gEDA-user: How to save results in txt file?

2009-07-17 Thread Piter_

   Hi all.
   I have results of DC sweep. Can plot it, but cant figure out how to
   save it in txt file (tab delimited for example, or other), for
   plotting in something other than ngspice.
   Thanks in advance.
   Petro.


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Re: gEDA-user: How to save results in txt file?

2009-07-17 Thread Piter_

   Hi.
   I have found the solution.
   [1]http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/fileexchange/24221
   Best.
   Petro

   On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Piter_ [2]x.pi...@gmail.com wrote:

   Hi all.
   I have results of DC sweep. Can plot it, but cant figure out how
 to
   save it in txt file (tab delimited for example, or other), for
   plotting in something other than ngspice.
   Thanks in advance.
   Petro.
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References

   1. http://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/fileexchange/24221
   2. mailto:x.pi...@gmail.com
   3. mailto:geda-user@moria.seul.org
   4. http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user


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Re: gEDA-user: How to save results in txt file?

2009-07-17 Thread al davis
On Friday 17 July 2009, Piter_ wrote:
 I have results of DC sweep. Can plot it, but cant figure out
 how to save it in txt file (tab delimited for example, or
 other), for plotting in something other than ngspice.


In Gnucap, you direct the the command like a unix command ..

dc R12 10 100k decade 3 the-data-file

The file is whitespace delimited, and can be read by most 
spreadsheets and plot programs.

Spice uses something called a rawfile, which has in its own 
format.  You put -r rawfilename on the command line.  I don't 
know how to directly get a file that works with programs that 
are not specifically written for spice.




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Re: gEDA-user: How to save results in txt file?

2009-07-17 Thread Werner Hoch
Hi Petro,

On Freitag, 17. Juli 2009, Piter_ wrote:
 I have results of DC sweep. Can plot it, but cant figure out how to
 save it in txt file (tab delimited for example, or other), for
 plotting in something other than ngspice.

You can use the ascii format of ngspice:
insert set filetype=ascii into your simulation file.

Or if you're using python you can use my import filters:
http://www.h-renrew.de/h/python_spice/spicedata.html

Or if you're using octave you can use another import filter (not as good 
as the python version)
http://www.h-renrew.de/h/de_spice/de.html

regards
Werner


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gEDA-user: Footprint flags for pad shapes

2009-07-17 Thread Tamas Szabo
Hello,

I found some hint in the land patterns tutorial about the meaning of 
flags for pad shape. But I realized the following:

0x0100 - square (match with .pdf)
0x0900 - square (I found in a QFN package footprint) what shape should 
it be?
0x - rounded (match with .pdf)
0x0800 - rounded (the .pdf says: octogon)

Furthermore, the latter two for x=y seems to be a circle, not a rounded 
square.

Can I create a pad like this?

/\
||
||
||
\/

(Sorry, you may need to view with monospace fonts)

Thanks,

/sza2


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Re: gEDA-user: Footprint flags for pad shapes

2009-07-17 Thread DJ Delorie

 0x0100 - square (match with .pdf)
 0x0900 - square (I found in a QFN package footprint) what shape should 
 it be?
 0x - rounded (match with .pdf)
 0x0800 - rounded (the .pdf says: octogon)

http://pcb.gpleda.org/pcb-cvs/pcb.html#Object-Flags

0x0100 - square (vs round)
0x0800 - octagon

Note that octagon only really applies to vias, not pins or pads.
Don't know why.

Round means circle, not rounded-corners.  When width!=height you get
round-ended lines.

 Can I create a pad like this?

Not with a single pad, no.

If you have the time and want to add support for the octagon flag to
pads, go ahead.  Just beware you have to fix the autorouter and DRC
modules too.


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gEDA-user: Wiki pages

2009-07-17 Thread John Coppens
Hello people.

Once in a while, I have the urge to save a page which seems too useful to
download it every time I need it. I tried to do that with a couple of the
gEDA wiki pages, and found that its format doesn't really allow to do that
(something I didn't notice on other sites - at least it doesn't work
with Firefox 3.0.xx). I may be wrong - I'm not an HTML expert, but I
noticed a couple of issues:

1) The logo has an absolute link:
 http://geda.seul.org//graphics/navlogo.png

2) It seems most of the problems are caused by the ':' in the URL.
   If I do a seach-and-replace (geda: by geda_) all links work in the
   saved page, and all images show (which they didn't before the 
   change). I'm doubtful if the ':' is legal (even though it works).
   Normally a ':' in a URL is the separator between URL and the port.
   (eg. http://my.url.org:8080)

3) This also works for CSS: before the replacement, css files were not
   loaded correctly.

4) Neither CSS validation (2 errors) nor HTML validation (33
   errors) accept that page (geda:gsch2pcb_tutorial). Most are very minor
   errors - but they may contribute to the save problem.

Note this is not criticism, just observing a couple of points which might
improve the usability of the docs. ... and I offer my help if wanted.

John

PS: My workaround is to save it as PDF from the browser - which works
reasonably well, but I prefer HTML.


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Re: gEDA-user: Footprint flags for pad shapes

2009-07-17 Thread Tamas Szabo
DJ Delorie wrote:
 0x0100 - square (match with .pdf)
 0x0900 - square (I found in a QFN package footprint) what shape should 
 it be?
 0x - rounded (match with .pdf)
 0x0800 - rounded (the .pdf says: octogon)
 
 http://pcb.gpleda.org/pcb-cvs/pcb.html#Object-Flags

Thanks!

 
 0x0100 - square (vs round)
 0x0800 - octagon
 
 Note that octagon only really applies to vias, not pins or pads.
 Don't know why.
 
 Round means circle, not rounded-corners.  When width!=height you get
 round-ended lines.
 
 Can I create a pad like this?
 
 Not with a single pad, no.
 
 If you have the time and want to add support for the octagon flag to
 pads, go ahead.  Just beware you have to fix the autorouter and DRC
 modules too.

It isn't really a question of time, but knowledge - I don't want to
break something which already works:-)

 
 
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Re: gEDA-user: Footprint flags for pad shapes

2009-07-17 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Fri, 2009-07-17 at 17:24 +0200, Tamas Szabo wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I found some hint in the land patterns tutorial about the meaning of 
 flags for pad shape. But I realized the following:
 

You may compare with 

http://www.ssalewski.de/PcbFootprintRef.txt

Let me know if something is wrong.

On Fri, 2009-07-17 at 12:07 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote:
 
 Note that octagon only really applies to vias, not pins or pads.
 Don't know why.
 

I think octagon works for pins.

Pin[13922 13922 9055 2000 10255 5118 2 2 octagon]




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gEDA-user: PCB: May inserting new layers destroy my layout?

2009-07-17 Thread Stefan Salewski
OK, maybe a silly question...

Most part of my DSO board is finished now, I have to redraw some traces
and to draw power planes.

It may be a good idea to use more layers, i.e. to divide component
layers in fast and slow signals, and to divide ground in AGND and DGND
with different colors. But for this I have to move layers, and maybe to
insert some new layers.

Is this operation save for latest pcb snapshot pcb version 20081128?

Of course we should assume it is, but I think only a few people will try
this operation. And there was a problem about two years ago when I
started using PCB.

Best regards

Stefan Salewski





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Re: gEDA-user: PCB: May inserting new layers destroy my layout?

2009-07-17 Thread DJ Delorie

The only bug I know of involves moving thermals on vias to the new
layers.  You could build the latest git version just for this
operation.

Of course, save a backup copy of your board *anyway*.


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Re: gEDA-user: PCB: May inserting new layers destroy my layout?

2009-07-17 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Fri, 2009-07-17 at 17:04 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote:
 The only bug I know of involves moving thermals on vias to the new
 layers.  You could build the latest git version just for this
 operation.

OK, now I remember the old bug:

http://www.geda.seul.org/mailinglist/geda-user92/msg00121.html

I guess it is fixed for version 20081128.

 
 Of course, save a backup copy of your board *anyway*.
 
 

Sure -- but some bugs may hide itself, maybe until gerber export.
To be safe I may export gerbers before and after I insert new layers and
compare the gerbers. But of course the gerbers may be identical, while
PCB operation fails after insertion of new layers. It's a dangerous
world...

 



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Re: gEDA-user: PCB: May inserting new layers destroy my layout?

2009-07-17 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:00:42 +0200, Stefan Salewski wrote:

 It may be a good idea to use more layers, i.e. to divide component
 layers in fast and slow signals, and to divide ground in AGND and DGND
 with different colors. But for this I have to move layers, and maybe to
 insert some new layers.

I have done this frequently without problems. (Add ground layers, add 
polygon layers, swap top and bottom layer, ...)

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Re: gEDA-user: Wiki pages

2009-07-17 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:11:03 -0300, John Coppens wrote:

 2) It seems most of the problems are caused by the ':' in the URL.
If I do a seach-and-replace (geda: by geda_) all links work in the
saved page, and all images show (which they didn't before the
change). I'm doubtful if the ':' is legal (even though it works).
Normally a ':' in a URL is the separator between URL and the port.
(eg. http://my.url.org:8080)

Ales might be able to change this. In the advanced settings section of 
the admin there is an option use nice URLs. The colons are produced 
with DokuWiki internal. Use the default setting none to avoid the 
colons.

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