Re: gEDA-user: Layer selective DRC
On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 02:05:14PM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: > > Yup, namespaces. Each app/module/whatever should have its own > namespace, although I'm not picky about the syntax as long as it's > consistent. > > "PCB::grid-units" "" > "grid::units" > > etc. > > It makes sense for all of PCB's built-in ones to use PCB:: leaving > other namespaces for plugins and external apps. > I am going to use PCB::grid::unit if nobody has any complaints. -- Andrew Poelstra Email: asp11 at sfu.ca OR apoelstra at wpsoftware.net Web: http://www.wpsoftware.net/andrew/ ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Linux Desktop für gEDA
On 8/5/11 3:35 PM, yamazakir2 wrote: Do you guys use your linux box for general desktop usage or only EDA? I ask because I have tried many times to make the switch to linux for general desktop usage but can't get over the inconvenience of it. I have a linux box specifically for EDA (gschem, pcb, spice simulations, etc), so I couldn't care less what the WM is. It could be motif for all I care. I use UNIX derivatives exclusively for both desktop and server duty; Solaris, MacOS X, and Linux. I never made the switch TO Windows, because when I put it side-by-side with my UNIX workstation (a DECstation running Ultrix) it was just terrible, and it never seemed to get any better. I can easily say that "I could never get over the inconvenience of it". ;) I certainly won't actually *depend* on Windows for anything, though I tend to enjoy it when people who do, and then pay me to clean up the resulting mess! ;) -Dave -- Dave McGuire Port Charlotte, FL ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Linux Desktop für gEDA
yamazakir2 wrote: > Do you guys use your linux box for general desktop usage or only EDA? Yes. And yes, this includes 3D gaming ;-) The only thing I do in windows is to print a batch of labels for front panels. I boot winxp in a virtual box for this. When I bought the labelwriter I was quite annoyed, that there was no way to use it without a runninng windows-OS. Just googled again and surprise: In the meantime someone has hacked up a way to talk to the device as a CUPS printer :-) ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover http://www.iqo.uni-hannover.de -> not happy with moderation of geda-user mailinglist ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Linux Desktop für gEDA
On 8/5/11 4:27 PM, yamazakir2 wrote: To this day I still am not sure why anyone would willing use a mac. I have been consistent in this stance for the past 20+ years when I was forced to use a mac in elementary school for the first time. I had the same attitude until they trashed the crappy "original" OS and replaced it with UNIX. It's good stuff now. -Dave -- Dave McGuire Port Charlotte, FL ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Linux Desktop für gEDA
On Aug 5, 2011, at 11:21 AM, Josh Jordan wrote: >I've had the same trouble with recent ubuntu release looking like osx. >Debian sounds like a good alternative to ubuntu even without the window >manager issues. >Does anyone use geda on osx? I have given osx a good try and found it >lacks basic features such as expanding a window to take up half the >screen, you have to buy an app for that! > I use gEDA on Mac OSX, it is great. A base os that I don't have to configure, or worry about upgrades and such. And all of the Unix goodness that I come to expect from a computer. macports has earlier releases of gEDA, but I run from git head. Using macports to install the dependencies. As for dividing up the screen, the window management is a different mind set, the maximize button is really "Make the window the optimal size" button. When I want to have exact control of window sizes I use an application called divvy. It has hot keys that I use to place windows where is want them. Steve ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Linux Desktop für gEDA
To this day I still am not sure why anyone would willing use a mac. I have been consistent in this stance for the past 20+ years when I was forced to use a mac in elementary school for the first time. On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 12:53 PM, John Doty wrote: > > On Aug 5, 2011, at 12:35 PM, yamazakir2 wrote: > >> Do you guys use your linux box for general desktop usage or only EDA? > > For general desktop use, I tend to gravitate to the MacBook, but I'm not > limited to it. If I need a lot of windows in view, the Linux box with two > monitors is the machine of choice if I'm in the office. > > The totalitarian regularity of Mac applications is convenient for general > desktop use, but not necessary. As Apple's hostility to users (as opposed to > passive consumers) appears to be on the rise, it is likely that I will be > phasing out the Mac in the future. > > John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. > http://www.noqsi.com/ > j...@noqsi.com > > > > > ___ > geda-user mailing list > geda-user@moria.seul.org > http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user > ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Linux Desktop für gEDA
On Aug 5, 2011, at 12:35 PM, yamazakir2 wrote: > Do you guys use your linux box for general desktop usage or only EDA? For general desktop use, I tend to gravitate to the MacBook, but I'm not limited to it. If I need a lot of windows in view, the Linux box with two monitors is the machine of choice if I'm in the office. The totalitarian regularity of Mac applications is convenient for general desktop use, but not necessary. As Apple's hostility to users (as opposed to passive consumers) appears to be on the rise, it is likely that I will be phasing out the Mac in the future. John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ j...@noqsi.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Design Nark
On 29 July 2011 12:53, andrew whyte wrote: > Unless anyone can see a good reason for obviously biased gEDA users > not to report this? The ASA's position is that this particular page is editorial content on a blog, and is not in their purview. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Linux Desktop für gEDA
On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 12:35:38 -0700 yamazakir2 wrote: > Do you guys use your linux box for general desktop usage or only EDA? I use my system for EDA and for everything else - regular desktop stuff, games, movies, etc. -- "There are some things in life worth obsessing over. Most things aren't, and when you learn that, life improves." http://digitalaudioconcepts.com Vanessa Ezekowitz ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Linux Desktop für gEDA
On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 12:35:38PM -0700, yamazakir2 wrote: > Do you guys use your linux box for general desktop usage or only EDA? > I ask because I have tried many times to make the switch to linux for > general desktop usage but can't get over the inconvenience of it. I > have a linux box specifically for EDA (gschem, pcb, spice simulations, > etc), so I couldn't care less what the WM is. It could be motif for > all I care. > Just Linux, going on ten years now. Interesting that you call it "inconvienent". Perhaps with the default window managers (KDE 3/4 and Gnome 2/3 all seem hard to navigate by keyboard, while Win7 is excellent IMHO). And being nearly all Linux software is uselessly named, I would imagine finding programs to be a pain at first...only at first though. But having find/grep/sed/cat/awk/gcc/git/vi/ssh/sftp/mutt all at my fingertips more than makes up for that. Plus all my music is in FLAC or OGG format. -- Andrew Poelstra Email: asp11 at sfu.ca OR apoelstra at wpsoftware.net Web: http://www.wpsoftware.net/andrew/ ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Linux Desktop für gEDA
Ubuntu 11.04 on my wife's netbook and on my notebook (watching video, sound editing, Eclipse, gEDA, games) and Fedora 14 on home fileserver (svn, Jenkins, backups). 2011/8/5 yamazakir2 <[1]yamazak...@gmail.com> Do you guys use your linux box for general desktop usage or only EDA? I ask because I have tried many times to make the switch to linux for general desktop usage but can't get over the inconvenience of it. I have a linux box specifically for EDA (gschem, pcb, spice simulations, etc), so I couldn't care less what the WM is. It could be motif for all I care. On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Karl Hammar <[2]k...@aspodata.se> wrote: > Philipp: >> Am 04.08.2011 21:33, schrieb DJ Delorie: >> >> just log out, >> > Log out? Log OUT? What's that? ;-) >> How do you upgrade kernels? > > [3]http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-kexec/index.html > > Regards, > /Karl Hammar > > --- > Aspö Data > Lilla Aspö 148 > S-742 94 Östhammar > Sweden > [4]+46 173 140 57 > > > > > ___ > geda-user mailing list > [5]geda-user@moria.seul.org > [6]http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user > ___ geda-user mailing list [7]geda-user@moria.seul.org [8]http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user References 1. mailto:yamazak...@gmail.com 2. mailto:k...@aspodata.se 3. http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-kexec/index.html 4. tel:%2B46%20173%20140%2057 5. mailto:geda-user@moria.seul.org 6. http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user 7. mailto:geda-user@moria.seul.org 8. http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Linux Desktop für gEDA
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Re: gEDA-user: Linux Desktop für gEDA
Do you guys use your linux box for general desktop usage or only EDA? I ask because I have tried many times to make the switch to linux for general desktop usage but can't get over the inconvenience of it. I have a linux box specifically for EDA (gschem, pcb, spice simulations, etc), so I couldn't care less what the WM is. It could be motif for all I care. On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Karl Hammar wrote: > Philipp: >> Am 04.08.2011 21:33, schrieb DJ Delorie: >> >> just log out, >> > Log out? Log OUT? What's that? ;-) >> How do you upgrade kernels? > > http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-kexec/index.html > > Regards, > /Karl Hammar > > --- > Aspö Data > Lilla Aspö 148 > S-742 94 Östhammar > Sweden > +46 173 140 57 > > > > > ___ > geda-user mailing list > geda-user@moria.seul.org > http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user > ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Linux Desktop für gEDA
Philipp: > Am 04.08.2011 21:33, schrieb DJ Delorie: > >> just log out, > > Log out? Log OUT? What's that? ;-) > How do you upgrade kernels? http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-kexec/index.html Regards, /Karl Hammar --- Aspö Data Lilla Aspö 148 S-742 94 Östhammar Sweden +46 173 140 57 ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Linux Desktop für gEDA
On Aug 5, 2011, at 11:21 AM, Josh Jordan wrote: > manager issues. >Does anyone use geda on osx? Sure. Works fine. Of late, it's been my main platform for gEDA, since I've been on the road a lot, and the MacBook has a bigger screen than the Linux netbook. > I have given osx a good try and found it >lacks basic features such as expanding a window to take up half the >screen, you have to buy an app for that! Basic feature? Nah. Given the general capability to resize a window to any useful size, there is no need to have a feature here. Good software design avoids such trivial special-case features. They just add to the fog. John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ j...@noqsi.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Linux Desktop für gEDA
I've had the same trouble with recent ubuntu release looking like osx. Debian sounds like a good alternative to ubuntu even without the window manager issues. Does anyone use geda on osx? I have given osx a good try and found it lacks basic features such as expanding a window to take up half the screen, you have to buy an app for that! --- On Fri, 8/5/11, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: From: Kai-Martin Knaak Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Linux Desktop für gEDA To: geda-u...@seul.org Date: Friday, August 5, 2011, 1:53 PM Colin D Bennett wrote: >> But Ubuntu team promice to remove this feature on next realeses... > > I promise if that happens, I will to switch to Debian... and from what I > have heard I will be joined by MANY others. I am already there --- since 1997 :-) It is the mother ship of distros, and the one with the largest inventory of applications. Depending on your needs you can choose between a rolling update (testing), rock solid 18 month release (stable), or bleeding edge packages (sid). There are ways to smoothly migrate between these. The social contract appeals to me, too. Unless they get overly picky with license terms, I am going to stick with Debian. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover [1]http://www.iqo.uni-hannover.de -> not happy with moderation of geda-user mailinglist ___ geda-user mailing list [2]geda-user@moria.seul.org [3]http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user References 1. http://www.iqo.uni-hannover.de/ 2. file://localhost/mc/compose?to=geda-user@moria.seul.org 3. http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Linux Desktop für gEDA
> How do you upgrade kernels? Why do you think I rebooted 60 days ago? ;-) Mostly, though, I just update everything except the kernel. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Linux Desktop für gEDA
Colin D Bennett wrote: >> But Ubuntu team promice to remove this feature on next realeses... > > I promise if that happens, I will to switch to Debian... and from what I > have heard I will be joined by MANY others. I am already there --- since 1997 :-) It is the mother ship of distros, and the one with the largest inventory of applications. Depending on your needs you can choose between a rolling update (testing), rock solid 18 month release (stable), or bleeding edge packages (sid). There are ways to smoothly migrate between these. The social contract appeals to me, too. Unless they get overly picky with license terms, I am going to stick with Debian. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover http://www.iqo.uni-hannover.de -> not happy with moderation of geda-user mailinglist ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Layer selective DRC
Yup, namespaces. Each app/module/whatever should have its own namespace, although I'm not picky about the syntax as long as it's consistent. "PCB::grid-units" "" "grid::units" etc. It makes sense for all of PCB's built-in ones to use PCB:: leaving other namespaces for plugins and external apps. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Layer selective DRC
On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 07:28:34PM +0200, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:
> Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:
>
> > Unfortunately, current git head of PCB enters an infinite loop if
> > the attribute is set correctly. The attached patch fixes this bug.
> > Now, DRC does indeed ignore the layers marked by the attribute.
> > ( I triple checked ;-)
>
> Well, it was working for a smallish pet project. Unfortunately, it still
> fails in a similar way for my real project (the large one).
>
> As a workaround, I tried to temporarily remove all tracks from the layers
> I don't want to apply the DRC check to. But this breaks connectivity and
> DRC gets swamped by false positives.
>
> Looks like I am running out of options...
>
> Maybe, PCB::skip-drc can be made to work, after all. I was able to narrow
> down the code path for the entry into the endless loop. It is a continue
> statement in LookupLOConnectionsToPVList() in the middle of find.c . See
> below. The offending lines are marked with an exclamation mark at the start
> of
> the line. Anyone got an idea, what might be the correct way to skip here?
>
> /from pcb/src/find.c
> static bool
> LookupLOConnectionsToPVList (bool AndRats)
> {
> Cardinal layer;
> struct pv_info info;
>
> /* loop over all PVs currently on list */
> while (PVList.Location < PVList.Number)
> {
> /* get pointer to data */
> info.pv = *(PVLIST_ENTRY (PVList.Location));
> EXPAND_BOUNDS (&info.pv);
>
> /* check pads */
> if (setjmp (info.env) == 0)
> r_search (PCB->Data->pad_tree, (BoxType *) & info.pv, NULL,
> LOCtoPVpad_callback, &info);
> else
> return true;
>
> /* now all lines, arcs and polygons of the several layers */
> for (layer = 0; layer < max_copper_layer; layer++)
> {
> ! if (LAYER_PTR (layer)->no_drc)
> ! continue;
> info.layer = layer;
>
> ...
Hmm, at a glance this looks okay. Can you change the loop to
dump some debug code before each continue, like, say,
if (LAYER_PTR (layer)->no_drc)
{
fprintf (stderr, "Skip layer %d, max %d, (PVL.L %d, PVL.N %d)
continuing...\n",
layer, max_copper_layer, PVList.Location, PVList.Number);
continue;
}
Then above and below the for loop add
puts ("enter FOR");
...
puts ("exit FOR");
and similar for the while() loop.
That should tell you a bit more about how this loop is happening.
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Re: gEDA-user: Linux Desktop für gEDA
Am 04.08.2011 21:33, schrieb DJ Delorie: > >> just log out, > > Log out? Log OUT? What's that? ;-) How do you upgrade kernels? Philipp ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Layer selective DRC
Levente Kovacs writes: > > If you add the attribute > > PCB::skip-drc > > to a layer, that won't be checked against DRC, and commections. > > Levente > > On Wed, 3 Aug 2011 23:56:23 -0700 > Colin D Bennett wrote: > > > On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 01:48:09 +0200 > > Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > > > > > Colin D Bennett wrote: > > > > > > > A feature I have heard previously requested is to be able to mark > > > > certain layers as “no-DRC”. For instance, to allow special trace > > > > elements such as antennas that the DRC thinks are incorrect shorts > > > > between two nets. > > > > > > These should be omited from update_rats, rather than be ignored on > > > DRC. The DRC as it is currently implemented, does not check for > > > correct connectivty. It does not detect a short. > > > > Oh, that's right. I forgot since I tend to consider the Optimize Rats > > action and its feedback as a first pass of DRC, and the actual DRC > > action as a more detailed pass... but it seems like it would be ideal > > for a short to be detected by DRC. > > > > > I think, this > > > functionality would be best implemented with a flag > > > "don-t-check-connectivity" added to the object. Put these antennas > > > in a separate layer and make DRC special for this layer would still > > > feel like a crutch. > > > > My current workaround is to actually connect the antenna input > > directly to ground on the schematic, so that pcb does not complain > > that the PCB trace antenna is a short. (See attached figure from the > > schematic.) For this specific and simple purpose, this works well > > enough for the moment. > > > > Regards, > > Colin > > > > My outline layer has thin line widths (0.1mm) that are being compared to the copper width by the DRC. I keep getting the "Line width is too thin" DRC error (code is in find.c). I downloaded the latest git code (2011-08-05) compiled it, ran it, all looks normal, except for the above error when I do a DRC check. For my outline layer I did the following to add the attribute: Edit->Edit attribute of->CurrentLayer Left box: PCB::skip-drc Right box: 1 Am I just entering the attribute incorrectly? Any guidance would be appreciated. Thanks, Sparky ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Layer selective DRC
Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:
> Unfortunately, current git head of PCB enters an infinite loop if
> the attribute is set correctly. The attached patch fixes this bug.
> Now, DRC does indeed ignore the layers marked by the attribute.
> ( I triple checked ;-)
Well, it was working for a smallish pet project. Unfortunately, it still
fails in a similar way for my real project (the large one).
As a workaround, I tried to temporarily remove all tracks from the layers
I don't want to apply the DRC check to. But this breaks connectivity and
DRC gets swamped by false positives.
Looks like I am running out of options...
Maybe, PCB::skip-drc can be made to work, after all. I was able to narrow
down the code path for the entry into the endless loop. It is a continue
statement in LookupLOConnectionsToPVList() in the middle of find.c . See
below. The offending lines are marked with an exclamation mark at the start of
the line. Anyone got an idea, what might be the correct way to skip here?
/from pcb/src/find.c
static bool
LookupLOConnectionsToPVList (bool AndRats)
{
Cardinal layer;
struct pv_info info;
/* loop over all PVs currently on list */
while (PVList.Location < PVList.Number)
{
/* get pointer to data */
info.pv = *(PVLIST_ENTRY (PVList.Location));
EXPAND_BOUNDS (&info.pv);
/* check pads */
if (setjmp (info.env) == 0)
r_search (PCB->Data->pad_tree, (BoxType *) & info.pv, NULL,
LOCtoPVpad_callback, &info);
else
return true;
/* now all lines, arcs and polygons of the several layers */
for (layer = 0; layer < max_copper_layer; layer++)
{
! if (LAYER_PTR (layer)->no_drc)
! continue;
info.layer = layer;
/* add touching lines */
if (setjmp (info.env) == 0)
r_search (LAYER_PTR (layer)->line_tree, (BoxType *) & info.pv,
NULL, LOCtoPVline_callback, &info);
else
return true;
/* add touching arcs */
if (setjmp (info.env) == 0)
r_search (LAYER_PTR (layer)->arc_tree, (BoxType *) & info.pv,
NULL, LOCtoPVarc_callback, &info);
else
return true;
/* check all polygons */
if (setjmp (info.env) == 0)
r_search (LAYER_PTR (layer)->polygon_tree, (BoxType *) & info.pv,
NULL, LOCtoPVpoly_callback, &info);
else
return true;
}
/* Check for rat-lines that may intersect the PV */
if (AndRats)
{
if (setjmp (info.env) == 0)
r_search (PCB->Data->rat_tree, (BoxType *) & info.pv, NULL,
LOCtoPVrat_callback, &info);
else
return true;
}
PVList.Location++;
}
return false;
}
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Re: gEDA-user: Linux Desktop für gEDA
On 08/04/11 13:08, Markus wrote: What desktop are you using for gEDA? Xfce on debian unstable ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Layer selective DRC
On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 04:32:58 +0200
Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:
> Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:
> The correct syntax is:
> Attribute("PCB::skip-drc" "1")
>...
> By the way, what is the reason for the funny attribute name
> with two colons in the middle? The source treats it just like
> a plain string.
Organization using namespaces? I think that is the intention for use
of the Attribute() token.
E.g., DJ has suggested for the “new grids” to use
Attribute("grid:..." "value")
to allow storing the grid configuration in the .pcb layout file without
breaking backward compatibility.
Regards,
Colin
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Re: gEDA-user: Option to not display polygons
Colin D Bennett wrote: >> Anyway, I attached a new version of the patch that contains diffs of >> all three files. So it should be working now. > > Seems to work great! Well, not all is well, yet. PCB insists to make all layers in a group to visible if one of them is made current. So you can't actually do some work while part of the group is hidden. I'll see, if I can improve the patch. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover http://www.iqo.uni-hannover.de -> not happy with moderation of geda-user mailinglist ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Layer selective DRC
Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:
> Just tried it and it works great :-)
I was a victim of wishfull thinking. Seems like I did not set the
attribute successfully. As a result, the no_drc code path was not
entered at all. I must have fooled myself with settings.
> For the archive: Syntax in the *.pcb file is:
> Attribute("PCB" "skip-drc")
The correct syntax is:
Attribute("PCB::skip-drc" "1")
The value of the attribute is not evaluated at all. So in stead
of "1" it could be anything.
Unfortunately, current git head of PCB enters an infinite loop if
the attribute is set correctly. The attached patch fixes this bug.
Now, DRC does indeed ignore the layers marked by the attribute.
( I triple checked ;-)
However, there is still room for improvement:
It is impossible to start a line on copper of the marked layer if
auto-enforce-DRC is set. The GUI behaves like there is some rule
in place that prevents connection. Probably, there needs to be
another check for no_drc at some place in the algorithm.
By the way, what is the reason for the funny attribute name
with two colons in the middle? The source treats it just like
a plain string.
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From: Kai-Martin Knaak
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 04:11:40 +0200
Subject: [PATCH] fix infinite loop on skip-drc
---
src/find.c |6 ++
1 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
diff --git a/src/find.c b/src/find.c
index 92c8b35..380412e 100644
--- a/src/find.c
+++ b/src/find.c
@@ -1172,7 +1172,13 @@ LookupPVConnectionsToLOList (bool AndRats)
for (layer = 0; layer < max_copper_layer; layer++)
{
if (LAYER_PTR (layer)->no_drc)
+{
+ LineList[layer].Location = LineList[layer].Number;
+ ArcList[layer].Location = ArcList[layer].Number;
+ PolygonList[layer].Location = PolygonList[layer].Number;
continue;
+ }
+
/* do nothing if there are no PV's */
if (TotalP + TotalV == 0)
{
--
1.7.5.4
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Re: gEDA-user: Linux Desktop für gEDA
On Thu, 4 Aug 2011 20:08:31 +0200 "Markus" wrote: > Hello, > > currently I am running the actual Ubunut Version and the new Unity > (Gnome 3.0) Desktop. But I am not very happy with the new desktop. > I am thinking about changing to xcfe. > > What desktop are you using for gEDA? > (are the any advantages or disadvantages for KDE, Gnome or XCFE in > relation to gEDA?) I use openbox without any window decorations, black background. I use the keyboard a lot. The system is Debian 6.0. Two monitors. At work I use Ubuntu something (I don't really care), two monitors and dumped down XFCE. Levente -- Kovacs Levente Voice: +36705071002 ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
