gEDA-user: ben mode

2008-12-27 Thread DJ Delorie

... is now called photo mode with suitable option changes.

The old --ben-* options still work, but are no longer documented.


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Re: gEDA-user: electrolytic capacitors

2008-12-27 Thread Dave McGuire
On Dec 27, 2008, at 5:40 AM, Robas, Teodor wrote:
 Do not count on this kind of capacitors:

 http://deep-blue.ro/tmp/chinese%20capacitor.jpg

 :))

   Oh.  My.  God. *shudder*

   That does it...I'm now going to stick EVERY ELECTROLYTIC CAPACITOR  
I BUY on a bridge before I use it.

 -Dave

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Re: gEDA-user: electrolytic capacitors

2008-12-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 27 December 2008, Robas, Teodor wrote:
Do not count on this kind of capacitors:

http://deep-blue.ro/tmp/chinese%20capacitor.jpg

:))

What a ripoff.  No way in hell that would last more than a day, if that long 
with 50 volts of bias on it, (I'd guess 10 minutes max) and I'd have doubts 
even the dual can would contain the debris.

I take it you got curious when incoming QC said they weren't in spec?  BTW, 
that is a neat opening of the can you did.

They can explode pretty violently, so let me tell you a story.  Back in the 
mid-60's I came across a tube type, mobile cb radio that had to be one of the 
few attempts to build one for a 6 volt vehicle system, and predated the old 
Johnson whiteface by probably 10 years.  My pickup at the time, a 52 ford, 
had long since been converted to 12 volts, and I was in the radio, on the 
kitchen table, moving wires to convert it to 12 volts.  I missed one without 
realizing it, and had it running on a 12 volt supply for test.  It worked 
really really well, talking to the neighbors on a piece of wire laying on the 
floor for an antenna.  But after about 15 minutes the main filter capacitor 
let go, and the top of the can put a quarter sized print in the plastered 
ceiling that was about 1/4 deep.  I'm glad I wasn't in front of it at the 
time, else I might have been seriously injured.  I tried with a 20 oz hammer 
and could not put a dent that deep in that plaster with it.  Putting my meter 
on the stubs of the cans terminals I found the supply was making a hair over 
785 volts, and the can carried a 450 volt label.  I cleaned up the mess, 
replaced the cap, and found the other 2 taps on the transformer that I had 
missed, and ran that radio till I finally got a transistorized one.  But my 
kids, who were upstairs in bed at the time, have always said, somewhat tongue 
in cheek, that daddy was shooting at them. :)
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Re: gEDA-user: OT: Recommendations for laptop?

2008-12-27 Thread Larry Doolittle
On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 02:01:12PM -0800, Dave N6NZ wrote:
 
 One thing I've always liked about the Thinkpad's/Lenovo's is the 
 excellent feel and behavior of the pressure stick.  Works great.  My 
 new Lenovo has both a stick (which I like and use) and also a scratcher, 
 which keeps getting in the way because I keep accidentally dragging a 
 finger over it and losing my cursor...

Seconded.  I have had laptops with all combinations.  I quickly
adapt to the pressure stick (http://xkcd.com/243/), but to the
track-pad, not so much.

One more plus for the X40 with pressure stick only: three mouse buttons.

   - Larry


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Re: gEDA-user: electrolytic capacitors

2008-12-27 Thread Dan McMahill
Gene Heskett wrote:

 They can explode pretty violently, so let me tell you a story.  Back in the 
 mid-60's I came across a tube type, mobile cb radio that had to be one of the 
 few attempts to build one for a 6 volt vehicle system, and predated the old 
 Johnson whiteface by probably 10 years.  My pickup at the time, a 52 ford, 
 had long since been converted to 12 volts, and I was in the radio, on the 
 kitchen table, moving wires to convert it to 12 volts.  I missed one without 
 realizing it, and had it running on a 12 volt supply for test.  It worked 
 really really well, talking to the neighbors on a piece of wire laying on the 
 floor for an antenna.  But after about 15 minutes the main filter capacitor 
 let go, and the top of the can put a quarter sized print in the plastered 
 ceiling that was about 1/4 deep.  I'm glad I wasn't in front of it at the

too funny.  My exploding cap story is also related to automotive 
electronics.  The explosion happened at 2 AM when I was in high school. 
  Mom and Dad were not too thrilled about it if I recall correctly.

Makes a lasting impression though doesn't it?

-Dan


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Re: gEDA-user: electrolytic capacitors

2008-12-27 Thread Dave McGuire
On Dec 27, 2008, at 2:17 PM, Dan McMahill wrote:
 They can explode pretty violently, so let me tell you a story.   
 Back in the
 mid-60's I came across a tube type, mobile cb radio that had to be  
 one of the
 few attempts to build one for a 6 volt vehicle system, and  
 predated the old
 Johnson whiteface by probably 10 years.  My pickup at the time, a  
 52 ford,
 had long since been converted to 12 volts, and I was in the radio,  
 on the
 kitchen table, moving wires to convert it to 12 volts.  I missed  
 one without
 realizing it, and had it running on a 12 volt supply for test.  It  
 worked
 really really well, talking to the neighbors on a piece of wire  
 laying on the
 floor for an antenna.  But after about 15 minutes the main filter  
 capacitor
 let go, and the top of the can put a quarter sized print in the  
 plastered
 ceiling that was about 1/4 deep.  I'm glad I wasn't in front of  
 it at the

 too funny.  My exploding cap story is also related to automotive
 electronics.  The explosion happened at 2 AM when I was in high  
 school.
   Mom and Dad were not too thrilled about it if I recall correctly.

 Makes a lasting impression though doesn't it?

   Years ago, I had a friend who used to have some pretty wild  
parties.  Sometimes us geekier types would head down to the basement  
with him, fairly drunk, and start blowing up small (very small)  
electrolytic capacitors with a nice power supply that he had set up  
for exactly that purpose.  He had a box of hundreds of capacitors  
that he'd harvested from old PCBs.  It was great fun. :)

-Dave

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Re: gEDA-user: electrolytic capacitors

2008-12-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 27 December 2008, Dan McMahill wrote:
Gene Heskett wrote:
 They can explode pretty violently, so let me tell you a story.  Back in
 the mid-60's I came across a tube type, mobile cb radio that had to be one
 of the few attempts to build one for a 6 volt vehicle system, and predated
 the old Johnson whiteface by probably 10 years.  My pickup at the time, a
 52 ford, had long since been converted to 12 volts, and I was in the
 radio, on the kitchen table, moving wires to convert it to 12 volts.  I
 missed one without realizing it, and had it running on a 12 volt supply
 for test.  It worked really really well, talking to the neighbors on a
 piece of wire laying on the floor for an antenna.  But after about 15
 minutes the main filter capacitor let go, and the top of the can put a
 quarter sized print in the plastered ceiling that was about 1/4 deep. 
 I'm glad I wasn't in front of it at the

too funny.  My exploding cap story is also related to automotive
electronics.  The explosion happened at 2 AM when I was in high school.
  Mom and Dad were not too thrilled about it if I recall correctly.

Makes a lasting impression though doesn't it?

Yup, one I sure won't forget this side of the rapture.  It left my ears 
ringing slightly, but they've done that since back in the mid 60's when I 
wore out the first 2 barrels on Old Meat in the Pot, shooting on my own 
property with 2 good sized trees less than 10 feet away from the front of the 
bench, without earmuffs.  The back blast off those trees was substantial. :(  
Now at 74, I've been considering a hearing aid, but can't seem to get my hand 
to write a check for a decent used car that fits in my ear.

-Dan


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