Re: gEDA-user: Wish list, sort of

2009-01-07 Thread John Griessen
Werner Hoch wrote:
 On Dienstag, 6. Januar 2009, r wrote:

 If this virtual library could store both symbols and schematics (as
 well as netlists, models, ...) that would be great.
 
 It currently has references to model files. The filenames are added to 
 the symbol attributes.
 You can start the simulation after netlisting.
 
 Why would you like to store schematics in that database? 
 Or Netlists?
 Sounds strange to me.

I like the idea to use git for going back and creating branches of netlists and 
schematics.
Anything less than a full snapshot of a project dir in sync with a netlist or 
schematic version would confuse me.

John Griessen

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Re: gEDA-user: some pcb-20081128 nuisances/bugs

2009-01-07 Thread Christoph Lechner
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Christoph Lechner wrote:
 * (this one is maybe a result of my scarce pcb skills) after working for
 a while (and highlighting some nets during that time), pressing the
 'Select' button doesn't high light the net permanently; the net is only
 flashing.
OK found a way to reproduce this one:
1) Highlight one net in the PCB Netlist window by pressing the
'Select' button
2) With the net this highlighed run the DRC
3) now the nets flash for a short time instead of being highlighted.

HTH
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Re: gEDA-user: symbol databases, was Re: Wish list, sort of

2009-01-07 Thread John Griessen
Mike Crowe wrote:

 I have used some of the comercial schematic packages that allow
 integration of attribute information into a database.  It provides
 significant improvements for tasks such as; generating purchasing
 requests, inventory management, and bill of materials management, and
 component obsolescence.  When viewing the attributes on the schematic,
 one is looking at the latest component information.

The function of schematic viewed with latest data can be had with
a files-as-database system too, just by using a different project definition 
file,
or ini files, however you call it.

Could database driven apps get their data from gschem running this way?  That 
might have to be done
with another full project dir, but that can be had easily with a git branch.  
The work flow I
am imagining is:  Werner's files-as-database system used to create a version, 
git create a branch
later for analyzing new parts used, update project file to use newest 
libraries, connect database apps to that
project dir somehow, (probably with  Peter Brett's libgeda database-connector.

John Griessen

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Re: gEDA-user: symbol databases, was Re: Wish list, sort of

2009-01-07 Thread Werner Hoch
Hi John,

On Dienstag, 6. Januar 2009, John Doty wrote:
 On Jan 6, 2009, at 1:36 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:
 Yes! If you keep your project's symbols together in a project symbol
 directory, this is very easy. Each symbol file encodes a relation,
 including graphics, and is conveniently editable in gschem. The files
 are also easy to process with classic text tools. That's your
 database.

I've added a per project symbol library to the todo list of gEDA 1.8:
http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:todos#stable1

 But there seems to be a mental block here. We keep trying to make the
 library symbols more usable, and don't get that that's a road a
 billion files long.

 The library symbols are templates only: a facility to automatically
 copy a selected symbol to the project symbol directory is needed. 

Not sure. I prefer having complete symbols for all larger parts and only 
symbol templates for small parts (resistors, ...). But no matter how 
the data source (symbol library) provides the symbols I think It would 
be good to have a local storage for every project (or schematic).

 Do that, and the user is defended from library changes, 

This would also help to maintain the symbol library, as you don't have 
to take care of every user of the library.
If there's a bad symbol in the library you can change or delete it.

Regards
Werner


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Re: gEDA-user: symbol databases, was Re: Wish list, sort of

2009-01-07 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Wednesday 07 January 2009 18:44:04 Werner Hoch wrote:
 Hi John,

 On Dienstag, 6. Januar 2009, John Doty wrote:
  On Jan 6, 2009, at 1:36 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:
  Yes! If you keep your project's symbols together in a project symbol
  directory, this is very easy. Each symbol file encodes a relation,
  including graphics, and is conveniently editable in gschem. The files
  are also easy to process with classic text tools. That's your
  database.

 I've added a per project symbol library to the todo list of gEDA 1.8:
 http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:todos#stable1

I can probably put together a Guile script which will implement this, using 
the current framework.

Peter


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Electronic Systems Engineer
Integral Informatics Ltd



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Re: gEDA-user: symbol databases, was Re: Wish list, sort of

2009-01-07 Thread Werner Hoch
On Dienstag, 30. Dezember 2008, Peter TB Brett wrote:
 On Wednesday 07 January 2009 18:44:04 Werner Hoch wrote:
  I've added a per project symbol library to the todo list of gEDA
  1.8: http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:todos#stable1

 I can probably put together a Guile script which will implement this,
 using the current framework.

That would be cool.

But we should carefully think about everything that has to do with this 
topic.
* library reload (update the schematic with parts from the global lib)
* symbol name collisions
* checksums for the local symbols?
* ...

Regards
Werner





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gEDA-user: gedamanager - Xlib: extension RANDR missing on display

2009-01-07 Thread Peter Wiley-Cordone
I'm running geda on a macbook, ver 10.5 osx using macports to pull  
down dependencies.  I'm planning on pulling together a macports  
release for geda (if that interests anyone).

I'm trying to run geda_manager with python 2.4 (through macports).   
I'm getting the following error when I try to launch it:

Xlib:  extension RANDR missing on display /tmp/launch-H4jk01/:0.

Has anyone ran into this before?  Any advice.

Peter
pcord...@ieee.org






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