gEDA-user: Question about gschem, SPICE, and schematic subsheets

[Young, Michael I. (DFRC-SR)]

   Hello,
I have been playing around with one of the examples given in the
   distribution for an RF_Amp in an attempt to learn how to use gschem
   with SPICE.  I noticed that you don't seem to be able to go down the
   schematic tree into the Q1 and Q2 schematics.  When I looked inside it
   looks like you have to terminate the "ports" on the SPICE subcircuit
   with spice-subcircuit-IO-1.sym instead of an in-1.sym or out-1.sym.  I
   am guessing that this, as well as no pinlabels in BJT_Model.sym, is why
   you can't go into the Q? Schematics.  Is there any way to set this up
   so you can drop into the Q? Schematics in gschem?
   Thanks
   Michael


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Re: gEDA-user: How to make a foot print

[Colin D Bennett]

On Wed, 22 Dec 2010 13:34:31 -0800
blueeag...@gmail.com wrote:

> I really like the gSchema program and after getting used to it, I
> find it better than most I have tried.  But the PCB program has a lot
> to be desired.  I could probably do it if all I needed was through
> hole, but I need some custom parts.  I could use KCAD I guess, but I
> would really like to get to know gEDA as well.
> 
> I was wondering if someone could give me a good step by step on how
> to make a foot print.  I read the documents that are out there, but I
> am still not quite clear how to do this.

You are not alone.  Making footprints in pcb takes a lot of practice,
for me a least.  I have made many footprints in pcb over the past
couple of years and still I have to refer to guidelines, if I haven't
made a footprint for some time and have gotten rusty.

I have found that, for making footprints graphically in pcb,
 is a very good
checklist to follow the first few times and possibly refer to it later
as well.

Regards,
Colin


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Re: gEDA-user: geda-user Digest, Vol 55, Issue 62

[DJ Delorie]

PCB doesn't really have a footprint editing mode.  It can load
footprints so you can view them, but that's about it.  When I edit
footprints, I usually have a *.pcb file with that footprint in it, make
the changes there, and re-extract the footprint to a file.  Or I just
edit the file in a text editor.

For comments, you can do this:

# This is a comment

However, those are not preserved when the footprint is loaded into pcb.

You can add attributes to a footprint like this:

Element[...]
(
  Attribute("...name..." "...value...")
)

Those *are* preserved, and can be both documentary (like the author's
email) or programatic (like filenames for 3-D models, if you had a 3-D
plugin).


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Re: gEDA-user: geda-user Digest, Vol 55, Issue 62

[blueeagle2]

   Thanks DJ.
   I have another question now.  I open up my custom footprint and it
   fills the entire graphics editor and I can't zoom out.  I can zoom in,
   but not out.  I wanted to move it so the diamond was in a different
   place, but since I can't zoom out, it is difficult to do this.  I set
   the scale to 60, but this had no effect.
   So, I am having to edit the file directly in GEdit.  One thing though,
   how do I place a comment in the footprint file.  I would like to
   comment the file so I know what line does what until I learn this good
   enough where I don't need the comments.
   Z.K.

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 Den 2010-12-22 20:50:56 skrev DJ Delorie <[9...@delorie.com>:
 >
 > The default folder is the current working directory.  If you're
 using
 > the desktop to start gschem, you should be able to tell the
 desktop icon
 > what it's starting directory is.  If you start gschem from the
 terminal
 > the default folder is the current directory inside the terminal.
 >
 I use the Programs menu (Gnome, Ubuntu 10.10) and there is no such
 option
 there, unfortunately.
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 Kind regards
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 Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
 > things like ?DRAWN BY?, ?TITLE?, ?REVISION? and so on. Am I
 supposed
 > to  fill that in by using the Text tool or is there a more proper
 way
 > to do it?
 Yes, this is the proper way with the default title block.
 I too think, this is a bit tedious. So I designed my own title
 with regular attributes for name, date, etc. That way I can fire
 the attribute editor with [ee] and edit all entries in a dialog.
 You'd have to add a line to your local gschemrc in order to get
 your localized title block. See
 [13]http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:faq-gschem#can_i_get_a_customized
 _title_block_with_new_schematics
 While at it, I also removed the big rectangle. I just never fits
 my circuit. Instead, I draw a rectangle with the add-box tool.
 [14]http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:faq-gschem#why_are_symbols_so_big
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 >
 >> things like ?DRAWN BY?, ?TITLE?, ?REVISION? and so 

Re: gEDA-user: overlapping via changes

[kai-martin knaak]

Hi Stefan.

> Kai Martin, you your English is much better than mine, but please 
> try to be not to verbose. And watch for typos, "dropp" and "pacing". 

I fixed the typos and will reconsider my verbosity level.  

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Re: gEDA-user: overlapping via changes

[Stefan Salewski]

On Thu, 2010-12-23 at 00:40 +0100, kai-martin knaak wrote:
> Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:
> 
> > Thanks. I'll put this to the wiki.
> >
> 
> http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:pcb_tips?&#i_want_to_draw_two_vias_very_close_to_each_other_but_pcb_won_t_let_me
>  
> 
> ---<)kaimartin(>--

Wiki writes:

I want to draw two vias very close to each other, but PCB won't let me!
Unfortunately, older versions of PCB not only prevent you from pacing
overlapping vias but dropp them on load. In december 2010 this overly
cautions behavior was fixed. If you really need overlapping vias, you
have to install a version of pcb younger than that.

The 2011 version of PCB still won't allow you to place vias so close
that their holes overlap. However, it won't complain if you mangaged to
work-around this restriction. E.g. place tiny vias and increase their
size afterwards.

One may write:
PCB versions before xxx prevent you from placing overlapping vias and
drop them on load.  Since December 2010 overlapping of annular ring is
allowed, but overlapping holes are still restricted. If you really want
overlapping wholes, you can place small vias close together and then
increase the diameter.

Kai Martin, you your English is much better than mine, but please try to
be not to verbose. And watch for typos, "dropp" and "pacing". 



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Re: gEDA-user: Hierarchy Refdes and Component Values

[kai-martin knaak]

Stefan Salewski wrote:

> Some people may read  "3R12" as 3.12 OHM, I have seen 
> such notations somewhere, i.e. 4R7 for 4.7 Ohm.

People who know this notation tend to know that there is no
3.12 Ohm in any of the E series. In addition, pcb emits only
names or values but never both. So you know, you are looking
at the refdes printout -- not the value printout.
If it still feels too ambiguous, some separator character is 
the only way out. In that case you have to live with longer
names.

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Re: gEDA-user: overlapping via changes

[kai-martin knaak]

Armin Faltl wrote:

> you suggest it's good for something - what for?

Mechanics. These deviant holes may be used to solder the pcb
to a brass rod.

Anyway, I don't know what use some rocket scientist may find
for overlapping holes. PCB can do it, some fabs do it. So it
should be documented.

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Re: gEDA-user: overlapping via changes

[kai-martin knaak]

Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:

> Thanks. I'll put this to the wiki.
>

http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:pcb_tips?&#i_want_to_draw_two_vias_very_close_to_each_other_but_pcb_won_t_let_me
 

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Re: gEDA-user: Hierarchy Refdes and Component Values

[Stefan Salewski]

On Thu, 2010-12-23 at 00:18 +0100, kai-martin knaak wrote:

> 
> If the refdes of a resistor in the layout reads "3R12" I know
> it is on page 3 of my schematics printout.
> 

Some people may read  "3R12" as 3.12 OHM, I have seen such notations
somewhere, i.e. 4R7 for 4.7 Ohm.



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Re: gEDA-user: Hierarchy Refdes and Component Values

[kai-martin knaak]

Rick Collins wrote:

>  With the hierarchical ref des it tells you which 
> instance.  With component renumbering you have to search to find the 
> right sheet... the same as non-hierarchical schematics.

If the refdes of a resistor in the layout reads "3R12" I know
it is on page 3 of my schematics printout.


> There is more than one way to view instantiation.  You don't have to 
> "see" it as the exact same, single sheet.  If you do, there is no 
> way to have your documentation in step with the actual board 
> produced...

It sure is in step. The hierarchy of schematic is just not flattened 
out. 


> The way you are viewing subsheets, they are macros and 
> the schematic is a programming language. 

In a way, this is always the case, even with a flat schematic. 
Symbols get mapped to footprints according to some rules.
E.g, symbols with the same refdes are all part of the same
component.


> A schematic is intended to 
> be documentation and each page has to show the ref des that appears 
> on the final product.

Whether or not this is desirable depends on the work-flow
and on the project. Remember the 69 instants of a sub circuit
I mentioned? This is a real world example. It would not help 
in any way, if I had this sub circuit printed 69 times.


> The only fly in the ointment is back annotation.

ack. 

I got the impression that refdes renaming due to hierarchical
design is the road block that prevents back annotation in 
geda/pcb.

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Re: gEDA-user: PCB: Rotating components in 45 degree

[kai-martin knaak]

DJ Delorie wrote:

> I would be amenable to letting you own the manual in the 
> source tree :-)

Ok, I bite.  

I'll start sending patches that shift part of the pcb-tips 
to the manual.

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Re: gEDA-user: How to make a foot print

[kai-martin knaak]

blueeag...@gmail.com wrote:

> I really like the gSchema program and after getting used to it, I find it
> better than most I have tried.  But the PCB program has a lot to be
> desired.

After getting used to it, I found pcb better than most I had tried :-)


> One
> thing that confuses me is why they are using negative coordinates. I
> thought it started at 0,0 at the upper left corner 

The pcb canvas is 0,0 at the upper left corner. Footprints have 0,0 at 
the little diamond.


> I tried
> moving a component and it moved the component all right, but it did
> not move the circuit lines and just left them hanging in the air.

Do you have rubber_band_mode in the settings menu enabled? 
What do you mean by "circuit lines"? Straight rat lines that mark
connections not yet laid out?  Or are you talking about tracks you 
already drew in copper? If the former, just press [o] and the rats 
will be regenerated. Tracks should follow if rubber band mode is 
active. 


> Any help would be appreciated.

Did you do the tutorial(s)?

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Re: gEDA-user: How to make a foot print

[kai-martin knaak]

Stefan Salewski wrote:

> You can draw footprints in PCB program, it it described somewhere.
> 
see:
http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:pcb_tips?&#how_do_i_edit_change_an_existing_footprint

Yes, the loss of information when converting a footprint to element
and back, makes the process a bit tedious. I tend to keep the elements
in a dedicated layout file.

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Re: gEDA-user: How to make a foot print

[Stephan Boettcher]

blueeag...@gmail.com writes:

> I really like the gSchema program and after getting used to it, I find it
> better than most I have tried.  But the PCB program has a lot to be
> desired.  I could probably do it if all I needed was through hole, but I
> need some custom parts.  I could use KCAD I guess, but I would really like
> to get to know gEDA as well.
>
> I was wondering if someone could give me a good step by step on how to make
> a foot print.  I read the documents that are out there, but I am still not
> quite clear how to do this.  I was able to do it graphically though I could
> not figure out how to move the positioning diamond no matter what I did.

I think, the position of the diamond is defined by the cursor position
when you cut the draw objects into the buffer to convert them to an
element.

Select the objects, move the cursor to the place you where you want the
diamond, and type Ctrl-C or Ctrl-X.  Then Buffer->Convert Buffer to Element.



> I would really like to understand how to do it by modifying the text
> files, but I don't really understand what the document I read is
> really doing.  One thing that confuses me is why they are using
> negative coordinates.  I thought it started at 0,0 at the upper left
> corner which does not make any sense to me if they are using negative
> coordinates that I saw in some of the examples.  The graphics editor
> though definitely needs some work.  I tried moving a component and it
> moved the component all right, but it did not move the circuit lines
> and just left them hanging in the air.  Any help would be appreciated.
>
>
>
>   Z.K.
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Re: gEDA-user: How to make a foot print

[Stefan Salewski]

On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 13:34 -0800, blueeag...@gmail.com wrote:

>I was wondering if someone could give me a good step by step on how to
>make a foot print.

Many footprints are available, some shipped with PCB, some at
gedasymbols.org, some at
http://www.luciani.org/geda/pcb/pcb-footprint-list.html

You can draw footprints in PCB program, it it described somewhere.

You can use generators, some graphical, some command line based like
footgen or my

http://www.ssalewski.de/SFG.html.en

You can try to understand the footprint file format, reading

http://www.brorson.com/gEDA/land_patterns_20070818.pdf

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Re: gEDA-user: How to make a foot print

[DJ Delorie]

http://www.delorie.com/pcb/docs/gs/

Coordinates in footprints are relative to the footprint's "mark", or
relative origin.  The mark is indicated by the diamond.  I.e. you don't
move the diamond, you move everything else relative to the diamond :-)

If you select stuff and move it, only the selected stuff moves.  If you
just drag-n-drop without selecting first, traces follow.


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gEDA-user: How to make a foot print

[blueeagle2]

   I really like the gSchema program and after getting used to it, I find
   it better than most I have tried.  But the PCB program has a lot to be
   desired.  I could probably do it if all I needed was through hole, but
   I need some custom parts.  I could use KCAD I guess, but I would really
   like to get to know gEDA as well.
   I was wondering if someone could give me a good step by step on how to
   make a foot print.  I read the documents that are out there, but I am
   still not quite clear how to do this.  I was able to do it graphically
   though I could not figure out how to move the positioning diamond no
   matter what I did.  I would really like to understand how to do it by
   modifying the text files, but I don't really understand what the
   document I read is really doing.  One thing that confuses me is why
   they are using negative coordinates.  I thought it started at 0,0 at
   the upper left corner which does not make any sense to me if they are
   using negative coordinates that I saw in some of the examples.  The
   graphics editor though definitely needs some work.  I tried moving a
   component and it moved the component all right, but it did not move the
   circuit lines and just left them hanging in the air.  Any help would be
   appreciated.
 Z.K.


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Re: gEDA-user: Drawing lines (schematic editor)

[Stephan Boettcher]

"Johnny Rosenberg"  writes:

> Den 2010-12-22 20:47:41 skrev DJ Delorie :
>
>>
>> The small circle is the snap-to-pin feature.  You can disable it (I
>> leave it on) via Options->Toggle Magnetic Net
>>
>>

I disable the magnetic net most of the time.  It does seldom what i want
it to do.

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Re: gEDA-user: Beginner question about the default title block

[Stephan Boettcher]

Peter TB Brett  writes:

> On Wednesday 22 December 2010 19:17:14 Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
>
>> When I open a new page, a ”title block” is all I see, and there I can read
>> things like ”DRAWN BY”, ”TITLE”, ”REVISION” and so on. Am I supposed to
>> fill that in by using the Text tool ...?
>
> Yes!  That's what I do, anyway.  Other people have other ways of doing
> it, I'm sure. :-)

Sure! I attach attributes to the titleblock, so I can move the
titleblock with the text.

Typically these:

 id=$Id$
 author=$Author$
 date=$Date$
 revision=$Revision$

and have subversion fill in the details.

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Re: gEDA-user: Drawing lines (schematic editor)

[kai-martin knaak]

DJ Delorie wrote:

> Click on each corner as you go, to force the line to go where
> you want.

If the line wants to jump to places you don't like, press ctrl
while dragging the line with the mouse.  

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Re: gEDA-user: Beginner question about the default title block

[John Luciani]

On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 2:55 PM, kai-martin knaak  wrote:
> Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
>
>> things like ”DRAWN BY”, ”TITLE”, ”REVISION” and so on. Am I supposed
>> to  fill that in by using the Text tool or is there a more proper way
>> to do it?
>
> Yes, this is the proper way with the default title block.
> I too think, this is a bit tedious. So I designed my own title
> with regular attributes for name, date, etc.

That is what I did too.

The one I use for A-size is below.

(* jcl *)


v 20031231 1
T 14400 1500 5 10 0 0 0 0 1
graphical=1
B 0 0 11000 8500 15 0 0 0 -1 -1 0 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1
B 3400 0 7600 600 15 0 0 0 -1 -1 0 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1
L 3400 300 11000 300 15 0 0 0 -1 -1
L 5100 300 5100 0 15 0 0 0 -1 -1
L 6900 300 6900 0 15 0 0 0 -1 -1
T 3500 400 15 8 1 0 0 0 1
TITLE
T 4100 400 8 8 1 1 0 0 1
title=?
T 3500 100 15 8 1 0 0 0 1
REVISION
T 4400 100 8 8 1 1 0 0 1
revision=0
T 5200 100 15 8 1 0 0 0 1
PAGE
T 6000 100 8 8 1 1 0 6 1
page=?
T 6100 100 15 8 1 0 0 0 1
OF
T 6400 100 8 8 1 1 0 0 1
number_of_pages=?
T 7000 100 15 8 1 0 0 0 1
DRAWN BY
T 8000 100 8 8 1 1 0 0 1
drawn_by=JCL


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Re: gEDA-user: Beginner question about the default title block

[kai-martin knaak]

Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

> things like ”DRAWN BY”, ”TITLE”, ”REVISION” and so on. Am I supposed
> to  fill that in by using the Text tool or is there a more proper way
> to do it?

Yes, this is the proper way with the default title block. 
I too think, this is a bit tedious. So I designed my own title
with regular attributes for name, date, etc. That way I can fire
the attribute editor with [ee] and edit all entries in a dialog.

You'd have to add a line to your local gschemrc in order to get
your localized title block. See 
http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:faq-gschem#can_i_get_a_customized_title_block_with_new_schematics

While at it, I also removed the big rectangle. I just never fits 
my circuit. Instead, I draw a rectangle with the add-box tool.
http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:faq-gschem#why_are_symbols_so_big

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Re: gEDA-user: How to change the default folder for my drawings?

[Johnny Rosenberg]

Den 2010-12-22 20:50:56 skrev DJ Delorie :



The default folder is the current working directory.  If you're using
the desktop to start gschem, you should be able to tell the desktop icon
what it's starting directory is.  If you start gschem from the terminal
the default folder is the current directory inside the terminal.



I use the Programs menu (Gnome, Ubuntu 10.10) and there is no such option  
there, unfortunately.


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Re: gEDA-user: Drawing lines (schematic editor)

[Johnny Rosenberg]

Den 2010-12-22 20:47:41 skrev DJ Delorie :



The small circle is the snap-to-pin feature.  You can disable it (I
leave it on) via Options->Toggle Magnetic Net




Okay, thanks. :)

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Re: gEDA-user: How to change the default folder for my drawings?

[DJ Delorie]

The default folder is the current working directory.  If you're using
the desktop to start gschem, you should be able to tell the desktop icon
what it's starting directory is.  If you start gschem from the terminal
the default folder is the current directory inside the terminal.


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gEDA-user: How to change the default folder for my drawings?

[Johnny Rosenberg]

It seems like the default folder is ${HOME} by default, how can I change  
that? I couldn't find anything like ”settings” or ”preferences” in the  
menues.

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Re: gEDA-user: Drawing lines (schematic editor)

[DJ Delorie]

The small circle is the snap-to-pin feature.  You can disable it (I
leave it on) via Options->Toggle Magnetic Net


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Re: gEDA-user: Beginner question about the default title block

[Johnny Rosenberg]

Den 2010-12-22 20:29:39 skrev Peter TB Brett :


On Wednesday 22 December 2010 19:17:14 Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

When I open a new page, a ”title block” is all I see, and there I can  
read

things like ”DRAWN BY”, ”TITLE”, ”REVISION” and so on. Am I supposed to
fill that in by using the Text tool ...?


Yes!  That's what I do, anyway.  Other people have other ways of doing  
it, I'm

sure. :-)

  Peter



I first thought that I was supposed to change some parameters of some kind…

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Re: gEDA-user: Drawing lines (schematic editor)

[Johnny Rosenberg]

Den 2010-12-22 20:26:57 skrev DJ Delorie :



Click on each corner as you go, to force the line to go where you want.



I find the behaviour a bit in-consequent (or maybe I just don't understand  
it…). Some times I fail, some times I succeed… I found that if I start  
clicking somewhere on the surface and start from there, I can draw the  
line in two steps… But I have to click somewhere where a small circle does  
not show up, otherwise it will snap to that small circle…


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Re: gEDA-user: Beginner question about the default title block

[Peter TB Brett]

On Wednesday 22 December 2010 19:17:14 Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

> When I open a new page, a ”title block” is all I see, and there I can read
> things like ”DRAWN BY”, ”TITLE”, ”REVISION” and so on. Am I supposed to
> fill that in by using the Text tool ...?

Yes!  That's what I do, anyway.  Other people have other ways of doing it, I'm 
sure. :-)

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Re: gEDA-user: Drawing lines (schematic editor)

[DJ Delorie]

Click on each corner as you go, to force the line to go where you want.


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gEDA-user: Drawing lines (schematic editor)

[Johnny Rosenberg]

I installed the gEDA schematic editor (and other gEDA stuff) yesterday and  
played around with it a bit today and as a beginner I have a few  
questions, here's one of them (I already asked one in another thread a few  
minutes ago):


When I connect things to each other I enter the ”add nets mode”, right? So  
for testing, I first added an ordinary OP amp and then I wanted to draw a  
line between the output and ”-” to create a ”follower”, it that the right  
word in English? But no matter what I did in add nets mode, the (blue)  
line went right through the OP amp, which doesn't look very good in my  
opinion… How do I prevent this from happen?


Sorry for not so good English…
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gEDA-user: Beginner question about the default title block

[Johnny Rosenberg]

I installed the gEDA schematic editor (and other gEDA stuff) yesterday and  
played around with it a bit today and as a beginner I have a few  
questions, I hope you don't mind:


When I open a new page, a ”title block” is all I see, and there I can read  
things like ”DRAWN BY”, ”TITLE”, ”REVISION” and so on. Am I supposed to  
fill that in by using the Text tool or is there a more proper way to do it?


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Re: gEDA-user: gEDA-dev: Test import of gEDA + PCB bugs on Launchpad

[Peter TB Brett]

On Wednesday 22 Dec 2010 11:40:39 Peter Clifton wrote:

> After much hard work, manual tweaking, and even a patch to Launchpad
> (rolling out onto production servers soon)... I've got something for
> people to PLAY WITH!:
>
> https://bugs.staging.launchpad.net/pcb
> https://bugs.staging.launchpad.net/geda

Also, everybody should remember that the data from SF.net isn't up-to-date, so 
some tracker items currently on SF won't appear here.

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Re: gEDA-user: gEDA-dev: Test import of gEDA + PCB bugs on Launchpad

[Peter TB Brett]

On Wednesday 22 Dec 2010 11:40:39 Peter Clifton wrote:

> Everything transferred has been given a "sf-import" tag, and the origin
> tracker is identified (if not "bugs"), by an additional "patch-tracker"
> or "support-request" tag. We _could_ change that to a single "sf-bugs"
> "sf-patches" "sf-support" tag, dropping the "sf-import".

Good idea.

 Peter

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gEDA-user: Test import of gEDA + PCB bugs on Launchpad

[Peter Clifton]

Hi guys,

You might have heard that I have been looking at moving our SourceForge
trackers to Launchpad.

After much hard work, manual tweaking, and even a patch to Launchpad
(rolling out onto production servers soon)... I've got something for
people to PLAY WITH!:

https://bugs.staging.launchpad.net/pcb
https://bugs.staging.launchpad.net/geda


I'm tempted to reconsider the tags I've used for the export though.

Everything transferred has been given a "sf-import" tag, and the origin
tracker is identified (if not "bugs"), by an additional "patch-tracker"
or "support-request" tag. We _could_ change that to a single "sf-bugs"
"sf-patches" "sf-support" tag, dropping the "sf-import".

Anything appropriate looking from the SF patch tracker, or generally,
something which looks like an attached patch, gets the special flag
"patch" on the attachment. This shows up as a little band-aid icon next
to the attachment, and bugs with patches can be filtered for.


Please feel free to play around, submit _DUMMY_ bugs, and generally get
a feel for the system. Note that this is a staging server, and data
submitted to it WILL BE DELETED at some point.

Just to re-iterate.. bugs filed on staging.launchpad.net WILL BE LOST.

Best wishes,

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