gEDA-user: new vhd2vl on its way

2010-11-17 Thread Larry Doolittle
Friends -

I have a new release of vhd2vl pretty much ready to post.
If any existing user wants a preview -- especially to check for
regressions -- contact me by private email in the next 48 hours.
Sorry Steve Wilson, still no VHDL package support.  :-(

Changes 2.3 to 2.4 (XXX incomplete, do not distribute!!!) (Larry Doolittle, 
November 2010)

Grammar:
  * Drop DOS-style returns at end of comments
  * Allow FLOAT in expressions (maybe a mistake)
  * fixed regression in "others" handling since 2.1
  (the following were submitted by Shankar Giri)
  * Verilog 2001 module declaration (select at runtime with -g2001)
  * named generate block support for XST compatibility
  * support for array of vectors
  * some generic enhancements on architecture body

Coding:
  * CLI enhancement (added more switches)
  * factor out push_clkedge(), pull_clkedge()
  * fully const-correct  (XXX remove strdup, use error-checking)
  * minor whitespace and coding style cleanup

   - Larry


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Re: gEDA-user: New branch of PCB

2010-11-17 Thread Rick Collins

I guess I didn't realize PCB was mainly for hobby use...  WHAT???

Rick


At 06:09 AM 11/16/2010, you wrote:

With TopoR having a freeware version for 2 layers and up to 256 nets
(or some other fairly high for 'hobby' use limitation), there's not
really any point on bothering improving built in autorouter...
Does PCB have Specctra DSN/SES export/import? Just use that (or
implement if it doesn't) and then use any of the autorouters that
work.

-tc

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Jan Martinek  wrote:
> On 11/15/2010 09:24 PM, Stephen Ecob wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Kai-Martin Knaak
>>   wrote:
>>>
>>> Stephen Ecob wrote:
>>>
 Motivation
 Having laid out a couple of boards with PCB 20091103 I became aware of
 some bugs in the autorouter that made the job difficult:
>>>
>>> Are you talking about the default auto router. Or is this about the
>>> shiny,
>>> new "toporouter"?
>>
>> I'm talking about the default auto router.
>>
>
> Oh, that's a pity. But are there any common parts of source code which both
> routers share? I mean - if you fix some bug in default auto router, will
> that fix the same bug in toporouter?
>
> I suppose that if Anthony Blake finishes his toporouter someday, all effort
> for improvement the default autorouter may be pointless. Toporouter's
> algorithm is really better, but there are "failed asserts" sometimes.
>
> Jan Martinek
>
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Re: gEDA-user: STEP Format? [WAS: Re: PCB+GL+3D Packages??]

2010-11-17 Thread Peter Clifton
On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 18:01 -0600, John Griessen wrote:

> I put an example with rectangular solid, cylinder and some lines in a 
> triangle at
> http://ecosensory.com/diybio/pcb-testing.zip

I'm not sure there is any colour information in any of the files, but to
me it would seem that the order of ease in processing would be:

stl (very nice)
iges (simple format, but I have no clue what the syntax is ;))
STEP (_utterly_ evil format).

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Re: gEDA-user: STEP Format? [WAS: Re: PCB+GL+3D Packages??]

2010-11-17 Thread John Griessen

On 11/17/2010 12:50 PM, Peter Clifton wrote:

Can someone send me a handful of __SIMPLE__ geometric models in a STEP
format (readable text?), so I can get a feel for what I'd be letting
myself in for?



I put an example with rectangular solid, cylinder and some lines in a triangle 
at
http://ecosensory.com/diybio/pcb-testing.zip

It unzips to make a dir with this:

j...@toolbench:~/EEProjects/junk$ ls pcb-testing
pcb-example.heeks  pcb-example.iges  pcb-example.opencamlib.py  
pcb-example.step  pcb-example.stl

John
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Re: gEDA-user: STEP Format? [WAS: Re: PCB+GL+3D Packages??]

2010-11-17 Thread John Griessen

On 11/17/2010 04:00 PM, Armin Faltl wrote:


If we need only a hand full of primitives to describe our parts, IGES is 
probably
much easier and does the job. It's understood by practically all systems that
understand STEP, and some, that don't understand STEP.


Yes,  HeeksCAD and many others can use IGES.

JG


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Re: gEDA-user: STEP Format? [WAS: Re: PCB+GL+3D Packages??]

2010-11-17 Thread Armin Faltl

Peter Clifton wrote:

On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 10:09 -0600, John Griessen wrote:
  

On 11/14/2010 08:37 PM, Peter Clifton wrote:


3. What format would people like to make models in?
  

STEP, so I can load it in HeeksCAD and use HeeksCNC to carve enclosures.



Step looks obscenely complicated, and I'm not really sure what subset we
can support.
  
If we need only a hand full of primitives to describe our parts, IGES is 
probably
much easier and does the job. It's understood by practically all systems 
that

understand STEP, and some, that don't understand STEP.


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gEDA-user: STEP Format? [WAS: Re: PCB+GL+3D Packages??]

2010-11-17 Thread Peter Clifton
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 10:09 -0600, John Griessen wrote:
> On 11/14/2010 08:37 PM, Peter Clifton wrote:
> > 3. What format would people like to make models in?
> STEP, so I can load it in HeeksCAD and use HeeksCNC to carve enclosures.

Step looks obscenely complicated, and I'm not really sure what subset we
can support.

Can someone send me a handful of __SIMPLE__ geometric models in a STEP
format (readable text?), so I can get a feel for what I'd be letting
myself in for?

I'm wondering if STEP to VRML might be nicer, as VRML should be a lot
easier to parse.

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Peter Clifton

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Engineering Department,
University of Cambridge,
9, JJ Thomson Avenue,
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