Re: gEDA-user: Random thoughts on the future interface of PCB
On Thu, Dec 09, 2010 at 09:55:37PM +1100, Stephen Ecob wrote: I'm *very* unsure of is whether we could raise enough to make a difference. Does anyone have any idea of how many of us make commercial use of gEDA ? Hi, I am completly new in gEDA(like few days). I am indend to use gEDA for commercial use. I work for a commpany developing PCBs and we are about to switch from our current PCB developement suite and use gEDA instead. I personaly like gEDAs designa a lot, but some of my colleague feel a bit different way. We are still in a phase of testing this software. As some of you probably noticed, I started a fork of PCB. As there are some issues which have to be solved before we can really start using this software. I intend to keep a fork with nesesary changes and push the changes upstream later. This way it doesn't bother me much, that pushing upstream is a bit problematic as I have just read. But to the point in this discussion. When we start to use this EDA software fully in our bussines, we will come to some shortcoming of this software and we intend to fix them or pay for having them fixed. But this will happend not before few months from now. I hope I have not offended anyone by starting a fork. I intend to push everything to upstream as soon as possible. Actually there are still no my patches, they will probably appear in few days as I come to bugs. Martin Kupec ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Random thoughts on the future interface of PCB
On Sat, 2010-12-11 at 10:53 +0100, Martin Kupec wrote: As some of you probably noticed, I started a fork of PCB. Nope.. but since you thought we might notice.. I presume it is a git branch somewhere... repo.or.cz or github? As there are some issues which have to be solved before we can really start using this software. I intend to keep a fork with nesesary changes and push the changes upstream later. This way it doesn't bother me much, that pushing upstream is a bit problematic as I have just read. Well, don't forget to raise the issues here - you might find you get some of them fixed for free ;) Fixing issues affecting everyone benefits everyone. If they are very complex to fix, sponsoring someone with the required know-how to fix them might speed up the process of course. Which bits of gEDA are you using? gschem, PCB, xgsch2pcb? I presume on a Linux desktop. Anyway, if you have problems let us (or me) know, I'm always keen to hear of success stories with gEDA / PCB being used commercially, so I hope I can help make that happen. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask for me) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Random thoughts on the future interface of PCB
On Dec 11, 2010, at 9:05 AM, Peter Clifton wrote: I'm always keen to hear of success stories with gEDA / PCB being used commercially, OK, I don't mind bragging ;-) The CCD driver board for the ASTRO-H mission (http://astro-h.isas.jaxa.jp/index.html.en) is headed to layout and fab of the engineering model. The layout contractor is using PADS, which gEDA can of course export the design to, but I didn't find out what they planned to use until very late. gEDA made accommodating this late decision trivially easy. This kind of flexibility is a huge advantage for gEDA. The design is online at https://github.com/noqsi/SXI. And we just won a NASA SBIR competition. See http://sbir.gsfc.nasa.gov/SBIR/abstracts/10/sbir/phase1/SBIR-10-1-S3.06-9833.html?solicitationId=SBIR_10_P1 Here, we used gEDA for the design of breadboard electronics, and we plan to use gEDA and PCB for the prototype electronics. We'll put this up on github too. So, a big thank-you to the developers, and to the contributors to gedasymbols. You'll see a donation when the NASA money comes in. John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ j...@noqsi.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Random thoughts on the future interface of PCB
As some of you probably noticed, I started a fork of PCB. One of many :-) The GPL explicitly allows such forks, so don't worry about it. Please try to get your changes merged upstream though, so (1) we all benefit from each other's work, and (2) your fork doesn't diverge too far. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Random thoughts on the future interface of PCB
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 04:05:11PM +, Peter Clifton wrote: On Sat, 2010-12-11 at 10:53 +0100, Martin Kupec wrote: As some of you probably noticed, I started a fork of PCB. Nope.. but since you thought we might notice.. I presume it is a git branch somewhere... repo.or.cz or github? Since I am czech, the repo.or.cz was clear choice :-). As there are some issues which have to be solved before we can really start using this software. I intend to keep a fork with nesesary changes and push the changes upstream later. This way it doesn't bother me much, that pushing upstream is a bit problematic as I have just read. Well, don't forget to raise the issues here - you might find you get some of them fixed for free ;) Fixing issues affecting everyone benefits everyone. If they are very complex to fix, sponsoring someone with the required know-how to fix them might speed up the process of course. Now there are few minor issues, some of them are already fixed in your branch. I will try to post another email describing them later today. Which bits of gEDA are you using? gschem, PCB, xgsch2pcb? We want to use gschem, gsch2pcb and PCB. I have to look to xgsch2pcb. I missed that one. Haven't you seen ebuild for xgsch2pcb somewhere around? I presume on a Linux desktop. Anyway, if you have problems let us (or me) know, I'm always keen to hear of success stories with gEDA / PCB being used commercially, so I hope I can help make that happen. We actually use Windows XP desktops..but for gEDA we have VirtualBox with linux installed. But this will probably change later on as we finish our switchover. Our previous EDA was formica.cz and it has only windows version. If we really start using it in general, you will definetly know as I will be talking here regullary :-). Martin Kupec ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Random thoughts on the future interface of PCB
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 12:48:57PM -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: As some of you probably noticed, I started a fork of PCB. One of many :-) The GPL explicitly allows such forks, so don't worry about it. Please try to get your changes merged upstream though, so (1) we all benefit from each other's work, and (2) your fork doesn't diverge too far. I will do my best to do that. Because of both reasons. Martin Kupec ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Random thoughts on the future interface of PCB
On Sat, 2010-12-11 at 19:01 +0100, Martin Kupec wrote: We actually use Windows XP desktops. Have you ever tried KiCAD? That is available native for Microsoft Windows. I would be interested how it compares -- and I think I will never find the time and motivation to serious test it. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Random thoughts on the future interface of PCB
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 07:13:14PM +0100, Stefan Salewski wrote: On Sat, 2010-12-11 at 19:01 +0100, Martin Kupec wrote: We actually use Windows XP desktops. Have you ever tried KiCAD? That is available native for Microsoft Windows. I would be interested how it compares -- and I think I will never find the time and motivation to serious test it. I just gave about an hour to KiCAD. From my point of view it is different. It is one rather monolitic piece of software. The gEDA is a lot of smaller tools. Personaly I like the second approach. The good thing about the pcb editor is that polygons belongs to an net. So it automaticly connect to the same net and avoids all the other nets. There is really a lot of differences, some bigger some smaller. But from my point of view it is very simillar. And I have no idea which one is better. Martin Kupec ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: FUNDING (was: Random thoughts on the future interface of PCB)
On 10 December 2010 00:09, Stephen Ecob silicon.on.inspirat...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 10:27 AM, asom...@gmail.com wrote: How about a Kickstarter project for the toporouter? Let Anthony make a proposal and put it on www.kickstarter.com, and then gEDA users can pledge donations. If it raises enough money by graduation (or whatever other deadline), then we all fund Anthony to work on it. If we don't raise enough, then nobody gets charged, the toporouter languishes, and Anthony has to get a real job like (some of) the rest of us. If we can raise enough for Anthony to get the toporouter working well (say to the point where it's working better than the existing autorouter for 2L and 4L boards), let's do it. Count me in for $4K. Anthony, how much funding would you need to get the toporouter working well ? A kickstarter project sounds like a great idea. I'd certainly contribute. As the funding only occurs if the goal is met, I'd personally recommend: 1) Giving plenty of time before the deadline 2) Considering bringing the target down from $4K, if that is possible. Pledges can still continue once the target is met. Justyn. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Does anybody have a footprint to this BNC connector?
sweet, thanks guys! On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 4:30 PM, kai-martin knaak k...@familieknaak.de wrote: yamazakir2 wrote: http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detailname=A97562- ND http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/kai_martin_knaak/footprints/connector/BNC_LAY.fp silk on the other side of the footprint: http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/kai_martin_knaak/footprints/connector/BNC_LAY_BOTTOM.fp ---)kaimartin(--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Öffentlicher PGP-Schlüssel: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x6C0B9F53 ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: Blogging about gEDA development
Hi guys, I was suggesting the other day, that we should have an official gEDA blog (or planet type aggregation), but that made me realise, I've not written any blog posts about the things I've been doing recently. On that topic, take a look here: http://pcjc2.blogspot.com/ http://pcjc2.blogspot.com/2010/12/long-time-no-post.html http://pcjc2.blogspot.com/2010/12/geda-development.html http://pcjc2.blogspot.com/2010/12/pcbgl.html No posts in over two years.. then three in one night. Best wishes, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask for me) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
