Re: gEDA-user: Please check for artaefacts in git HEAD PCB
Peter Clifton wrote: > Could people please keep an eye on PCB's git HEAD and report any > rendering regressions... Just compiled a fresh clone from gpleda.org. I will use it for my current project. The major work will be done with pcb+gl, though. Transparency makes routing of four layer boards so much easier. And the GL version renders more frames per second, too. > so much for the idea I had > yesterday that I'd be able to push the first bits of GL rendering code > this weekend. Good to hear, that GL in head is getting closer. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover http://www.iqo.uni-hannover.de GPG key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=Knaak+kmk&op=get ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Make vias exposed
> How would the minority go about to have vias non-tented by default? Can't > find a config option for this. No option, sorry. There's two calls to CreateNewVia() in action.c you can edit, or edit CreateNewVia() itself so that if a mask of zero is passed, compute something else. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Make vias exposed
DJ Delorie wrote: > Note that PCB defaults to fully tented vias, which is what most people > want. How would the minority go about to have vias non-tented by default? Can't find a config option for this. --<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover http://www.iqo.uni-hannover.de GPG key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=Knaak+kmk&op=get ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: New mass attribute tool: gattrib_csv
Joshua wrote: > I wrote a tool which exports and imports the properties from > a project to and to a csv file. The format is simular to that of the > bom2 format as it groups lines together which have similar data. This > way I could use oocalc to mass edit the attributes. This is great! I always wondered, why geda tries to reinvent spread sheet wheels with gattrib. > It is written in java. The keyword "java" makes me frown -- I experienced too many incompatibilities with java applications in the past. A scheme script would make my frown even more, though ;-) > The following command compiles it to exe. > > gcj --main=gattrib_csv -o gattrib_csv gattrib_csv.java With the gcj packaged in gcj-jdk of debian/wheezy I get a warning: /- gattrib_csv.java:559: warning: The field gattrib_csv.DeviceDeff.symbol is never read locally String symbol = ""; ^^ 1 problem (1 warning) \ The binary executed fine on one of my schematics. I was able to export, change and import attributes. ---<)kaimartin(>--- PS: IMHO, the ability to do this kind of mass edits should be accessible from the gschem GUI. -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover http://www.iqo.uni-hannover.de GPG key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=Knaak+kmk&op=get ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: New mass attribute tool: gattrib_csv
On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Joshua wrote: > Hey guys. I wrote a tool which exports and imports the properties from a > project to and to a csv file. The format is simular to that of the bom2 > format as it groups lines together which have similar data. This way I > could use oocalc to mass edit the attributes. Each component in my design > now has its price, distributer, manufactuer, width. height. etc etc. > asociated with it. Because similar data shows up on the same line I could > specify the vendor for all 40 resistors of a particular value with a single > edit, and then the vendor for 20 caps with another single edit. I can copy > and paste a row of attributes from one group of parts to another group of > parts. It accepts an filter file to specify which attributes to export. > Parts do not need to have refdeses before the tool can work. Parts are > distinguished by position in the csv when the refdes is not specific enough. > Do backup your project before you try it. It can be downloaded from > > http://public.laserlinc.com/Joshua/gattrib_csv.java > > I know. It is written in java. The following command compiles it to exe. > > gcj --main=gattrib_csv -o gattrib_csv gattrib_csv.java > > Have fun :-) > ~Joshua You may find that there is some effort duplication going on: http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/dj_delorie/ # sch2csv - extract part attributes to a comma seperated list (open with openoffice calc) # csv2sch - merge part attributes to schematics. To use these: $ sch2csv [-o foo.csv] *.sch $ ooffice foo.csv $ csv2sch foo.csv [*.sch] If you don't specify -o file for sch2csv, the CSV is printed to stdout. If you don't specify any schematics for csv2sch, all the schematics mentioned in the CSV are updated. The new schematics are named foo.sch.new - the original schematics are not changed. > On 4/1/2011 12:00 PM, geda-user-requ...@moria.seul.org wrote: >> >> Send geda-user mailing list submissions to >> geda-user@moria.seul.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> geda-user-requ...@moria.seul.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> geda-user-ow...@moria.seul.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of geda-user digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: SC70-6, which is pin 1? (Stephen Trier) >> 2. Re: SC70-6, which is pin 1? (Duncan Drennan) >> 3. Re: SC70-6, which is pin 1? (Cullen Newsom) >> >> >> -- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 06:21:30 -0400 >> From: Stephen Trier >> Subject: Re: gEDA-user: SC70-6, which is pin 1? >> To: gEDA user mailing list >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> It's hard to be sure from the picture, though my best guess matches yours. >> If you want to be sure, take a look in the data sheet for the package >> markings section. It will tell you what to look for. >> >> Stephen >> -- next part -- >> It's hard to be sure from the picture, though my best guess matches >> yours. If you want to be sure, take a look in the data sheet for the >> package markings section. It will tell you what to look for. >> >> Stephen >> >> -- >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 12:58:41 +0200 >> From: Duncan Drennan >> Subject: Re: gEDA-user: SC70-6, which is pin 1? >> To: gEDA user mailing list >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >>> I'm guessing based off that mark the bottom left pin is pin 1. The >>> datasheet isn't clear. Does anybody know for sure if thats pin 1? >> >> Yes, bottom left is pin 1. >> >> >> -- >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 07:21:06 -0500 >> From: Cullen Newsom >> Subject: Re: gEDA-user: SC70-6, which is pin 1? >> To: gEDA user mailing list >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Have you got a part number for it? What's inside? You could use a DMM to >> confirm, if you consider its internals. Your guess of bottom left seems >> reasonable. >> >> -CN >> >> On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 4:13 AM, yamazakir2 wrote: >> >>> I'm guessing based off that mark the bottom left pin is pin 1. The >>> datasheet isn't clear. Does anybody know for sure if thats pin 1? >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> geda-user mailing list >>> geda-user@moria.seul.org >>> http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user >>> >>> >> -- next part -- >> Have you got a part number for it? What's inside? You could use a DMM >> to confirm, if you consider its internals. Your guess of bottom left >> seems reasonable. >>
gEDA-user: New mass attribute tool: gattrib_csv
Hey guys. I wrote a tool which exports and imports the properties from a project to and to a csv file. The format is simular to that of the bom2 format as it groups lines together which have similar data. This way I could use oocalc to mass edit the attributes. Each component in my design now has its price, distributer, manufactuer, width. height. etc etc. asociated with it. Because similar data shows up on the same line I could specify the vendor for all 40 resistors of a particular value with a single edit, and then the vendor for 20 caps with another single edit. I can copy and paste a row of attributes from one group of parts to another group of parts. It accepts an filter file to specify which attributes to export. Parts do not need to have refdeses before the tool can work. Parts are distinguished by position in the csv when the refdes is not specific enough. Do backup your project before you try it. It can be downloaded from http://public.laserlinc.com/Joshua/gattrib_csv.java I know. It is written in java. The following command compiles it to exe. gcj --main=gattrib_csv -o gattrib_csv gattrib_csv.java Have fun :-) ~Joshua On 4/1/2011 12:00 PM, geda-user-requ...@moria.seul.org wrote: Send geda-user mailing list submissions to geda-user@moria.seul.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to geda-user-requ...@moria.seul.org You can reach the person managing the list at geda-user-ow...@moria.seul.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of geda-user digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: SC70-6, which is pin 1? (Stephen Trier) 2. Re: SC70-6, which is pin 1? (Duncan Drennan) 3. Re: SC70-6, which is pin 1? (Cullen Newsom) -- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 06:21:30 -0400 From: Stephen Trier Subject: Re: gEDA-user: SC70-6, which is pin 1? To: gEDA user mailing list Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" It's hard to be sure from the picture, though my best guess matches yours. If you want to be sure, take a look in the data sheet for the package markings section. It will tell you what to look for. Stephen -- next part -- It's hard to be sure from the picture, though my best guess matches yours. If you want to be sure, take a look in the data sheet for the package markings section. It will tell you what to look for. Stephen -- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 12:58:41 +0200 From: Duncan Drennan Subject: Re: gEDA-user: SC70-6, which is pin 1? To: gEDA user mailing list Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm guessing based off that mark the bottom left pin is pin 1. The datasheet isn't clear. Does anybody know for sure if thats pin 1? Yes, bottom left is pin 1. -- Message: 3 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 07:21:06 -0500 From: Cullen Newsom Subject: Re: gEDA-user: SC70-6, which is pin 1? To: gEDA user mailing list Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Have you got a part number for it? What's inside? You could use a DMM to confirm, if you consider its internals. Your guess of bottom left seems reasonable. -CN On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 4:13 AM, yamazakir2 wrote: I'm guessing based off that mark the bottom left pin is pin 1. The datasheet isn't clear. Does anybody know for sure if thats pin 1? ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user -- next part -- Have you got a part number for it? What's inside? You could use a DMM to confirm, if you consider its internals. Your guess of bottom left seems reasonable. -CN On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 4:13 AM, yamazakir2<[1]yamazak...@gmail.com> wrote: I'm guessing based off that mark the bottom left pin is pin 1. The datasheet isn't clear. Does anybody know for sure if thats pin 1? ___ geda-user mailing list [2]geda-user@moria.seul.org [3]http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user References 1. mailto:yamazak...@gmail.com 2. mailto:geda-user@moria.seul.org 3. http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user -- ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user End of geda-user Digest, Vol 59, Issue 2 ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.se
Re: gEDA-user: SC70-6, which is pin 1?
Just fired up the board, the bottom left was in fact pin 1. On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Joe Chisolm - Gmail wrote: > If the lot marking is oriented so you can read it pin 1 should be lower > left but verify from the tape reel. Look at page 15 of > > http://focus.ti.com/lit/an/szza021c/szza021c.pdf > > The basic rules are (from page 15): > > Component orientation in the carrier-tape pocket is governed by EIA-783, > which states that the > following orientation rules shall be followed, sequentially, until no other > variation is possible (see > Figure 11): > 1. The largest axis of the component outline shall be perpendicular to the > tape length. > 2. The edge of the package containing termination 1 shall be oriented toward > the round > sprocket holes. > 3. For the components where rule 1 and rule 2 do not establish a unique > orientation, > termination 1 shall be in quadrant 1 (see Figure 12). > Typical TI component orientation is shown in Figure 13. > > On 04/01/2011 11:35 AM, yamazakir2 wrote: >> >> The datasheet is pretty ambiguous, take a look and let me know what >> you guys think: >> >> http://focus.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/sn74lvc1g3157.pdf >> >> On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 5:21 AM, Cullen Newsom >> wrote: >>> >>> Have you got a part number for it? What's inside? You could use a DMM >>> to confirm, if you consider its internals. Your guess of bottom left >>> seems reasonable. >>> -CN >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 4:13 AM, yamazakir2<[1]yamazak...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I'm guessing based off that mark the bottom left pin is pin 1. The >>> datasheet isn't clear. Does anybody know for sure if thats pin 1? >>> ___ >>> geda-user mailing list >>> [2]geda-user@moria.seul.org >>> [3]http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user >>> >>> References >>> >>> 1. mailto:yamazak...@gmail.com >>> 2. mailto:geda-user@moria.seul.org >>> 3. http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> geda-user mailing list >>> geda-user@moria.seul.org >>> http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user >>> >>> >> >> ___ >> geda-user mailing list >> geda-user@moria.seul.org >> http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user >> > > -- > Joe Chisolm > Marble Falls, Tx. > 830-265-8018 > > > > ___ > geda-user mailing list > geda-user@moria.seul.org > http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user > ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: SC70-6, which is pin 1?
If the lot marking is oriented so you can read it pin 1 should be lower left but verify from the tape reel. Look at page 15 of http://focus.ti.com/lit/an/szza021c/szza021c.pdf The basic rules are (from page 15): Component orientation in the carrier-tape pocket is governed by EIA-783, which states that the following orientation rules shall be followed, sequentially, until no other variation is possible (see Figure 11): 1. The largest axis of the component outline shall be perpendicular to the tape length. 2. The edge of the package containing termination 1 shall be oriented toward the round sprocket holes. 3. For the components where rule 1 and rule 2 do not establish a unique orientation, termination 1 shall be in quadrant 1 (see Figure 12). Typical TI component orientation is shown in Figure 13. On 04/01/2011 11:35 AM, yamazakir2 wrote: The datasheet is pretty ambiguous, take a look and let me know what you guys think: http://focus.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/sn74lvc1g3157.pdf On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 5:21 AM, Cullen Newsom wrote: Have you got a part number for it? What's inside? You could use a DMM to confirm, if you consider its internals. Your guess of bottom left seems reasonable. -CN On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 4:13 AM, yamazakir2<[1]yamazak...@gmail.com> wrote: I'm guessing based off that mark the bottom left pin is pin 1. The datasheet isn't clear. Does anybody know for sure if thats pin 1? ___ geda-user mailing list [2]geda-user@moria.seul.org [3]http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user References 1. mailto:yamazak...@gmail.com 2. mailto:geda-user@moria.seul.org 3. http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user -- Joe Chisolm Marble Falls, Tx. 830-265-8018 ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: SC70-6, which is pin 1?
On Apr 2, 2011, at 12:35 AM, yamazakir2 wrote: > The datasheet is pretty ambiguous, take a look and let me know what > you guys think: > > http://focus.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/sn74lvc1g3157.pdf Page 1 and 18 show dip ordering. And the index mark refers to the bar on the top. So placing the component top side up and the bar to the left. Pin 1 is the left most pin closest to you. The bar in fact is adjacent to pin6 as well but apply the dip ordering and you'll be safe. > > On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 5:21 AM, Cullen Newsom wrote: >> Have you got a part number for it? What's inside? You could use a DMM >> to confirm, if you consider its internals. Your guess of bottom left >> seems reasonable. >> -CN >> >> On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 4:13 AM, yamazakir2 <[1]yamazak...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> I'm guessing based off that mark the bottom left pin is pin 1. The >> datasheet isn't clear. Does anybody know for sure if thats pin 1? >> ___ >> geda-user mailing list >> [2]geda-user@moria.seul.org >> [3]http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user >> >> References >> >> 1. mailto:yamazak...@gmail.com >> 2. mailto:geda-user@moria.seul.org >> 3. http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user >> >> >> >> ___ >> geda-user mailing list >> geda-user@moria.seul.org >> http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user >> >> > > > ___ > geda-user mailing list > geda-user@moria.seul.org > http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: SC70-6, which is pin 1?
The datasheet is pretty ambiguous, take a look and let me know what you guys think: http://focus.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/sn74lvc1g3157.pdf On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 5:21 AM, Cullen Newsom wrote: > Have you got a part number for it? What's inside? You could use a DMM > to confirm, if you consider its internals. Your guess of bottom left > seems reasonable. > -CN > > On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 4:13 AM, yamazakir2 <[1]yamazak...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I'm guessing based off that mark the bottom left pin is pin 1. The > datasheet isn't clear. Does anybody know for sure if thats pin 1? > ___ > geda-user mailing list > [2]geda-user@moria.seul.org > [3]http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user > > References > > 1. mailto:yamazak...@gmail.com > 2. mailto:geda-user@moria.seul.org > 3. http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user > > > > ___ > geda-user mailing list > geda-user@moria.seul.org > http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user > > ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: SC70-6, which is pin 1?
Have you got a part number for it? What's inside? You could use a DMM to confirm, if you consider its internals. Your guess of bottom left seems reasonable. -CN On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 4:13 AM, yamazakir2 <[1]yamazak...@gmail.com> wrote: I'm guessing based off that mark the bottom left pin is pin 1. The datasheet isn't clear. Does anybody know for sure if thats pin 1? ___ geda-user mailing list [2]geda-user@moria.seul.org [3]http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user References 1. mailto:yamazak...@gmail.com 2. mailto:geda-user@moria.seul.org 3. http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: SC70-6, which is pin 1?
> I'm guessing based off that mark the bottom left pin is pin 1. The > datasheet isn't clear. Does anybody know for sure if thats pin 1? Yes, bottom left is pin 1. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: SC70-6, which is pin 1?
It's hard to be sure from the picture, though my best guess matches yours. If you want to be sure, take a look in the data sheet for the package markings section. It will tell you what to look for. Stephen ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: SC70-6, which is pin 1?
I'm guessing based off that mark the bottom left pin is pin 1. The datasheet isn't clear. Does anybody know for sure if thats pin 1? <> ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
