Re: gEDA-user: Use of Alt+Mouse1 (was: Next problem, PCB looses rats)
On tis, 2010-06-15 at 01:33 +, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: On Tue, 08 Jun 2010 00:32:09 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: Do we use alt for anything else? Would alt-click interfere with window managers? Metacity / compiz have that as a short-cut for dragging windows around. With metacity this is configurable: MainMenu - System - Windows - MovementKey This setting can be either Alt, or Super (Windows logo) I don't know about compiz but expect it to be configurable , too. If the proposed modified drag is caught with some settings of some window managers then the affected users are in the same situation like now. Everybody else would gain a shortcut to a frequently needed action. All the window managers i have used have all used Alt+Mouse1 for dragging windows around by default, but most of them have the option of reconfiguring this. The ones i have used (and remember now) are: fluxbox, evilwm, ratpoison, metacity, compiz /Jonatan ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: pcb: print bottom side with top silk
Hi. Is there a way to print the bottom side with top silk mirrored? I mean, something like see-through from the bottom side of the board. This would come handy for perfboard prototyping. BTW, I uploaded a perfboard footprint to gedasymbols. http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/kai_martin_knaak/footprints/misc/lochraster2.fp This is meant to compensate for the inability to print the grid. ---)kaimartin(--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover http://www.iqo.uni-hannover.de GPG key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=Knaak+kmkop=get ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Garbage drawn outside of pcb board area
On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 00:16 +0200, Krzysztof Kościuszkiewicz wrote: On Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 09:14:12PM +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: You were right - it seems the driver is at fault... It wasn't always like that so I'll try to track down what change broke the rendering. It might not be the driver's fault if I'm doing evil things like making GL calls out of valid context setup. (Which I was). You were right, I have to retract the statement about the driver's fault. Gah - good catch! I'll roll that code change into my patches when I get chance. It begs the question why the code appears to render OK on the software driver, Intel driver, .. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask for me) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: git HEAD PCB now supports user-defined holes in polygons
On Wed, 2010-06-09 at 12:27 +0200, Levente Kovacs wrote: On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 00:38:16 +0100 Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk wrote: git HEAD PCB now supports user-defined holes in polygons Hi Peter, This feature is cool. Thank you for implementing it. I found that it makes a funny thing when you move a cutout corner outside the polygon. Yes, the legality checking of such polygons isn't very good. This stems from the fact PCB's existing legality checking for user-defined polygons is really quite poor. (It lets you draw / drag to make polygons it will then assert() or crash on if built with full debugging). I wish we could define pads as polygons, so with this feature any kind of pads could be implemented. Solder-mask cut outs would be nice too. That would be quite neat - it probably requires some file format additions. For now, I believe (aside from in my pours branches where the feature is disabled), you can draw rectangular pads with the rect polygon tool. Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask for me) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: pcb: print bottom side with top silk
Very good idea - if not implemented, this is definitely worth it. Good for prototyping and repairing etched boards with routing errors... Btw. the text should stay unmirrored in its mirrored bounding box. Armin Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: Hi. Is there a way to print the bottom side with top silk mirrored? I mean, something like see-through from the bottom side of the board. This would come handy for perfboard prototyping. BTW, I uploaded a perfboard footprint to gedasymbols. http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/kai_martin_knaak/footprints/misc/lochraster2.fp This is meant to compensate for the inability to print the grid. ---)kaimartin(--- ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Use of Alt+Mouse1 (was: Next problem, PCB looses rats)
Jonatan Åkerlind wrote: All the window managers i have used have all used Alt+Mouse1 for dragging windows around by default, Ok, then. Let's take the key with the windows logo, or AltGr, or the key with the menu to the right of the right windows key. :-) ---)kaimartin(--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Öffentlicher PGP-Schlüssel: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x6C0B9F53 ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Use of Alt+Mouse1 (was: Next problem, PCB looses rats)
Ok, then. Let's take the key with the windows logo, or AltGr, or the key with the menu to the right of the right windows key. :-) My keyboard doesn't have any of those keys... ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Use of Alt+Mouse1 (was: Next problem, PCB looses rats)
Maybe it's time to travel into 2010. On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:51 AM, DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com wrote: Ok, then. Let's take the key with the windows logo, or AltGr, or the key with the menu to the right of the right windows key. :-) My keyboard doesn't have any of those keys... ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Use of Alt+Mouse1 (was: Next problem, PCB looses rats)
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Re: gEDA-user: Use of Alt+Mouse1 (was: Next problem, PCB looses rats)
Maybe it's time to travel into 2010. I don't run Windows. Why would I need Windows-specific keys? ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Use of Alt+Mouse1 (was: Next problem, PCB looses rats)
On Jun 15, 2010, at 7:22 PM, timecop wrote: Maybe it's time to travel into 2010. On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:51 AM, DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com wrote: Ok, then. Let's take the key with the windows logo, or AltGr, or the key with the menu to the right of the right windows key. :-) My keyboard doesn't have any of those keys... Mine doesn't have any either, and it was made this year. Your point? ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Use of Alt+Mouse1
Travel into 2010 with a Windows key? Are you for real? -Dave On 6/15/10 10:22 PM, timecop wrote: Maybe it's time to travel into 2010. On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:51 AM, DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com wrote: Ok, then. Let's take the key with the windows logo, or AltGr, or the key with the menu to the right of the right windows key. :-) My keyboard doesn't have any of those keys... ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user -- Dave McGuire Port Charlotte, FL ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Use of Alt+Mouse1
Number of keyboards shipped in a year with Windows keys vs no Windows keys are probably somewhat directly related to the market share of Windows-running machines vs Lunix-running toyboxes. On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Dave McGuire mcgu...@neurotica.com wrote: Travel into 2010 with a Windows key? Are you for real? -Dave On 6/15/10 10:22 PM, timecop wrote: Maybe it's time to travel into 2010. On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:51 AM, DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com wrote: Ok, then. Let's take the key with the windows logo, or AltGr, or the key with the menu to the right of the right windows key. :-) My keyboard doesn't have any of those keys... ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user -- Dave McGuire Port Charlotte, FL ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Use of Alt+Mouse1
Wow. You're really looking to start arguments… Sent via BlackBerry® from Vodafone -Original Message- From: timecop time...@gmail.com Sender: geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 12:10:52 To: gEDA user mailing listgeda-user@moria.seul.org Reply-To: gEDA user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Use of Alt+Mouse1 Number of keyboards shipped in a year with Windows keys vs no Windows keys are probably somewhat directly related to the market share of Windows-running machines vs Lunix-running toyboxes. On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Dave McGuire mcgu...@neurotica.com wrote: Travel into 2010 with a Windows key? Are you for real? -Dave On 6/15/10 10:22 PM, timecop wrote: Maybe it's time to travel into 2010. On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:51 AM, DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com wrote: Ok, then. Let's take the key with the windows logo, or AltGr, or the key with the menu to the right of the right windows key. :-) My keyboard doesn't have any of those keys... ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user -- Dave McGuire Port Charlotte, FL ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Use of Alt+Mouse1
On 6/15/10 11:10 PM, timecop wrote: Number of keyboards shipped in a year with Windows keys vs no Windows keys are probably somewhat directly related to the market share of Windows-running machines vs Lunix-running toyboxes. Honestly, Timecop, we already know you're an idiot. You don't have to keep proving it to us over and over. -Dave -- Dave McGuire Port Charlotte, FL ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Use of Alt+Mouse1
*I* am?? -Dave On 6/15/10 11:38 PM, shinobi.j...@gmail.com wrote: Wow. You're really looking to start arguments… Sent via BlackBerry® from Vodafone -Original Message- From: timecoptime...@gmail.com Sender: geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 12:10:52 To: gEDA user mailing listgeda-user@moria.seul.org Reply-To: gEDA user mailing listgeda-user@moria.seul.org Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Use of Alt+Mouse1 Number of keyboards shipped in a year with Windows keys vs no Windows keys are probably somewhat directly related to the market share of Windows-running machines vs Lunix-running toyboxes. On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Dave McGuiremcgu...@neurotica.com wrote: Travel into 2010 with a Windows key? Are you for real? -Dave On 6/15/10 10:22 PM, timecop wrote: Maybe it's time to travel into 2010. On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:51 AM, DJ Deloried...@delorie.com wrote: Ok, then. Let's take the key with the windows logo, or AltGr, or the key with the menu to the right of the right windows key. :-) My keyboard doesn't have any of those keys... ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user -- Dave McGuire Port Charlotte, FL ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user -- Dave McGuire Port Charlotte, FL ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Use of Alt+Mouse1
Bahahhahah! No. :P Not referring to you at all. My response was targeted at timecop. Apologies if it my aim was off... *I* am?? -Dave On 6/15/10 11:38 PM, [1]shinobi.j...@gmail.com wrote: Wow. You're really looking to start arguments Sent via BlackBerry® from Vodafone References 1. mailto:shinobi.j...@gmail.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Use of Alt+Mouse1
No worries. That guy has a history of pushing peoples' buttons here. One day, someone's going to find out where he lives. (my money's on his mother's basement) -Dave On 6/16/10 12:54 AM, Geoff Swan wrote: Bahahhahah! No. :P Not referring to you at all. My response was targeted at timecop. Apologies if it my aim was off... *I* am?? -Dave On 6/15/10 11:38 PM, shinobi.j...@gmail.com mailto:shinobi.j...@gmail.com wrote: Wow. You're really looking to start arguments… Sent via BlackBerry® from Vodafone -- Dave McGuire Port Charlotte, FL ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
