Re: gEDA-user: Bugs, warts and feature requests (5)

2011-01-11 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 01:03:50 +0100
Kai-Martin Knaak  wrote:

> • gerbv feature request: Add a view mode that shows only the
> difference of two layers. This would be handy when I have to asses
> the changes that I made to an existing design.

Also:

* gerbv feature request: Ability to view the board from the back side.
  I.e., optionally mirror x or y axis (selectable as in pcb's
  Tab/Shift+Tab/Ctrl+Shift+Tab) and draw the layers in inverse layering
  order.

Regards,
Colin


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Re: gEDA-user: Bugs, warts and feature requests (5)

2011-01-11 Thread Steven Michalske
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak
 wrote:

> • gerbv feature request: Add a view mode that shows only the difference
> of two layers. This would be handy when I have to asses the changes that
> I made to an existing design.


Make the layers XOR logically but not the colors.

i.e.  old layer red, new layer green,  deleted portions would show up
in red, new portions would be green.

Steve


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Re: gEDA-user: Bugs, warts and feature requests (5)

2011-01-11 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Peter TB Brett wrote:

> On Wednesday 12 January 2011 00:03:50 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:
>> • geda documentation: There is no wiki page for gsch2pcb. Best bet is
>> http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:faq-gsch2pcb
> 
> I just added `man gsch2pcb', by the way.  But not to the wiki.  BTW, copying 
> the manpages into the wiki is a bad thing.  Don't do it, please.

I didn't propose it. I have never copied man pages to the wiki and 
have no intention to.


>> • gsch2pcb wart: The net of input/output symbols is evaluated from its
>> refdes. Consequently, the restrictions to refdeses apply: No uncapitalized
>> suffix, no hyphen, etc. Proposal: evaluate the net from dedicated
>> attributes. E.g. "in-net=", "out-net="
> 
> gnetlist missing feature, nothing to do with gsch2pcb.

Well, from a user point of view, the separation is blurry.


> 
>> • gschem feature request: Sort attributes in multiple attributes dialog.
>> The most frequent ones should be on top.
> 
> Most frequent determined how?

How about: Like the drop-down list of default attributes the add 
Attribute line presents.
netname
footprint
value
refdes
source
...

I guess, this order was determined by intuition of a developer 
long time ago. Suggestion: take this list as a default order for
the list of attributes. Make this default configurable in gschemrc.
Ouups, this is another feature request ;^)

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Re: gEDA-user: Bugs, warts and feature requests (5)

2011-01-11 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:

> Proposal: Morph the page into a gsch2pcb description page. IMHO, there are
> frequently asked questions, since nobody asks questions.
> 
Erm...
IMHO, there are *no* frequently asked questions, since nobody asks gsch2pcb 
questions, anyway.

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Re: gEDA-user: Bugs, warts and feature requests (5)

2011-01-11 Thread Peter TB Brett
On Wednesday 12 January 2011 00:03:50 Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:
> • geda documentation: There is no wiki page for gsch2pcb. Best bet is
> http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:faq-gsch2pcb

I just added `man gsch2pcb', by the way.  But not to the wiki.  BTW, copying 
the manpages into the wiki is a bad thing.  Don't do it, please.

> • gsch2pcb wart: The net of input/output symbols is evaluated from its
> refdes. Consequently, the restrictions to refdeses apply: No uncapitalized
> suffix, no hyphen, etc. Proposal: evaluate the net from dedicated
> attributes. E.g. "in-net=", "out-net="

gnetlist missing feature, nothing to do with gsch2pcb.

> • gschem feature request: Sort attributes in multiple attributes dialog.
> The most frequent ones should be on top.

Most frequent determined how?

  Peter

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gEDA-user: Bugs, warts and feature requests (5)

2011-01-11 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Hi. 
Unlike the previous bugs and warts, these topics are fresh. Because I
do mostly schematic capture at the moment, these are almost exclusively 
geschem requests:

• gschem feature request: Add a modified move that temporarily disables 
rubberbanding.

* gschem feature request: Make the snapping radius available to the GUI.

• gschem feature request: Add a way to connect and disconnect crossing
nets. That is induce, or remove a purple dot.

• geda documentation: There is no wiki page for gsch2pcb. Best bet is 
http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:faq-gsch2pcb

Proposal: Morph the page into a gsch2pcb description page. IMHO, there are
frequently asked questions, since nobody asks questions.

• gsch2pcb wart: The net of input/output symbols is evaluated from its 
refdes. Consequently, the restrictions to refdeses apply: No uncapitalized
suffix, no hyphen, etc. Proposal: evaluate the net from dedicated attributes. 
E.g. "in-net=", "out-net="

• gschem feature request: An accel key that selects the "next" symbol. 
The next symbol should be chosen according to the algorithms used by 
autonumber. This would be handy when mass editing footprints, input 
nets, or values.

• gschem feature request: In multiple attributes dialog automatically 
focus on and open the same attribute as was last edited.

• gschem feature request: Sort attributes in multiple attributes dialog.
The most frequent ones should be on top.

• gerbv feature request: Add a view mode that shows only the difference 
of two layers. This would be handy when I have to asses the changes that 
I made to an existing design.

Please comment.

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Re: gEDA-user: PCB's postscript exporter

2011-01-11 Thread DJ Delorie

Fixed in GIT head.  Added the appropriate DSC lines, rearranged the
code to calculate page size before printing the initial header.


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Re: gEDA-user: PCB's postscript exporter

2011-01-11 Thread Andrew Miner
   On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Andrew Miner <[1]zmi...@gmail.com>
   wrote:

 Hello,
 When I use export -> ps (postscript)  inside PCB and set the media
 to 'Letter' the resulting images in the postscript file are
 perfectly centered and everything looks correct.  The paper size of
 the ps file is also Letter.
 If I now export the postscript as 11x17 or C-Size (or anything
 larger than Letter), the  postscript file itself remains at Letter
 size and the  images migrate up and to the right.  It looks like
 internally PCB is centering the image appropriately for the selected
 media size, but then as it is being output, the image is cropped to
 fit on a Letter size paper in the postscript file.
 I see this behavior if I run it from inside of PCB or if I use a
 command line like:   pcb -x ps --psfile "[2]xmega.ps" --outline
 --ps-color --media 11x17 --drill-copper  --show-legend  "xmega.pcb"
 in my $HOME/.pcb/settings file, media=11x17 (or other value) will
 only set the PCB GUI to a specific media size when the dialog
 opens.  Am I missing another paper size setting somewhere?
 (Fedora 12, 32 bit, PCB version 2010 09 29)
 Thank you,
 Andy Miner

   As a follow up, All of the data is intact inside the postscript file,
   but it is being told to display incorrectly in the ps viewer (I am
   using evince).

   If I use the following command:  ps2pdf -sPAPERSIZE=11x17 "[3]xmega.ps"
   "xmega.pdf"
   All of the images and text appear centered in the larger paper size and
   not cut off.
   Thanks for you time,
   Andy

References

   1. mailto:zmi...@gmail.com
   2. http://xmega.ps/
   3. http://xmega.ps/


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Re: gEDA-user: Bug triage

2011-01-11 Thread Bert Timmerman
Hi all, 

> -Original Message-
> From: geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org 
> [mailto:geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org] On Behalf Of Steven 
> Michalske
> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 8:56 AM
> To: gEDA user mailing list
> Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Bug triage
> 
> >
> > Maybe we are targetting the "wrong" OS ;-(
> >
> 
> Nope, I like my mac os install,  and engineering colleges are 
> seeing a large uptick in mac usage in colleges.
> It is a perk to have a computer that can OS X, Linux, and Windows.
> 
> > Maybe the unofficial windows ports are more important than we think 
> > ;-)
> 
> It is important to have easy to install packages.  I find 
> installing source packages trivial,  but I am not the average user.
> My colleges that want an install for OSX dislike need to 
> install xcode, mac ports and compiling the whole deal.
> 
> One of these days I will study how Inkscape makes their OS X 
> package and make one for gschem and pcb.
> 
> >
> > I will look into these statistics this evening, to have an 
> informed opinion.
> 
> We can't have that ;-P  only uninformed conjecture!
> 
> 
> Steve
> 
> 

Yesterday evening I found the following DownLoads (D/L) statistics, until I
got bored:

File   WIN  LIN  MAC  BSD  ***   SF My
 Total  Total

geda-suite-0.0.2.tar.bz210   424-1   820 57

geda-gaf-1.6.1.tar.gz  279  106   2618   420420
verilog-20090923.tar.gz 1032-325 18
verilog-0.9.2.tar.gz 822-119 13
pcb-20091103.tar.gz  841-119 14
ng-spice-rework-20.tar.gz  1722   14-2   276190
gwave2-20090213.tar.gz   821-117 12
gtkwave-3.3.0.tar.gz 751-119 14
gspiceui-v0.9.98.tar.gz  721-115 11
gnucap-2009-12-07-tools.tar.gz  1021-118 14

(incomplete)

IMHO:

1) the 147 k D/Ls looks like a (realistic ?) number of total D/L for all
gEDA related packages and files ever.

2) SF math s*cks !

I hope Launchpad does it's math better.

Just my somewhat more informed opinion ;-)

Kind regards,

Bert Timmerman.



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gEDA-user: PCB's postscript exporter

2011-01-11 Thread Andrew Miner
   Hello,
   When I use export -> ps (postscript)  inside PCB and set the media to
   'Letter' the resulting images in the postscript file are perfectly
   centered and everything looks correct.  The paper size of the ps file
   is also Letter.
   If I now export the postscript as 11x17 or C-Size (or anything larger
   than Letter), the  postscript file itself remains at Letter size and
   the  images migrate up and to the right.  It looks like internally PCB
   is centering the image appropriately for the selected media size, but
   then as it is being output, the image is cropped to fit on a Letter
   size paper in the postscript file.
   I see this behavior if I run it from inside of PCB or if I use a
   command line like:   pcb -x ps --psfile "[1]xmega.ps" --outline
   --ps-color --media 11x17 --drill-copper  --show-legend  "xmega.pcb"
   in my $HOME/.pcb/settings file, media=11x17 (or other value) will only
   set the PCB GUI to a specific media size when the dialog opens.  Am I
   missing another paper size setting somewhere?
   (Fedora 12, 32 bit, PCB version 2010 09 29)
   Thank you,
   Andy Miner

References

   1. http://xmega.ps/


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