gEDA-user: some pcb patches...

2011-08-13 Thread DJ Delorie

Spent some time this week on pushing/fixing LP patches...

LP 699291 - Silk lines were created with the FOUND flag if auto-DRC is on

LP 699251 - XRender is disabled if Xinerama is detected (lesstif)

LP 699161 - All the header file guard macros changed to be ISO compliant

LP 699494 - switch Windows build scripts from cygwin to minipack
(probably not the most recent mpk scripts, though)

LP 699472 - Use XmStringCreateLtoR for multi-line strings

LP 699478 - Fix up font metrics after loading so refdes's can be moved
when the default font is used.

LP 699483 - Make toggling the HOLE flag reversible (use PIN_SIZE()
instead of Thickness, keeps mask gap constant).


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Re: gEDA-user: PCB opengl?

2011-08-13 Thread John Griessen

On 08/13/2011 06:10 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:

Who are the people, who are in the position to do so?
What effort is needed?


Not me.  I'm hoping to do some work on gnetlist scheme programming
to get verilogAMS netlists to connect well with gnucap, but have to
spend time doing housing construction work instead to counter
the downward trend of the USA to be like Argentina was debt-wise.

So, I can't spend  any time scheme programming, even though I've done
Cadence Skill lang. (LISP) programming to do EDA automation before.

Tip money would speed that up.

JG


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Re: gEDA-user: PCB opengl?

2011-08-13 Thread DJ Delorie

> Who are the people, who are in the position to do so?

Well, I'm one, and I'm trying to put effort into it.

> What effort is needed?

I'm not sure.  Launchpad needs to be checked, bugs confirmed, patches
updated if needed.  Controversial patches need to be discussed and
resolved.  We need to decide what the cutoff for bugs/features will
be, and if any need to still be fixed/implemented.  Etc.

Mostly, my point was, "I don't know, it depends on when people have
time to work on it."  We don't set deadlines, it just gets done when
it gets done.


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Re: gEDA-user: PCB opengl?

2011-08-13 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
DJ Delorie wrote:

>> BTW, when can we eyxpect an official release, so that openGL
>> trickles down to distro packages?
> 
> When people put the effort into it.
> 
Who are the people, who are in the position to do so?
What effort is needed?

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Re: gEDA-user: PCB opengl?

2011-08-13 Thread Steven Michalske





On Aug 13, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Peter Clifton  wrote:

> There is also the 3D board view stuff and "SpaceNavigator" 6-DOF
> controller support, which has not made it to git HEAD.

Please make sure this is properly protected in an autoconfig option.  I have to 
apply a patch to rip it out on mac OS X

Steve 


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Re: gEDA-user: PCB opengl?

2011-08-13 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sat, 2011-08-13 at 22:19 +0200, michalwd1979 wrote:
> > 
> > Yes.
> > Since about two months 
> > clone git://git.gpleda.org/pcb.git 
> > will give you transparent tracks and polygons :-)
> > 
> > BTW, when can we eyxpect an official release, so that openGL trickles 
> > down to distro packages?
> > 
> 
> Thanks for reply. 
> I've tried git://git.gpleda.org/pcb.git and compare it to 
> http://repo.or.cz/w/geda-pcb/pcjc2.git (Peter Clifton's branch).
> The "main" version is a bit slower then Peter's (but I expect that this 
> depends on PC), while Peter's has some problems with rendering silk screen on 
> far side.

My branches still have many of speed-improvements (and rendering
algorithm changes) which are not yet in git HEAD. They need further
clean-up and QA before merging, and I'm hoping to get around to it when
I have some free time.

There is also the 3D board view stuff and "SpaceNavigator" 6-DOF
controller support, which has not made it to git HEAD.

> Normally components that are on the far side are drawn with grey colour,
> but now I can see only pins, SMD pads (drown as expected in grey) but no
> silk screen. The layout looks the same when I use TAB to flip the board or
> 3D "control window".
> 
> I've tried to fix it modifying src/draw.c but no success, now far side is 
> drawn on top :-).

If I can reproduce it, I'll try to get it fixed. I've not noticed it
myself, but then I probably haven't been working on boards which had
back-silk recently.


Best wishes,

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Re: gEDA-user: PCB opengl?

2011-08-13 Thread michalwd1979
> 
> Yes.
> Since about two months 
>   clone git://git.gpleda.org/pcb.git 
> will give you transparent tracks and polygons :-)
> 
> BTW, when can we eyxpect an official release, so that openGL trickles 
> down to distro packages?
> 

Thanks for reply. 
I've tried git://git.gpleda.org/pcb.git and compare it to 
http://repo.or.cz/w/geda-pcb/pcjc2.git (Peter Clifton's branch).
The "main" version is a bit slower then Peter's (but I expect that this depends 
on PC), while Peter's has some problems with rendering silk screen on far side.

Normally components that are on the far side are drawn with grey colour,
but now I can see only pins, SMD pads (drown as expected in grey) but no
silk screen. The layout looks the same when I use TAB to flip the board or
3D "control window".

I've tried to fix it modifying src/draw.c but no success, now far side is drawn 
on top :-).

Best Regards,
Michael Widlok





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Re: gEDA-user: PCB opengl?

2011-08-13 Thread DJ Delorie

> BTW, when can we eyxpect an official release, so that openGL
> trickles down to distro packages?

When people put the effort into it.


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Re: gEDA-user: PCB opengl?

2011-08-13 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
michalwd1979 wrote:

> Is the pcb opengl branch in the main repository now? Is there any "official" 
> version of the opengl branch?

Yes.
Since about two months 
clone git://git.gpleda.org/pcb.git 
will give you transparent tracks and polygons :-)

BTW, when can we eyxpect an official release, so that openGL trickles 
down to distro packages?

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Re: gEDA-user: Layer selective DRC

2011-08-13 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Sat, 13 Aug 2011 19:34:38 +0200
Levente Kovacs  wrote:

> On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 17:36:25 + (UTC)
> Sparky  wrote:
> 
> > For my outline layer I did the following to add the attribute:
> >   Edit->Edit attribute of->CurrentLayer
> >   Left box:  PCB::skip-drc
> >   Right box: 1
> 
> I'm sorry for the late answer.
> 
> I'm not sure if you need this for the layer called "outline".
> 
> For the others, thank you for taking time playing with it. I didn't
> experienced any trouble with the feature. However, I'm not a heavy
> DRC user.

I get "line too narrow" errors for my outline layer, due to the 1 mil
lines with which I draw the outline.

Also, and not completely related in the current DRC implementation, my
outline layer makes pcb think there are unintended connections when it
intersects vias near the edge (e.g., castellated vias) creating what
appears to pcb to be a circuit from a net on another layer, to the
outline, to another net on a non-outline layer.

Regards,
Colin


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Re: gEDA-user: Tag-Connect TC2030-MCP(NL) footprint, expert review

2011-08-13 Thread Levente Kovacs
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 11:04:54 -0700
Colin D Bennett  wrote:

> I've created gEDA/pcb footprints for the Tag-Connect

I've done that before. I thought I made it public. I sent the footprints to
the company, I received a tag connector for free, but my footprints didn't
made to their homepage. :-)

http://git.logonex.eu/?p=library.git;a=tree;f=electronic/footprint;h=1850fa21028a1f1e69284f1f6b67849e41fe4763;hb=HEAD

tag_connector_*.fp

Cheers,
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Re: gEDA-user: Layer selective DRC

2011-08-13 Thread Levente Kovacs
On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 17:36:25 + (UTC)
Sparky  wrote:

> For my outline layer I did the following to add the attribute:
>   Edit->Edit attribute of->CurrentLayer
>   Left box:  PCB::skip-drc
>   Right box: 1

I'm sorry for the late answer.

I'm not sure if you need this for the layer called "outline".

For the others, thank you for taking time playing with it. I didn't
experienced any trouble with the feature. However, I'm not a heavy DRC user.


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Re: gEDA-user: tragesym error - help please!

2011-08-13 Thread John Hudak
   Hi Werner:
   Thank you for pointing out the error, however, I am using Open Office
   and from what I can see, there is no way to "save as text".
   In open office, if I say File->Save As, the options are: Text CSV, with
   options to change the Character set (Unicode UTF8 is the default),
   Field Delimiter, options are , ; : tab space, and Text Delimiter,
   options are:" '
   I tried Field delimiters of: tab and space, with text delimiter options
   of " and ' (all combinations), and none of them worked.
   I looked at M$ Excel (2007) and it indeed has the save as text file
   (tab delimited) option (I did not try this approach.
   (I found this somewhat strange in that using open sources tools to
   construct the symbols would not have the proper format (e.g. open
   office spreadsheet) but M$ Excel does.  )
   I did copy the open office spreadsheet file into  gedit, saved it, and
   it worked. Thank you!
   John

   On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 1:47 AM, Werner Hoch <[1]werner...@gmx.de>
   wrote:

 Hi John,

   On Samstag, 13. August 2011, John Hudak wrote:
   > The file is attached.  Thank you for taking the time to look at it.

 The cells in the csv-file has a comma s seperator.
 tragesym expects a tab as seperator.
 You should use "save as txt" and not "save as csv".
 It's the step5 in the tutorial:

   [2]http://www.geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:tragesym_tutorial

   > > > BTW, there is an error in the tragesym error statement...It
   > > > should be 'attribute' and not 'attribut'...hey, i should be
   > > > lucky I even get this much..lol

 It's just a typo or missing translation (attribute in english is
 Attribut in german).

   Regards
   Werner
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Re: gEDA-user: tragesym error - help please!

2011-08-13 Thread Bob Paddock
> The cells in the csv-file has a comma s seperator.
> tragesym expects a tab as seperator.
>
> You should use "save as txt" and not "save as csv".

If the Tab is the separator, should that not be "save as tsv"?
Tab-Separated-Value.  Excel exports files as tsv.


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gEDA-user: PCB opengl?

2011-08-13 Thread michalwd1979
Hello,

Is the pcb opengl branch in the main repository now? Is there any "official" 
version of the opengl branch?
I am using http://repo.or.cz/w/geda-pcb/pcjc2.git to download and build pcb 
from there, but I don't know if this is the right place.
I prefer using opengl branch mainly because of very nice rendering of 
overlapping traces & polygons.

Very best Regards,
Michael W.



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Re: gEDA-user: PCB nanometer git tree

2011-08-13 Thread Karl Hammar
Andrew Poelstra:
...
> Cool, I see it now when compiling on a 32-bit system. It is

Oh, I should have said that I tested this on a 32-bit system.

> caused by the BoundingBox attribute of the .eps files, which
> is written in 1/72".
> 
> To do this, the code multiplies by 72 and then outputs in inches
> -- as you can imagine, storing 72 or 144 inches in nanometers
> causes overflows!
> 
> Fixed in pcb-andrew/coord7.

Yes, I can confirm that.

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Re: gEDA-user: Automatically start wire placement when you press the hotkey?

2011-08-13 Thread Karl Hammar
John Doty:
> You have no idea what that is, and you can't have any idea without
> spending a lot of time actually watching a lot of people use the
> software. What people report is miserably unreliable as to what the
> *right thing* really is.
>
...
> Go and assist an observer for a few nights, see how it really works.
> Then you'll know what to write."
...

Amen.

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