Re: gEDA-user: New year

2011-01-01 Thread Atommann
2011/1/1 Levente Kovacs leventel...@gmail.com:
 Happy new year all!

新年快乐!(Happy New Year!)

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Re: gEDA-user: European symbols?

2011-01-01 Thread Johnny Rosenberg

Den 2011-01-01 03:06:21 skrev kai-martin knaak k...@familieknaak.de:


Johnny Rosenberg wrote:


uploaded them here (temporarily):
http://ubuntuone.com/p/W5T/


I just receive this message:
 Could not locate object

---)kaimartin(---


Something went wrong yesterday, I don't know exactly what, but here's a  
new try, which I tested several times:


http://ubuntuone.com/p/W8l/




* INFORMATION FOR OPERA USERS ONLY (at least 11.00 build 1156): *
There seems to be some kind of bug with Opera and .tar.bz2 files: Opera  
added 23 bytes to the file for some reason. If you insist in using Opera  
for this, you need to remove the first 15 bytes and the last 8 bytes of  
the file. The correct size of the file is 2335 Bytes. You can use ghex2  
for editing the file. The file should start with ”BZh61AYSY” and end with  
”bb...@”.

*

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Re: gEDA-user: European symbols?

2011-01-01 Thread Florian E. Teply
On Sat, 01 Jan 2011 12:01:36 +0100
Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Den 2011-01-01 03:06:21 skrev kai-martin knaak k...@familieknaak.de:
 
  Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
 
  uploaded them here (temporarily):
  http://ubuntuone.com/p/W5T/
 
  I just receive this message:
   Could not locate object
 
  ---)kaimartin(---
 
 Something went wrong yesterday, I don't know exactly what, but here's
 a new try, which I tested several times:
 
 http://ubuntuone.com/p/W8l/
 
 
 
 
 * INFORMATION FOR OPERA USERS ONLY (at least 11.00 build 1156):
 * There seems to be some kind of bug with Opera and .tar.bz2
 files: Opera added 23 bytes to the file for some reason. If you
 insist in using Opera for this, you need to remove the first 15 bytes
 and the last 8 bytes of the file. The correct size of the file is
 2335 Bytes. You can use ghex2 for editing the file. The file should
 start with ”BZh61AYSY” and end with ”bb...@”.
 *
 
It seems to me that this is indeed not an opera-specific problem: also
with wget, opera 10.63 and dillo this turns out to happen, arora as 
well as ancient NCSA Mosaic just work fine on that. Funny thing is that 
only opera and arora seem to come up with the intended filename
74-IEC.tar.bz2 ...

Shall i put it up someplace else?

HTH, Florian


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Re: gEDA-user: European symbols?

2011-01-01 Thread Johnny Rosenberg

Den 2011-01-01 12:55:41 skrev Florian E. Teply use...@teply.info:


On Sat, 01 Jan 2011 12:01:36 +0100
Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com wrote:


Den 2011-01-01 03:06:21 skrev kai-martin knaak k...@familieknaak.de:

 Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

 uploaded them here (temporarily):
 http://ubuntuone.com/p/W5T/

 I just receive this message:
 Could not locate object

 ---)kaimartin(---

Something went wrong yesterday, I don't know exactly what, but here's
a new try, which I tested several times:

http://ubuntuone.com/p/W8l/




* INFORMATION FOR OPERA USERS ONLY (at least 11.00 build 1156):
* There seems to be some kind of bug with Opera and .tar.bz2
files: Opera added 23 bytes to the file for some reason. If you
insist in using Opera for this, you need to remove the first 15 bytes
and the last 8 bytes of the file. The correct size of the file is
2335 Bytes. You can use ghex2 for editing the file. The file should
start with ”BZh61AYSY” and end with ”bb...@”.
*


It seems to me that this is indeed not an opera-specific problem: also
with wget, opera 10.63 and dillo this turns out to happen, arora as
well as ancient NCSA Mosaic just work fine on that. Funny thing is that
only opera and arora seem to come up with the intended filename
74-IEC.tar.bz2 ...

Shall i put it up someplace else?

HTH, Florian



I asked the people at the Opera channel (IRC) at OperaNet (Europe) and  
they found out what happened. The server compressed the file again  
”without telling Opera”, they said, so when downloading it with Opera you  
really get a ”.tar.bz2.gz” rather than just a ”.tar.bz2”, so you need to  
add ”.gz” to the file name, then extract the file twice…


Anyway, I intend to add them at http://www.gedasymbols.org/ myself (asking  
for an account and all that), I just thought that someone could take a  
look at them since this is the very first time I create any symbols. Sure,  
I just edited existing symbols so I guess not much could have gone wrong,  
just wanted to be as sure as possible. I have tried a few of them and they  
seemed to work, but I didn't do anything advanced with them.


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Re: gEDA-user: TI-TINA Spice and gEDA

2011-01-01 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Fri, 2010-12-31 at 16:30 -0800, Oliver King-Smith wrote:
 I have been having problems with LTSpice simulating some components
from TI.

Why, what was not working? LTSpice with wine and Linux?


   I was thinking of looking at TINA-TI spice program.  Has
anyone tried going from gschem to TINA?

So gschem - LTSpice works fine? How did you do it?


I have tried TINA-TI once with Windows-XP -- not too bad for evaluating
properties missing in the datasheet. But you can not really trust the
spice models, one was very wrong. You may still find my problem
mentioned in sci.electronics.design, but they have fixed it now.




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Re: gEDA-user: Resistor values…

2011-01-01 Thread bobo
On Friday 31 December 2010, John Doty wrote:
 I think we can all be friends.

You are the one making enemies.

 Disagreement does not imply
 malice.

In your case, it does.


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gEDA-user: No-Net Copper

2011-01-01 Thread Rick Collins

At 06:10 AM 12/31/2010, you wrote:

 This is a DRC issue. The rules should allow any net to connect
 to no-net copper. No need to restructure the way pcb handles
 connectivity.

If different nets connect to the same no-net copper there is a short
between nets.

Consider a large item like you might solder a RFI shield to, that
covers the perimeter of a large board.
It would be easy to not notice different nets connected at different
times, at opposite ends of the board.

So I'd constrain your idea to a single net.  Even then it would be
better to have a warning that could be turned off per net.
Maybe that connection was not intentional?


Maybe someone could explain to me why there would be copper on a PCB 
that is not part of a net?  I suppose there might be a reason to not 
connect an RFI shield to ground, but why would you not want to give 
that net a name and make it part of the net list?  I would show that 
RFI shield on my schematic and explicitly indicate that it is not to 
be connected to ground.


Why is no-net copper useful?

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Re: gEDA-user: No-Net Copper

2011-01-01 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sat, 2011-01-01 at 10:33 -0500, Rick Collins wrote:

 
 Why is no-net copper useful?
 
 Rick 
 

-- use copper like silk, i.e for text, marks...
-- some like to have copper below screws, for mechanical reasons
-- use copper where it does not hurt, i.e if milling your boards or to
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Re: gEDA-user: No-Net Copper

2011-01-01 Thread kai-martin knaak
Rick Collins wrote:

 Maybe someone could explain to me why there would be copper on a PCB 
 that is not part of a net? 

Possible reasons:
* the pcb will be done by milling. (as opposed to etching)
* a logo in copper contains portions not connected to anything
* text in copper contains lots of isolated snippets
* to save chemicals, large areas may deliberately stay as copper

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Re: gEDA-user: European symbols?

2011-01-01 Thread kai-martin knaak
Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

 here's a  
 new try, which I tested several times:
 
 http://ubuntuone.com/p/W8l/

I just looked at 7400-IEC-1.sym. Some comments:

* some lines of invisible text is not on 100 grid. 

* the footprint attribute is invisible

* pin labels are invisible

* if pin labels were visible, they'd collide with the box

* pin length is 200 units. IMHO, these lengthy pins result in 
awkward artwork, when there is little space on the canvas. This
is of course a matter of taste.

* the slot attribute is invisible. I like to make it visible, so 
it is explicitly shown on the schematic and can be edited on mouse
click.

* there is no value attribute -- this attribute is used in the bill of 
materials

* the visible string 7400 is simple text. That way, it cannot be edited 
in the schematic. In a real circuit it should read 74HC00 or whatever 
flavor of TTL logic should be used.

* the supply nets are implicitly given with the net attribute. IMHO, 
this approach hides information that should be visible in the 
schematic. I prefer to put the power pins in a dedicated 74er 
power symbol.

* suggestion: If the symbol complies to a specific IEC norm. How about 
a comment, that refers to the specific norm?

* what is the intended use of the attribute device=7400 ?

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Re: gEDA-user: No-Net Copper

2011-01-01 Thread Rick Collins

At 11:54 AM 1/1/2011, you wrote:

On Sat, 2011-01-01 at 10:33 -0500, Rick Collins wrote:


 Why is no-net copper useful?

 Rick


-- use copper like silk, i.e for text, marks...
-- some like to have copper below screws, for mechanical reasons
-- use copper where it does not hurt, i.e if milling your boards or to
save chemicals


If you are milling a board, do you layout the material not 
removed???  I expect that would just be a by product of the milling 
and not a part of the layout.  In this case, I would consider any net 
connection to the unmilled copper to be an error that should be 
flagged.  If you want to use it for ground plane, then this is part of a net.


For copper under screws, I always spec that in the schematic by 
adding a component for the hole and pads.  I guess if you are happy 
spec'ing things outside of the schematic you don't need a net for 
that, but I don't see a need to support a separate class of copper for it.


As to text, etc, I suppose that is not typically considered part of a 
net unless it is done as openings in a copper layer.  But when do you 
connect a trace to text?  If anything, I would want that flagged as 
an error even if it only connects to one net, or at least a warning.


I can see where no-net copper might be ok in a design, but I don't 
see a need for it.  Does this add any complexity to the tools beyond 
not being handled correctly in connectivity test/DRC (according to 
some no matter how you do it).  Does using no-net copper simplify anything?


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Re: gEDA-user: European symbols?

2011-01-01 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sat, 2011-01-01 at 18:42 +0100, kai-martin knaak wrote:

 
 * what is the intended use of the attribute device=7400 ?

I think I have used and suggested once to put not plain text strings
like 7400 onto the symbol, but use an attribute, it may have been
device. device may be reserved for spice, so I may have used value
attribute, which should be a better choice.

But still I suggest using attributes for the visible text -- one
advantage is that we can modify it in the schematic, i.e. to 74HCT00.

OK, lets look at

http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:master_attributes_list


Symbol only Attributes

device
device= is the device name of the symbol and is required by gnetlist.
device= should be placed somewhere in the symbol and made invisible.

Still I do not really understand that...





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Re: gEDA-user: No-Net Copper

2011-01-01 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sat, 2011-01-01 at 12:57 -0500, Rick Collins wrote:
 At 11:54 AM 1/1/2011, you wrote:
 On Sat, 2011-01-01 at 10:33 -0500, Rick Collins wrote:
 
  
   Why is no-net copper useful?
  
   Rick
  
 
 -- use copper like silk, i.e for text, marks...
 -- some like to have copper below screws, for mechanical reasons
 -- use copper where it does not hurt, i.e if milling your boards or to
 save chemicals
 
 If you are milling a board, do you layout the material not 
 removed??? 

Kai-Martin and I only answered your simple question:

Why is no-net copper useful?

Have you ever tried to use gEDA's PCB now?
 



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Re: gEDA-user: European symbols?

2011-01-01 Thread kai-martin knaak
Stefan Salewski wrote:

 http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:master_attributes_list
 
 
Symbol only Attributes
 
device
device= is the device name of the symbol and is required by gnetlist.
device= should be placed somewhere in the symbol and made invisible.
 
 Still I do not really understand that...

I just removed the statement that this attribute is required by 
gnetlist, since it isn't. Many of my symbols netlist fine without such 
an attribute.
 
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Re: gEDA-user: No-Net Copper

2011-01-01 Thread Rick Collins

At 01:05 PM 1/1/2011, you wrote:

On Sat, 2011-01-01 at 12:57 -0500, Rick Collins wrote:
 At 11:54 AM 1/1/2011, you wrote:
 On Sat, 2011-01-01 at 10:33 -0500, Rick Collins wrote:
 
  
   Why is no-net copper useful?
  
   Rick
  
 
 -- use copper like silk, i.e for text, marks...
 -- some like to have copper below screws, for mechanical reasons
 -- use copper where it does not hurt, i.e if milling your boards or to
 save chemicals

 If you are milling a board, do you layout the material not
 removed???

Kai-Martin and I only answered your simple question:

Why is no-net copper useful?


The context was supporting it in a layout tool and specifically how 
it impacts DRC and connectivity checking.  I'm just trying to 
understand the thought here.  If copper is left behind because of 
manufacturing, it doesn't really impact the layout process or 
connectivity checking.


It just struck me as odd that there would be support in a layout tool 
for no-net copper that might be connected to nets.


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Re: gEDA-user: TI-TINA Spice and gEDA

2011-01-01 Thread Oliver King-Smith
   Stefan,
   I use the spice-sdb back end for gnetlist.
   I was having some problems with simulating a circuit with a floating
   ground.  It turns out when I set it up in LTSpice (which I run under
   Wine on OS X) it works fine.  That is, I manually enter the schematic
   and components into the GUI frontend.
   So the most likely explanations are, I have an error in my schematic
   that I am not spotting, or the spice-sdb is outputting something that
   is upsetting LTSpice.  The truth of the matter is I have modified the
   spice-sdb scheme file, so I may have made a boo-boo.
   Oliver
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   From: Stefan Salewski m...@ssalewski.de
   To: gEDA user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org
   Sent: Sat, January 1, 2011 5:53:23 AM
   Subject: Re: gEDA-user: TI-TINA Spice and gEDA
   On Fri, 2010-12-31 at 16:30 -0800, Oliver King-Smith wrote:
I have been having problems with LTSpice simulating some components
   from TI.
   Why, what was not working? LTSpice with wine and Linux?
 I was thinking of looking at TINA-TI spice program.  Has
   anyone tried going from gschem to TINA?
   So gschem - LTSpice works fine? How did you do it?
   I have tried TINA-TI once with Windows-XP -- not too bad for evaluating
   properties missing in the datasheet. But you can not really trust the
   spice models, one was very wrong. You may still find my problem
   mentioned in sci.electronics.design, but they have fixed it now.
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Re: gEDA-user: TI-TINA Spice and gEDA

2011-01-01 Thread John Doty

On Jan 1, 2011, at 11:53 AM, Oliver King-Smith wrote:

 I was having some problems with simulating a circuit with a floating
   ground.  It turns out when I set it up in LTSpice (which I run under
   Wine on OS X) it works fine.  That is, I manually enter the schematic
   and components into the GUI frontend.

If you post it one of us might be able to figure it out.

John Doty  Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
http://www.noqsi.com/
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Re: gEDA-user: TI-TINA Spice and gEDA

2011-01-01 Thread Oliver King-Smith
   John,
   Thank you for the offer, but let me dig through the output I am
   generating with my modified spice-sdb.  It might be something I changed
   in the spice-sdb that is breaking things.
   Oliver
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   From: John Doty j...@noqsi.com
   To: gEDA user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org
   Sent: Sat, January 1, 2011 11:23:18 AM
   Subject: Re: gEDA-user: TI-TINA Spice and gEDA
   On Jan 1, 2011, at 11:53 AM, Oliver King-Smith wrote:
I was having some problems with simulating a circuit with a
   floating
 ground.  It turns out when I set it up in LTSpice (which I run under
 Wine on OS X) it works fine.  That is, I manually enter the
   schematic
 and components into the GUI frontend.
   If you post it one of us might be able to figure it out.
   John Doty  Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
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   [2]...@noqsi.com
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Re: gEDA-user: [Patches] GTK Recent-file-manager

2011-01-01 Thread kai-martin knaak
Felix Ruoff wrote:

 I wish you much fun with testing this new features (if you like) and 
 would be very glad to hear/read some comments!

Hmm. Isolated patches make testing a bit awkward. What might be ok
for simple additions gets progressively less fun for more complicated 
changes.

Can you set up a git repository of pcb with your patches applied?
(The way Peter Clifton makes his GL-enabled version of pcb available to 
potential testers)

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Re: gEDA-user: No-Net Copper

2011-01-01 Thread Christian Riggenbach
On Saturday 01 January 2011 19.26:35 kai-martin knaak wrote:
 If no-net copper is connected to a net, it automatically becomes
 some-net copper. The current issue with pcb: You need to toggle
 enforce_DRC to do the connection. This is a hassle that should
 be removed from the GUI.

There is a trick to connect to some other copper not in the same net:

- enter the line mode
- hover over the copper to connect
- press 'f' (to mark it as found)
- start the line from the not marked copper. Both should now be marked as
 found and should be connectable.

This is possible, because Auto enfore DRC clearance only relies on the 
found flag. Also it only resets the found status on entering the line 
mode.

I don't know about the Lesstif GUI, but in GTK it works. This is perhaps 
something for the wiki, as it is a FAQ (IMHO).

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Re: gEDA-user: European symbols?

2011-01-01 Thread Johnny Rosenberg

Den 2011-01-01 18:42:49 skrev kai-martin knaak k...@familieknaak.de:


Johnny Rosenberg wrote:


here's a
new try, which I tested several times:

http://ubuntuone.com/p/W8l/


I just looked at 7400-IEC-1.sym. Some comments:

* some lines of invisible text is not on 100 grid.


I took a look myself and you're right. I didn't make those though, since I  
just modified an existing gate, so I guess they are not on ”100 grid” in  
the original symbol files either, but I didn't check that yet.
I didn't add or modify any invisible text except those very unnecessary  
(?) author- and license lines. I guess I should remove them entirely.




* the footprint attribute is invisible


Didn't change that either. Why would you like them visible?


* pin labels are invisible

* if pin labels were visible, they'd collide with the box

* pin length is 200 units. IMHO, these lengthy pins result in
awkward artwork, when there is little space on the canvas. This
is of course a matter of taste.


200? Strange. Strange. Looks like 300 to me, except the output pin, which  
indeed is 200. I didn't change that from the original symbol either,  
though.
Actually, the only thing I changed was the shape of the box, and I added  
an  sign inside…




* the slot attribute is invisible. I like to make it visible, so
it is explicitly shown on the schematic and can be edited on mouse
click.

* there is no value attribute -- this attribute is used in the bill of
materials

* the visible string 7400 is simple text. That way, it cannot be edited
in the schematic. In a real circuit it should read 74HC00 or whatever
flavor of TTL logic should be used.

* the supply nets are implicitly given with the net attribute. IMHO,
this approach hides information that should be visible in the
schematic. I prefer to put the power pins in a dedicated 74er
power symbol.

* suggestion: If the symbol complies to a specific IEC norm. How about
a comment, that refers to the specific norm?

* what is the intended use of the attribute device=7400 ?


Don't know, I didn't add that, so it is probably the same as the original  
symbol.




---)kaimartin(---


If it's not too much work, could you modify the 7400 symbol to your  
likings and then send it back so I can modify the other symbols  
accordingly?


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Re: gEDA-user: [Patches] GTK Recent-file-manager

2011-01-01 Thread Felix Ruoff

Am 01.01.2011 20:30, schrieb kai-martin knaak:

Felix Ruoff wrote:


I wish you much fun with testing this new features (if you like) and
would be very glad to hear/read some comments!

Hmm. Isolated patches make testing a bit awkward. What might be ok
for simple additions gets progressively less fun for more complicated
changes.

Can you set up a git repository of pcb with your patches applied?
(The way Peter Clifton makes his GL-enabled version of pcb available to
potential testers)

---)kaimartin(---
Hmmm, I have never done something like this, but I will try. Does anyone 
of you have a hint for a documentation how to do this and a link to a 
webpage, where I can host this repository?


Thanks,
Felix


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Re: gEDA-user: European symbols?

2011-01-01 Thread John Doty

On Jan 1, 2011, at 1:24 PM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

 Den 2011-01-01 18:42:49 skrev kai-martin knaak k...@familieknaak.de:
 
 Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
 
 here's a
 new try, which I tested several times:
 
 http://ubuntuone.com/p/W8l/
 
 I just looked at 7400-IEC-1.sym. Some comments:
 
 * some lines of invisible text is not on 100 grid.
 
 I took a look myself and you're right. I didn't make those though, since I 
 just modified an existing gate, so I guess they are not on ”100 grid” in the 
 original symbol files either, but I didn't check that yet.
 I didn't add or modify any invisible text except those very unnecessary (?) 
 author- and license lines. I guess I should remove them entirely.

You should have them if you intend to publish on gedasymbols.

 
 
 * the footprint attribute is invisible
 
 Didn't change that either. Why would you like them visible?

Matter of style. Kai-Martin has his, others have theirs. I prefer the footprint 
invisible so it doesn't clutter the schematic. If I want to know the footprint, 
I look in the BOM.

 
 * pin labels are invisible

Another matter of style, when the symbol itself is sufficient to deduce 
function.

 
 * if pin labels were visible, they'd collide with the box

But they are invisible.

 
 * pin length is 200 units. IMHO, these lengthy pins result in
 awkward artwork, when there is little space on the canvas. This
 is of course a matter of taste.
 
 200? Strange. Strange. Looks like 300 to me, except the output pin, which 
 indeed is 200. I didn't change that from the original symbol either, though.
 Actually, the only thing I changed was the shape of the box, and I added an  
 sign inside…

Another matter of style. Do it how it looks good to you: they are your symbols.

 
 
 * the slot attribute is invisible. I like to make it visible, so
 it is explicitly shown on the schematic and can be edited on mouse
 click.

I personally prefer it invisible. Do as you please.

 
 * there is no value attribute -- this attribute is used in the bill of
 materials

There's no common convention here. I often use the device attribute for this 
purpose. Then value is for things like resistors. Whatever makes sense to you.

 
 * the visible string 7400 is simple text. That way, it cannot be edited
 in the schematic. In a real circuit it should read 74HC00 or whatever
 flavor of TTL logic should be used.

That's an old convention. Due to Ales? I usually agree with Kai-Martin on this 
matter of style (but on some days ...). Use device= or value= to identify the 
component if you like.

 
 * the supply nets are implicitly given with the net attribute. IMHO,
 this approach hides information that should be visible in the
 schematic. I prefer to put the power pins in a dedicated 74er
 power symbol.

Another matter of style, where I again generally agree with Kai-Martin. I even 
use the power symbols he posted on gedasymbols. But do what makes sense for 
*your* flow.

 
 * suggestion: If the symbol complies to a specific IEC norm. How about
 a comment, that refers to the specific norm?

Good idea.

 
 * what is the intended use of the attribute device=7400 ?

Another style is to use device= as a generic identifier (7400), and put the 
complete part number in value=, e.g. value=SN74HC00D or some such.

 
 Don't know, I didn't add that, so it is probably the same as the original 
 symbol.
 
 
 ---)kaimartin(---
 
 If it's not too much work, could you modify the 7400 symbol to your likings 
 and then send it back so I can modify the other symbols accordingly?

Your symbols should fit your prejudices and intended use.

John Doty  Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
http://www.noqsi.com/
j...@noqsi.com




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Re: gEDA-user: [Patches] GTK Recent-file-manager

2011-01-01 Thread Matthew Wilkins
 Hmmm, I have never done something like this, but I will try. Does anyone 
 of you have a hint for a documentation how to do this and a link to a 
 webpage, where I can host this repository?

Thanks,
Felix



I'd be interested to know how you do this; I'm preparing a patch to gschem's 
multi-attribute editor to allow it to operate on multiple objects at once, 
rather than going blank when multiple objects are selected.  It's getting close 
to the point where it could be released for testing and feedback.

mw.




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Re: gEDA-user: [Patches] GTK Recent-file-manager

2011-01-01 Thread Felix Ruoff

Am 01.01.2011 21:35, schrieb Felix Ruoff:

Am 01.01.2011 20:30, schrieb kai-martin knaak:

Felix Ruoff wrote:


I wish you much fun with testing this new features (if you like) and
would be very glad to hear/read some comments!

Hmm. Isolated patches make testing a bit awkward. What might be ok
for simple additions gets progressively less fun for more complicated
changes.

Can you set up a git repository of pcb with your patches applied?
(The way Peter Clifton makes his GL-enabled version of pcb available to
potential testers)

---)kaimartin(---
Hmmm, I have never done something like this, but I will try. Does 
anyone of you have a hint for a documentation how to do this and a 
link to a webpage, where I can host this repository?


I have figured out myself how to set up a git repository on github. The 
page, where you can browse it online is 
https://github.com/fruoff/pcb-fruoff .


If you like, you can get the branch with the following command:

git clone git://github.com/fruoff/pcb-fruoff.git

I will push some of my other modifications to this repository, too. 
Hope, this will make testing easier.


Am 01.01.2011 22:57, schrieb Matthew Wilkins:
I'd be interested to know how you do this; I'm preparing a patch to 
gschem's

multi-attribute editor to allow it to operate on multiple objects at once,
rather than going blank when multiple objects are selected.  It's getting close
to the point where it could be released for testing and feedback.

mw.
I have used the service at github.com. It took me one hour since I had 
created it like I want. I will have to test some other possibilities, 
but I am really glad with this page until now.
For me it was unexpected, that I have to fork and push everything with 
the normal terminal, not via the web-browser as I expected. But now it's 
really easy! Like working locally on my machine.


Wish you all the best for the project!

Kind regards,
Felix


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Re: gEDA-user: [Patches] GTK Recent-file-manager

2011-01-01 Thread kai-martin knaak
Felix Ruoff wrote:

 Can you set up a git repository of pcb with your patches applied?

 Does anyone 
 of you have a hint for a documentation how to do this

A few weeks ago, when I set up git repositories for my day job 
projects, I found the official documentation helpful:
http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/gittutorial.html


 and a link to a 
 webpage, where I can host this repository?

Peter Clifton uses http://repo.or.cz:

I have been recommended github:
https://github.com/plans

Many more here:
https://git.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/GitHosting

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