Re: gEDA-user: gedasymbols.org down
On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:26:23 +, Peter Clifton wrote: What about not running the server at home, but collocated at a data center? THat would be somewhat easier to do. A fine suggestion in principle - but someone would have to meet the costs of doing it. The cost for web hosting got rather low in recent years. For 1.50 EUR/ month you get 3 GB space at 10 GB traffic per month (*). Included are many goodies that were once only available from high end providers like, access to mysql, postgress, php, perl and a mail system. Frequently used web applications like the mailman, phpBB, typo3, joomla, wordpress or even mantis are preinstalled. Of course, if you need root access to install binaries, or ssh for maintainance, you still have to go with premium hosting or run your own machine. ---(kaimartin)--- (*) I run run three such domains for my private pleasure :-) -- Kai-Martin Knaak Öffentlicher PGP-Schlüssel: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x6C0B9F53 ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: On integrating simulator in gschem
On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 23:34:17 +0100, Arnaud Gardelein wrote: With the help of Ivan I'm writing a viewer, oscopy (http://repo.or.cz/w/oscopy.git) based draft #4 of this page: http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:data_plotting_improvements IMHO, there are already very mature open source data plotters out there. Think gnuplot, or grace. What is the rationale in rolling your own? Maybe this could be a first start to what is described here: http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:circuit_simulation_improvements Any progress toward the goal described in this draft will be greeted with a big cheer by me! An easily accessible simulation would greatly improve the value of the geda suite. ---(kaimartin)--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Öffentlicher PGP-Schlüssel: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x6C0B9F53 ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: pcb option --layer-stack
On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:17:19 -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: What purpose does it have? It used to be used to build pcb's internal tables of actions etc. Now we use grep in the Makefile. It was never used for documentation. ok. Comments are still specially crafted, but are processed by the perl script in pcb/doc/extract-docs. So the manual should point there for a documentation of the syntax. I don't find a call to the script src/gather-actions anywhere in the source. Is it completely obsolete now? ---(kaimartin)--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Öffentlicher PGP-Schlüssel: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x6C0B9F53 ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: On integrating simulator in gschem
IMHO, there are already very mature open source data plotters out there. Think gnuplot, or grace. There is also Ploticus: http://ploticus.sourceforge.net/doc/welcome.html Not as well known as the two you mention. It does a lot of different style graphs. Also better suited to use on web servers. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: A modest proposal regarding newlib footprints
On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 23:29:36 -0500, Dan McMahill wrote in geda.devel: Stuart Brorson wrote: Since we now have a standard of naming footprints with a .fp suffix, I wonder if now is a good time to load only files ending with .fp into the footprint menu? If enough people like the change, I'll do it, but it might break a few older designs. Any opinions? Why is this discussion in geda.devel, where ordinary users can't write and hardly read? My ordinary user opinion: I'd appreciate such a change. In fact, I find the current list-them-all in the lib window annoying. Perhaps a better way is to scan the files and see if they appear to be footprints based on the contents. Yes, this would be superior. I always frown on the way windows ties file types to extensions. My only real concern there is how long it may take. The file utility comes to mind. It would be nice to let the system be globally aware what the various geda/pcb files are, anyway. ---(kaimartin)--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Öffentlicher PGP-Schlüssel: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x6C0B9F53 ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: pcb option --layer-stack
Comments are still specially crafted, but are processed by the perl script in pcb/doc/extract-docs. No, we're talking about two different things. Some comments are parsed by extract-docs to make the texi files. Some comments are parsed by grep to build .c files. Please don't confuse the two. I don't find a call to the script src/gather-actions anywhere in the source. Is it completely obsolete now? Probably. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: On integrating simulator in gschem
Arnaud Gardelein wrote: Although far from being completed, oscopy support running a netlister and a simulator, I mean there is a menu option FileRun netlister and simulate... where you can specify which command to use. It run both, and then automagically update the loaded signals, recursively for the maths-based ones. A python scripted wave viewer seems good to me. I couldn't get it to run yet though... ./oscopy_ui.py [1] 31087 j...@toolbench:/moredata/src-geda-others/oscopy$ Traceback (most recent call last): File ./oscopy_ui.py, line 14, in module import oscopy File /moredata/src-geda-others/oscopy/oscopy/__init__.py, line 3, in module from figure import Figure File /moredata/src-geda-others/oscopy/oscopy/figure.py, line 45, in module import matplotlib.pyplot as plt ImportError: No module named matplotlib.pyplot ./oscopy_app.py [1] 31094 j...@toolbench:/moredata/src-geda-others/oscopy$ Traceback (most recent call last): File ./oscopy_app.py, line 5, in module import oscopy File /moredata/src-geda-others/oscopy/oscopy/__init__.py, line 3, in module from figure import Figure File /moredata/src-geda-others/oscopy/oscopy/figure.py, line 45, in module import matplotlib.pyplot as plt ImportError: No module named matplotlib.pyplot John -- Ecosensory Austin TX ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: On integrating simulator in gschem
I did not have all the dependencies installed. Will do that and report to gEDA list when I get it. John ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: On integrating simulator in gschem
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 01:27:39PM -0500, John Griessen wrote: A python scripted wave viewer seems good to me. I couldn't get it to run yet though... ./oscopy_ui.py [1] 31087 j...@toolbench:/moredata/src-geda-others/oscopy$ Traceback (most recent call last): File ./oscopy_ui.py, line 14, in module import oscopy File /moredata/src-geda-others/oscopy/oscopy/__init__.py, line 3, in module from figure import Figure File /moredata/src-geda-others/oscopy/oscopy/figure.py, line 45, in module import matplotlib.pyplot as plt ImportError: No module named matplotlib.pyplot The README file lists the following dependencies: * python * python-numpy * python-matplotlib * python-dbus The above error says that Python can't find matplotlib. -- Ivan Stankovic, poke...@fly.srk.fer.hr Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm; ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: Comment Field in Schematic Symbols
Gentlemen - and Ladies if appropriate - Is there a way to incluse comment fields - specifically RCS type tags - in a schematic symbol file? I would like to include my symbols in a CVS structure and want to tag them. Any advice? Thanks Tony Radice ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Comment Field in Schematic Symbols
On Mar 15, 2010, at 6:12 AM, Tony Radice wrote: Gentlemen - and Ladies if appropriate - Is there a way to incluse comment fields - specifically RCS type tags - in a schematic symbol file? I would like to include my symbols in a CVS structure and want to tag them. Any advice? Use invisible attributes, e.g. rcsid=$Id$ etc. John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ j...@noqsi.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Comment Field in Schematic Symbols
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 17:12:51 -0400, Tony Radice wrote: Is there a way to incluse comment fields - specifically RCS type tags - in a schematic symbol file? I would like to include my symbols in a CVS structure and want to tag them. Any advice? You can add attributes with any name to the symbol. Invent a name for a RCS attribute and you are done. The list of attributes given by the dialog in gschem is just a friendly suggestion. ---(kaimartin)--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Öffentlicher PGP-Schlüssel: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x6C0B9F53 ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: getting used to git (almost trivial pcb patch)
On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:24:59 -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: I can't see why it complains, but... maybe cr/lf or whitespace differences, which mail might have munged? I sent the patch via gmane with my favorite usenet client pan. Maybe some munging was done down the road from gmane to the mailing list. A few hours ago I tried to resend the patch with an email client directly to the list. First to geda-user@moria.seul.org, then to geda-u...@seul.org. But the mails don't seem to hit the list. No bounce message, either. What's going on here? Next I'll try with a different usenet client that can do real attachments. ---(kaimartin) -- Kai-Martin Knaak Öffentlicher PGP-Schlüssel: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x6C0B9F53 ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: getting used to git (almost trivial pcb patch)
DJ Delorie wrote:
I can't see why it complains, but... maybe cr/lf or whitespace
differences, which mail might have munged?
This is a resend with the patch attached rather than appended
to the body. Hopefully, there is less munging this way.
---(kaimartin)---
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Kai-Martin Knaak
Öffentlicher PGP-Schlüssel:
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x6C0B9F53From 6f0416253ccd6065c04b520b9add89e166b0a718 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Kai-Martin Knaak k...@lilalaser.de
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:52:09 +0100
Subject: [PATCH] replaces pcb.sourceforge.net with pcb.gpleda.org
---
README |5 ++---
doc/pcb.texi |5 ++---
src/main.c |2 +-
win32/Readme.txt |3 +--
4 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
diff --git a/README b/README
index be006fd..9b9da9a 100644
--- a/README
+++ b/README
@@ -6,9 +6,8 @@ For additional information read the manual (doc/pcb.pdf)
If you are updating you may wish to read the ChangeLog
-There is also a bug tracking system and user forum available
-on the sourceforge project page which can be found from
-http://pcb.sourceforge.net.
+There is also a bug tracking system available which can
+be found from http://pcb.gpleda.org.
-
diff --git a/doc/pcb.texi b/doc/pcb.texi
index b1adb89..2eeaeb0 100644
--- a/doc/pcb.texi
+++ b/doc/pcb.texi
@@ -5274,9 +5274,8 @@ Centroid (X-Y) data for driving automated assembly equipment.
@cindex xcircuit, how to interface with
If anyone cares to contribute this section, it will get added. Please
-submit changes to the bug tracking system at the sourceforge project
-page for PCB which can be found from the PCB homepage at
-...@url{http://pcb.sourceforge.net}.
+submit changes to the bug tracking system for PCB which can be found from
+the PCB homepage at @url{http://pcb.gpleda.org}.
@c --- Appendix A ---
diff --git a/src/main.c b/src/main.c
index a0b38f3..b25093e 100644
--- a/src/main.c
+++ b/src/main.c
@@ -246,7 +246,7 @@ usage (void)
n_exporter++;
}
- u (PCB Printed Circuit Board editing program, http://pcb.sourceforge.net;);
+ u (PCB Printed Circuit Board editing program, http://pcb.gpleda.org;);
u (%s [-h|-V|--copyright]\t\t\tHelp, version, copyright, Progname);
u (%s [gui options] pcb file\t\tto edit, Progname);
u (Available GUI hid%s:, n_gui == 1 ? : s);
diff --git a/win32/Readme.txt b/win32/Readme.txt
index 7d73a68..93273a4 100644
--- a/win32/Readme.txt
+++ b/win32/Readme.txt
@@ -4,8 +4,7 @@
This is the windows port of the pcb printed circuit board
layout editor.
-Please visit http://pcb.sourceforge.net for more information
-about PCB.
+Please visit http://pcb.gpleda.org for more information about PCB.
The windows port makes use of GTK+ for windows. Please visit
http://www.gtk.org for more information about GTK. Without all the hard
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Re: gEDA-user: A modest proposal regarding newlib footprints
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 5:54 AM, Kai-Martin Knaak k...@familieknaak.de wrote: Why is this discussion in geda.devel, where ordinary users can't write and hardly read? Is there any way to allow read-only subscriptions to geda-dev for those of us interested to read what is going on in a more convenient way than the archive? Jared ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: A modest proposal regarding newlib footprints
Jared Casper wrote: Is there any way to allow read-only subscriptions to geda-dev for those of us interested to read what is going on in a more convenient way than the archive? I read the devel list via gmane (gmane.comp.cad.geda.devel) Gmane is a service that transfers mailinglists to usenet-protocol and back. Since usenet readers are optimized for threaded discussions with many participants, they are convenient for mailing lists. See http://gmane.org for details. On linux I'd recommend knode as a reader. But thunderbird or any other email client that can deal with the NNTP protocol might be just fine, too. ---(kaimartin)--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Öffentlicher PGP-Schlüssel: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x6C0B9F53 ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: On integrating simulator in gschem
Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 23:34:17 +0100, Arnaud Gardelein wrote: With the help of Ivan I'm writing a viewer, oscopy (http://repo.or.cz/w/oscopy.git) based draft #4 of this page: http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:data_plotting_improvements IMHO, there are already very mature open source data plotters out there. Think gnuplot, or grace. What is the rationale in rolling your own? unless I'm missing some key feature of gnuplot and grace, they stink for plotting simulator output. I spend a *lot* of time looking at simulator output and some of the things which are used over and over again are easy interactive zoom in/out, panning at a fixed zoom, putting cursors on waveforms that will lock onto the actual datapoints, having delta cursors, and having a flexible and *extensible* waveform calculator. The types of postprocessing range from the very simple (out_plus - out-minus) to more complex but standard like an fft to fairly complex custom functions. My experience with things like gnuplot, matlab, octave (which uses gnuplot), scilab, grace, etc. is that they are no where nearly as interactive as you'd really like for efficiently processing and interacting with simulator data. Also, I'm not sure if any of these plotting tools provide some of the other important features like the ability to define custom grid lines (think Smith chart, Nichols chart, and I have at least one that as far as I know only I use). Another important feature in a general purpose simulation waveform viewer is to be able to define custom cursor readout transformations. Again, a good example is a Smith chart. You might like to have the cursor readout tell you reflection coefficient but you might prefer normalized impedance, or perhaps resistance plus inductance/capacitance, etc. I've seen commercial tools that have some predefined grids like rectangular, polar, smith but so far none have taken it to the next level of letting you add custom ones or the custom readout. So I'd say that especially in the opensource area, a good waveform viewer is not reinventing the wheel. It is time to make a round one instead of the existing square ones! -Dan ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: On integrating simulator in gschem
I've seen commercial tools that have some predefined grids like rectangular, polar, smith but so far none have taken it to the next level of letting you add custom ones or the custom readout. Just in case you missed it - qucs has a number of plotting outputs including a Smith chart. I don't recall how good it is in terms of the interactivity with datapoints on the various graphs. Geoff ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
