dave

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