Re: gEDA-user: How to make a mask similar to soldermask (not containing any via circles)
I want to define a zone for gold plating. If I put a polygon on a layer it makes the layer included in all the vias. How do I make it not create via circles on this extra layer I defined? The only solution for these types of question is: hack pcb. Sorry. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Advanced grids in GTK Pcb
I also need help in translation my work to lesstif's pcb, i'm was Once the core code is ready, I can help with the lesstif-specific stuff. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: Pages symbol
Is there a way to get the pages symbol (or other equivalent symbol) to automatically give the other pages it connects to? Oliver ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Advanced grids in GTK Pcb
A Warning!! I see that this site is flagged as containing a virus by a number of AV programs. The original poster should re-post from another site and maybe someone can remove the original posting? Joe T On 2/10/2011 2:04 AM, jpka wrote: Hi! I'm currently working on advanced user grid management for pcb. Anyone interested in this? Or maybe want to beta-testing my code? Example: http://img202.imageshack.us/i/pcbgrids.jpg/ (values are editable in this table) Also, currently nobody works on grids, or i'm wrong? I also need help in translation my work to lesstif's pcb, i'm was notified that more chances to see my code in main tree if i will work on both GTK lesstif. This is my first post in newsgroup in my life, sorry if anything is wrong. I writing only to web forums before. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Advanced grids in GTK Pcb
On 2/10/11 5:04 AM, jpka wrote: I'm currently working on advanced user grid management for pcb. Anyone interested in this? Or maybe want to beta-testing my code? Example: http://img202.imageshack.us/i/pcbgrids.jpg/ (values are editable in this table) Also, currently nobody works on grids, or i'm wrong? I also need help in translation my work to lesstif's pcb, i'm was notified that more chances to see my code in main tree if i will work on both GTK lesstif. I think this is an excellent idea. This is my first post in newsgroup in my life, sorry if anything is wrong. I writing only to web forums before. To be pedantic, and I don't mean to be rude...Strictly speaking, this is a mailing list, not a newsgroup. (is there any gEDA activity on Usenet?) -Dave -- Dave McGuire Port Charlotte, FL ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Advanced grids in GTK Pcb
Hi, -Original Message- From: geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org [mailto:geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org] On Behalf Of jpka Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 11:04 AM To: geda-u...@seul.org Subject: gEDA-user: Advanced grids in GTK Pcb Hi! I'm currently working on advanced user grid management for pcb. Anyone interested in this? Or maybe want to beta-testing my code? Example: http://img202.imageshack.us/i/pcbgrids.jpg/ (values are editable in this table) Also, currently nobody works on grids, or i'm wrong? I also need help in translation my work to lesstif's pcb, i'm was notified that more chances to see my code in main tree if i will work on both GTK lesstif. This is my first post in newsgroup in my life, sorry if anything is wrong. I writing only to web forums before. Nice that you start up your own things in such a short time. Maybe it's an idea to look into minor and major grid lines or dots, as was introduced in gschem some time ago. This, and the nice font rendering, are a very appreciated features. Just my EUR 0.02 on the subject Kind regards, Bert Timmerman. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: Status of gEDA - gschm, pcb?
Hello: I am considering using gEDA suite to do some design. Is the tool suite currently actively supported and worked on? Based on google searches, very little traffic wrt the suite has occurred over the last 2-3 years. Where can I find the most up to date symbol library for gschem? (Do ppl actively contribute to it? For example, are there libraries for Atmel and TI processors?) Can PCB support multilayer boards? (4,6,8?) Thanks John ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Status of gEDA - gschm, pcb?
I am considering using gEDA suite to do some design. Is the tool suite currently actively supported and worked on? Yes. Based on google searches, very little traffic wrt the suite has occurred over the last 2-3 years. For some reason, google isn't indexing our mail archives. Where can I find the most up to date symbol library for gschem? (Do ppl actively contribute to it? For example, are there libraries for Atmel and TI processors?) The tools come with the official libraries, or you can look on www.gedasymbols.org for user-contributed ones. Can PCB support multilayer boards? (4,6,8?) Yes. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Status of gEDA - gschm, pcb?
On 2/10/11 1:09 PM, three_jeeps wrote: I am considering using gEDA suite to do some design. Is the tool suite currently actively supported and worked on? Based on google searches, very little traffic wrt the suite has occurred over the last 2-3 years. gEDA and PCB are probably the most actively-developed pieces of software I've ever seen, anywhere, in any category. Where can I find the most up to date symbol library for gschem? (Do ppl actively contribute to it? For example, are there libraries for Atmel and TI processors?) I can't point you to these, as I typically use my own, but someone else here can help you with that. Yes, people actively contribute symbols. Can PCB support multilayer boards? (4,6,8?) Yes, very much so. -Dave -- Dave McGuire Port Charlotte, FL ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: How to make a mask similar to soldermask (not containing any via circles)
On Thu, 2011-02-10 at 10:44 -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: I want to define a zone for gold plating. If I put a polygon on a layer it makes the layer included in all the vias. How do I make it not create via circles on this extra layer I defined? The only solution for these types of question is: hack pcb. Sorry. I'm not sure if the code would ignore the vias if you put the polygon on an outline or route layer. If not, it wouldn't be a problem to hack that functionality up quickly. Give me a shout if you need a hand. I might be able to help. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask for me) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Advanced grids in GTK Pcb
On Thu, 2011-02-10 at 10:04 +, jpka wrote: Hi! I'm currently working on advanced user grid management for pcb. Anyone interested in this? Or maybe want to beta-testing my code? Example: http://img202.imageshack.us/i/pcbgrids.jpg/ (values are editable in this table) Also, currently nobody works on grids, or i'm wrong? I also need help in translation my work to lesstif's pcb, i'm was notified that more chances to see my code in main tree if i will work on both GTK lesstif. This is my first post in newsgroup in my life, sorry if anything is wrong. I writing only to web forums before. I like the look of that. I'm always happy to test code if people point me at their patches or git repository. Seems like a nice feature to have in PCB. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask for me) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Status of gEDA - gschm, pcb?
On Feb 10, 2011, at 10:09 AM, three_jeeps jjhu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello: I am considering using gEDA suite to do some design. Is the tool suite currently actively supported and worked on? Based on google searches, very little traffic wrt the suite has occurred over the last 2-3 years. Where can I find the most up to date symbol library for gschem? (Do ppl actively contribute to it? For example, are there libraries for Atmel and TI processors?) We have default libraries, you will find that default libraries end up getting overridden and augmented more often than they are just used. What gEDA gives You here are many ways to Make symbols with symbol generators such as djboxsym. This is posable because of out plain text formatted library. Don't let a library make a decision for you. We use cadence at work and never touch the default library. I now have two friends that chose eagle because of it's library and now don't even use its library. For the microcontrollers. I think geda would be a winner because I would write a script that took in the publishing from the data sheet and then made a symbol. Then since datasheeta don't vary much for a particular company and series of uC then you have access to use them all Steve Can PCB support multilayer boards? (4,6,8?) Thanks John ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Status of gEDA - gschm, pcb?
John: ... Where can I find the most up to date symbol library for gschem? (Do ppl actively contribute to it? For example, are there libraries for Atmel and TI processors?) ... Have a look at http://www.gedasymbols.org/ For atmega http://www.gedasymbols.org/scripts/search.cgi?key=atmega I have some symbols and footprints at: http://turkos.aspodata.se/git/openhw/share/ Regards, /Karl Hammar --- Aspö Data Lilla Aspö 148 S-742 94 Östhammar Sweden +46 173 140 57 ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Status of gEDA - gschm, pcb?
On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 18:09:21 + (UTC) three_jeeps jjhu...@gmail.com wrote: Where can I find the most up to date symbol library for gschem? (Do ppl actively contribute to it? For example, are there libraries for Atmel and TI processors?) I'd say... a lots of places. I use the mentioned gedasymbols.org, and I have my own library as well. http://git.logonex.eu/?p=library.git;a=tree;f=electronic Levente -- Levente Kovacs http://levente.logonex.eu ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: transition of pcb internal units to metric (SI, mm)
On Feb 8, 2011, at 4:52 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: Stephan Boettcher wrote: I doubt PCB will ever be a suitable tool for chip design. Why? Because a jack-of-all-trades is an expert in none. But the right kind of specialization leads to flexibility. Consider that gschem is a very suitable tool for chip design, circuit simulation, symbolic circuit analysis, block diagrams, even hydraulics (and, of course, printed circuit boards). The key is that it specializes in capturing component connectivity and associating metadata with objects. John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ j...@noqsi.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: Open Collector Error Checking
I am getting this error when I run the DRC2 ERROR: Pin(s) with pintype 'open collector': U70:2 U70:4 are connected by net 'unnamed_net204' to pin(s) with pintype 'open collector': U70:2 U70:4 The above statement is absolutely correct, these two pins are both open collector, and indeed they are wire together. But why would I want to report this as an error? Isn't part of the idea behind open_collector outputs the concept of wiring them together? Oliver ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Open Collector Error Checking
On Feb 10, 2011, at 4:40 PM, Oliver King-Smith wrote: I am getting this error when I run the DRC2 ERROR: Pin(s) with pintype 'open collector': U70:2 U70:4 are connected by net 'unnamed_net204' to pin(s) with pintype 'open collector': U70:2 U70:4 The above statement is absolutely correct, these two pins are both open collector, and indeed they are wire together. But why would I want to report this as an error? Isn't part of the idea behind open_collector outputs the concept of wiring them together? Oliver, drc2 is a deeply flawed program. It reports many, many perfectly reasonable things as errors. That doesn't make it useless: by sifting through all the crud you'll find real problems. But assume that most warnings it emits are wrong. John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ j...@noqsi.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Status of gEDA - gschm, pcb?
three_jeeps wrote: I am considering using gEDA suite to do some design. Is the tool suite currently actively supported and worked on? Yes, and very much so. Based on google searches, very little traffic wrt the suite has occurred over the last 2-3 years. I don't know what you searched. But the archive of this very mailing list alone consistently contains a few hundred kB/month when gzipped. See http://www.seul.org/pipermail/geda-user/ This is definitely more than very little. Where can I find the most up to date symbol library for gschem? http://gedasymbols.org (Do ppl actively contribute to it? see the changelog of my section on gedasymbols.org: http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/kai_martin_knaak/changelog.html (scroll half way down the page) For example, are there libraries for Atmel and TI processors?) for atmel see http://www.gedasymbols.org/scripts/search.cgi?key=atmel Texas Instruments processors seem less popular. Can PCB support multilayer boards? (4,6,8?) yes. It does not support blind and burried vias, though. ---)kaimartin(--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de Öffentlicher PGP-Schlüssel: http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x6C0B9F53 ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Pages symbol
Oliver King-Smith wrote: Is there a way to get the pages symbol (or other equivalent symbol) to automatically give the other pages it connects to? What do you want to achieve? ---)kaimartin(--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de Öffentlicher PGP-Schlüssel: http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x6C0B9F53 ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: How to make a mask similar to soldermask (not containing any via circles)
Peter Clifton wrote: I'm not sure if the code would ignore the vias if you put the polygon on an outline or route layer. It is true, there are no vias in the gerber file of the outline layer. ---)kaimartin(--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de Öffentlicher PGP-Schlüssel: http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x6C0B9F53 ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Advanced grids in GTK Pcb
Dave McGuire wrote: To be pedantic, and I don't mean to be rude...Strictly speaking, this is a mailing list, not a newsgroup. The geda mailing lists are served by gmane.org in usenet format. According to the header jpka sent the message with pan, which is a newsreder. Whether or not gmane is usenet is a matter of ideology. ---)kaimartin(--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de Öffentlicher PGP-Schlüssel: http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x6C0B9F53 ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Advanced grids in GTK Pcb
joeft wrote: I see that this site is flagged as containing a virus by a number of AV programs. I'd be surprised if this was relevant to linux users in any reasonable way. A linux virus sighting in the wild would make a major stir in geek worldia, since there had been none since 2002. ---)kaimartin(--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de Öffentlicher PGP-Schlüssel: http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x6C0B9F53 ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Advanced grids in GTK Pcb
On 2/10/11 7:43 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: To be pedantic, and I don't mean to be rude...Strictly speaking, this is a mailing list, not a newsgroup. The geda mailing lists are served by gmane.org in usenet format. According to the header jpka sent the message with pan, which is a newsreder. Whether or not gmane is usenet is a matter of ideology. Oh my, I stand corrected, I didn't know it was Usenet-accessible at all! -Dave, back under my rock -- Dave McGuire Port Charlotte, FL ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: transition of pcb internal units to metric (SI, mm)
John Doty wrote: Consider that gschem is a very suitable tool for chip design See the subject line. This thread is about pcb. circuit simulation, usable, yes. But very suitable, no. symbolic circuit analysis, block diagrams, even hydraulics (and, of course, printed circuit boards). If all you've got is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail. ---)kaimartin(--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: k...@familieknaak.de Öffentlicher PGP-Schlüssel: http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x6C0B9F53 ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Pages symbol
I would like either the page name(s) or page number(s) (if such a concepts exist) to be placed into the pages symbol Oliver __ From: Kai-Martin Knaak k...@lilalaser.de To: geda-u...@seul.org Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 4:11:42 PM Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Pages symbol Oliver King-Smith wrote: Is there a way to get the pages symbol (or other equivalent symbol) to automatically give the other pages it connects to? What do you want to achieve? ---)kaimartin(--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Email: [1]k...@familieknaak.de Öffentlicher PGP-Schlüssel: [2]http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x6C0B9F53 ___ geda-user mailing list [3]geda-user@moria.seul.org [4]http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user References 1. mailto:k...@familieknaak.de 2. http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x6C0B9F53 3. mailto:geda-user@moria.seul.org 4. http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Open Collector Error Checking
On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 16:47:39 -0700 John Doty j...@noqsi.com wrote: On Feb 10, 2011, at 4:40 PM, Oliver King-Smith wrote: I am getting this error when I run the DRC2 ERROR: Pin(s) with pintype 'open collector': U70:2 U70:4 are connected by net 'unnamed_net204' to pin(s) with pintype 'open collector': U70:2 U70:4 The above statement is absolutely correct, these two pins are both open collector, and indeed they are wire together. But why would I want to report this as an error? Isn't part of the idea behind open_collector outputs the concept of wiring them together? Oliver, drc2 is a deeply flawed program. It reports many, many perfectly reasonable things as errors. That doesn't make it useless: by sifting through all the crud you'll find real problems. But assume that most warnings it emits are wrong. I agree with Oliver that the essence of open collector signals is to in fact allow multiple drivers of the line to share it! Thus this drc message is particularly annoying. However, I do find running the gnetlist drc useful to find bonehead errors like forgetting to connect a certain input port symbol to the corresponding output port symbol, or typos in the net names of such symbols, etc. It's too bad that it has so many flaws, I guess, since it has the potential of being a very powerful tool. Regards, Colin ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: transition of pcb internal units to metric (SI, mm)
On Feb 10, 2011, at 5:58 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: John Doty wrote: Consider that gschem is a very suitable tool for chip design See the subject line. This thread is about pcb. Indeed. The trouble with pcb is that it *isn't* well factored, so it cannot be used to capture chip geometry. circuit simulation, usable, yes. But very suitable, no. Your opinion. I get good work done with it. The flexibility and scriptability that its relatively clean design enable make a flow using gschem much more productive than other simulation tools I've used. Minutes of thought replace hours of point and click. symbolic circuit analysis, block diagrams, even hydraulics (and, of course, printed circuit boards). If all you've got is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail. If all you have is a Swiss Army knife, it's difficult to drive a nail at all. A good set of specialized tools is much more flexible. John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ j...@noqsi.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Advanced grids in GTK Pcb
On 2/10/2011 4:49 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: joeft wrote: I see that this site is flagged as containing a virus by a number of AV programs. I'd be surprised if this was relevant to linux users in any reasonable way. A linux virus sighting in the wild would make a major stir in geek worldia, since there had been none since 2002. ---)kaimartin(--- True enough in that I have only used gEDA on linux, but I do occasionally *read* this list on a Windoze machine. Joe T ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Open Collector Error Checking
Oliver: ... ERROR: Pin(s) with pintype 'open collector': U70:2 U70:4 are connected by net 'unnamed_net204' to pin(s) with pintype 'open collector': U70:2 U70:4 ... Attached patch corrects that. Regards, /Karl Hammar --- Aspö Data Lilla Aspö 148 S-742 94 Östhammar Sweden +46 173 140 57 diff --git a/gnetlist/scheme/gnet-drc2.scm b/gnetlist/scheme/gnet-drc2.scm index 380f588..281c454 100644 --- a/gnetlist/scheme/gnet-drc2.scm +++ b/gnetlist/scheme/gnet-drc2.scm @@ -145,9 +145,9 @@ ;;;io ;; '(#\c #\c #\w #\c) ;;;oc -;; '(#\c #\c #\e #\w #\e) +;; '(#\c #\c #\e #\w #\c) ;;;oe -;; '(#\c #\c #\e #\w #\c #\e) +;; '(#\c #\c #\e #\w #\e #\c) ;;;pas ;; '(#\c #\c #\c #\c #\c #\c #\c) ;;;tp ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
