Re: gEDA-user: Honey, I shrunk the schematic
Rick Collins wrote: Why do you need to use any standard sizes on a computer? Using Orcad, I start with a size that I have chosen as my standard and if I end up needing a bit more room for a given page, I just bump up the dimensions a nudge while keeping the same aspect ratio. In gschem you are not even bound to nudges. My default title block is deliberately just that -- a title block with no fixed frame. http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/kai_martin_knaak/symbols/titleblock/title-block.sym If I want a frame for printing, I just draw a rectangle that fits the schematic. BTW, this title block features predefined attributes for the whole schematic. These can be changed from within the GUI like any other attribute. but I don't think I've printed a schematic on paper in two years. I find printed copies indispensable when working with other people. Nothing beats the flexibility of good old pencil sketches. Can't TinyCAD work with arbitrary page sizes? TinyCAD? ---)kaimartin(--- PS: Does this mail render fine with your mail client? -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover http://www.iqo.uni-hannover.de GPG key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=Knaak+kmkop=get ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Honey, I shrunk the schematic
At 03:07 PM 8/23/2010, you wrote: Rick Collins wrote: Why do you need to use any standard sizes on a computer? Using Orcad, I start with a size that I have chosen as my standard and if I end up needing a bit more room for a given page, I just bump up the dimensions a nudge while keeping the same aspect ratio. In gschem you are not even bound to nudges. My default title block is deliberately just that -- a title block with no fixed frame. http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/kai_martin_knaak/symbols/titleblock/title-block.sym If I want a frame for printing, I just draw a rectangle that fits the schematic. BTW, this title block features predefined attributes for the whole schematic. These can be changed from within the GUI like any other attribute. but I don't think I've printed a schematic on paper in two years. I find printed copies indispensable when working with other people. Nothing beats the flexibility of good old pencil sketches. Can't TinyCAD work with arbitrary page sizes? TinyCAD? ---)kaimartin(--- PS: Does this mail render fine with your mail client? -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover http://www.iqo.uni-hannover.de GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=Knaak+kmkop=get ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user TinyCAD... I guess I forgot which list I was on. I use FreePCB and Orcad and am planning to switch to a different schematic package sometime... maybe. So I am looking at TinyCAD as well as some others. I'm actually here because I am using Gerbv. It has some display issues, but in some draw modes they aren't apparent so I can switch to see what are design issues and what are viewer issues. Gerbv is such an easier to use tool than GCpreview there is no comparison. But I have to use both to be sure of what I am seeing sometimes. BTW, to whoever took the time to port Gerbv to Windows, thanks a lot! We non-developer types appreciate it. No, as you can see above, your reply is all run together. I also have this problem with one poster in the ZPU mail list. He says it is Eudora, but I only have the problem with two or three posters. Go figure! Do computers EVER just WORK??? Rick ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Honey, I shrunk the schematic
Hi, On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 15:19 -0400, Rick Collins wrote: No, as you can see above, your reply is all run together. I also have this problem with one poster in the ZPU mail list. He says it is Eudora, but I only have the problem with two or three posters. Go figure! Do computers EVER just WORK??? I suspect this is due to Kai-Martin's emails being base64 encoded. Viewing the message source in evolution shows everyone's emails in plain text except for his, which have the header Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64. I don't know if you've already seen this message[1] but it seems you're not the only one experiencing this problem. Richard [1] http://groups.google.com/group/comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows/browse_thread/thread/7a4e64bb565870c9 ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Honey, I shrunk the schematic
On 8/23/10 3:19 PM, Rick Collins wrote: Do computers EVER just WORK??? Windows users tend to ask this a lot. -Dave -- Dave McGuire Port Charlotte, FL ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Honey, I shrunk the schematic
In gschem you are not even bound to nudges. My default title block is deliberately just that -- a title block with no fixed frame. http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/kai_martin_knaak/symbols/titleblock/title-block.sym If I want a frame for printing, I just draw a rectangle that fits the schematic. Thanks-- that's an awesome tip! (Should go in an FAQ, somewhere.) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Honey, I shrunk the schematic
At 03:34 PM 8/23/2010, you wrote: On 8/23/10 3:19 PM, Rick Collins wrote: Do computers EVER just WORK??? Windows users tend to ask this a lot. -Dave :) LOL! ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Shrinking components in gschem ?
Mark Rages wrote: if you really want to scale components, I have a script at http://vivara.net to scale / rotate gschem components. ^ This URL gives me: Unable to load page Problem occurred while loading the URL http://vivara.net/ Cannot connect to destination Maybe a typo? ---)kaiamrtin(--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover http://www.iqo.uni-hannover.de GPG key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=Knaak+kmkop=get ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Shrinking components in gschem ?
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak kn...@iqo.uni-hannover.de wrote: Mark Rages wrote: if you really want to scale components, I have a script at http://vivara.net to scale / rotate gschem components. ^ This URL gives me: Unable to load page Problem occurred while loading the URL http://vivara.net/ Cannot connect to destination Maybe a typo? ---)kaiamrtin(--- sigh. It means my ISP forgot they promised me a static IP. The page should be back up as soon as DNS propogates. Regards, Mark markra...@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC markra...@midwesttelecine.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Shrinking components in gschem ?
Simon Clubley wrote: In the end, I went with the bigger title sheet suggestion and after experimenting, I found the A2 sheet to be the ideal size for me. I added a note in the wiki: http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:faq-gschem#how_can_i_shrink_symbols --)kaimartin(--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover http://www.iqo.uni-hannover.de GPG key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=Knaak+kmkop=get ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: gEDA beginners questions about gschem-programming
Stephen Thomas wrote: But i want to go further than that. -v, please. What do you want to achieve? 1. Can u guide me ..At least tell me where to look at ..what method i should approach??? 2.can i use some packages like glade for GUI design?? IIRC, no GUI-IDE was involved to develop the GUI of gschem. 3.I think the first thing for me is to compile the package from the sources in my machine and then edit little by little Am i rite?? ack. 4.Is there any way to get a glimpse of how the source code is all organised , typical functions explanations etc etc from some document??? There is an effort to use doxygen for documentation. See http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:devel-tips Some parts of the source is already thoroughly doxyfied, others still lack this kind of documentation. I don't know about the state of the gschem source. ---)kaimartin(--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover http://www.iqo.uni-hannover.de GPG key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=Knaak+kmkop=get ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: wishful UI (was: New icon set and UI changes)
I just read this, and had to think on the UI discussion going on here: [1]http://www.sububi.org/2010/08/18/free-interaction-design-for-your-op en-source-project/ We should also think on the smaller applications beside PCB and gschem. Im sure everyone here could name some programmes in the geda suite which have a gui that (s)he isn't very happy about. -- Stefan References 1. http://www.sububi.org/2010/08/18/free-interaction-design-for-your-open-source-project/ ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: Ricks email client (was: Honey, I shrunk the schematic)
Richard Barlow wrote: I suspect this is due to Kai-Martin's emails being base64 encoded. Viewing the message source in evolution shows everyone's emails in plain text except for his, which have the header Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64. I just changed the transfer encoding setting in my client for posting from allow 8 bit to 7 bit (quoted printable). Is there any difference with this reply? If so, then something on Ricks side is to blame. Transfer encoding base64 has been around before the internet hit the streets. Ok, this should be enough blurb to see, if the setting did anything useful. I don't know if you've already seen this message[1] but it seems you're not the only one experiencing this problem. Richard [1] http://groups.google.com/group/comp.mail.eudora.ms- windows/browse_thread/thread/7a4e64bb565870c9 Does Rick use eudora? ---)kaimartin(--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Öffentlicher PGP-Schlüssel: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x6C0B9F53 ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Ricks email client (was: Honey, I shrunk the schematic)
At 09:14 PM 8/23/2010, you wrote: Richard Barlow wrote: I suspect this is due to Kai-Martin's emails being base64 encoded. Viewing the message source in evolution shows everyone's emails in plain text except for his, which have the header Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64. I just changed the transfer encoding setting in my client for posting from allow 8 bit to 7 bit (quoted printable). Is there any difference with this reply? If so, then something on Ricks side is to blame. Transfer encoding base64 has been around before the internet hit the streets. Ok, this should be enough blurb to see, if the setting did anything useful. I don't know if you've already seen this message[1] but it seems you're not the only one experiencing this problem. Richard [1] http://groups.google.com/group/comp.mail.eudora.ms- windows/browse_thread/thread/7a4e64bb565870c9 Does Rick use eudora? ---)kaimartin(--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Ãffentlicher PGP-Schlüssel: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x6C0B9F53 ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user No change. It is still all run together. Rick ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Honey, I shrunk the schematic
Windell H. Oskay wrote: Thanks-- that's an awesome tip! (Should go in an FAQ, somewhere.) done. :-) ---)kaimartin(--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Öffentlicher PGP-Schlüssel: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x6C0B9F53 ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Ricks email client
Rick Collins wrote: windows/browse_thread/thread/7a4e64bb565870c9 Does Rick use eudora? ---)kaimartin(--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Ãffentlicher PGP-Schlüssel: ^^^ looks like your client messes all non ascii characters http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getamp;search=0x6C0B9F53 ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user-3olirty5fqqavzljymc...@public.gmane.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user No change. It is still all run together. The header of my posting still said Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 although I had it cnfigured to send quoted printable. Maybe my news reader needs to be restarted to activate the change. That's what I did now. If there still is no change, it must be gmane munging header and encoding. ---)kaimartin(--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Öffentlicher PGP-Schlüssel: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x6C0B9F53 ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Ricks email client (was: Honey, I shrunk the schematic)
Rick Collins wrote: ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user-3olirty5fqqavzljymc...@public.gmane.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user No change. It is still all run together. Last trial: Now I told my client to refrain from changing the encoding on reply. I already checked in regular usenet groups that my client can send quoted printable... ---)kaimartin(--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Öffentlicher PGP-Schlüssel: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x6C0B9F53 ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Ricks email client
On Aug 23, 2010, at 9:23 PM, kai-martin knaak wrote: If there still is no change, it must be gmane munging header and encoding. Still in base64. Raw text of your message reads: UmljayBDb2xsaW5zIHdyb3RlOgoKPj53aW5kb3dzL2Jyb3dzZV90aHJlYWQvdGhyZWFkLzdhNGU2 NGJiNTY1ODcwYzkgCj4+RG9lcyBSaWNrIHVzZSBldWRvcmE/IC0tLTwpa2FpbWFydGluKD4tLS0g LS0gCj4+S2FpLU1hcnRpbiBLbmFhayDDg8KtZmZlbnRsaWNoZXIgUEdQLVNjaGzDg8K8c3NlbDoK ICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgIF4gICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgIF5eCmxvb2tzIGxpa2UgeW91 ciBjbGllbnQgbWVzc2VzIGFsbCBub24gYXNjaWkgY2hhcmFjdGVycwoKPj5odHRwOi8vcGdwLm1p dC5lZHU6MTEzNzEvcGtzL2xvb2t1cD9vcD1nZXQmYW1wO3NlYXJjaD0weDZDMEI5RjUzCj4+X19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18gCj4+Z2VkYS11c2Vy IG1haWxpbmcgbGlzdCBnZWRhLXVzZXItM09MaXJ0eTVmcXFBdlpManltQ1FMZ0BwdWJsaWMuZ21h bmUub3JnIAo+Pmh0dHA6Ly93d3cuc2V1bC5vcmcvY2dpLWJpbi9tYWlsbWFuL2xpc3RpbmZvL2dl ZGEtdXNlcgo+IAo+IE5vIGNoYW5nZS4gIEl0IGlzIHN0aWxsIGFsbCBydW4gdG9nZXRoZXIuCgpU aGUgaGVhZGVyIG9mIG15IHBvc3Rpbmcgc3RpbGwgc2FpZCAKCUNvbnRlbnQtVHJhbnNmZXItRW5j b2Rpbmc6ICAgYmFzZTY0CmFsdGhvdWdoIEkgaGFkIGl0IGNuZmlndXJlZCB0byBzZW5kIHF1b3Rl ZCBwcmludGFibGUuIE1heWJlIG15IG5ld3MgcmVhZGVyIApuZWVkcyB0byBiZSByZXN0YXJ0ZWQg dG8gYWN0aXZhdGUgdGhlIGNoYW5nZS4gVGhhdCdzIHdoYXQgSSBkaWQgbm93LiBJZiAKdGhlcmUg c3RpbGwgaXMgbm8gY2hhbmdlLCBpdCBtdXN0IGJlIGdtYW5lIG11bmdpbmcgaGVhZGVyIGFuZCBl bmNvZGluZy4KCi0tLTwpa2FpbWFydGluKD4tLS0KLS0gCkthaS1NYXJ0aW4gS25hYWsKw5ZmZmVu dGxpY2hlciBQR1AtU2NobMO8c3NlbDoKaHR0cDovL3BncC5taXQuZWR1OjExMzcxL3Brcy9sb29r dXA/b3A9Z2V0JnNlYXJjaD0weDZDMEI5RjUzCgoKCl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fCmdlZGEtdXNlciBtYWlsaW5nIGxpc3QKZ2VkYS11c2VyQG1v cmlhLnNldWwub3JnCmh0dHA6Ly93d3cuc2V1bC5vcmcvY2dpLWJpbi9tYWlsbWFuL2xpc3RpbmZv L2dlZGEtdXNlcgo= John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ j...@noqsi.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Ricks email client
At 11:23 PM 8/23/2010, you wrote: Rick Collins wrote: windows/browse_thread/thread/7a4e64bb565 870c9 Does Rick use eudora? ---)kaimartin(--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak ÃÂffentlicher PGP-Schlüssel:^ ^^ looks like your client messes all non ascii characters http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup? op=getamp;search=0x6C0B9F53 __ _ geda-user mailing list geda-user-3olirty5fqqavzljymc...@public.gmane.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user No change. It is still all run together. The header of my posting still saidContent-Transfer-Encoding: base64 although I had it cnfigured to send quoted printable. Maybe my news reader needs to be restarted to activate the change. That's what I did now. If there still is no change, it must be gmane munging header and encoding. ---)kaimartin(--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Ãffentlicher PGP-Schlüssel: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x6C0B9F53 ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user Same... Rick ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Ricks email client (was: Honey, I shrunk the schematic)
Now that looks better! If only I could get Ãyvind Harboe on the ZPU mailing list to fix his end. But that list has been pretty quiet for a while. Rick At 11:37 PM 8/23/2010, you wrote: Rick Collins wrote: ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user-3olirty5fqqavzljymc...@public.gmane.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user No change. It is still all run together. Last trial: Now I told my client to refrain from changing the encoding on reply. I already checked in regular usenet groups that my client can send quoted printable... ---)kaimartin(--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Öffentlicher PGP-Schlüssel: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x6C0B9F53 ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
