gEDA-user: Hierarchy Refdes and Component Values
I have a schematic with seven instances of a schematic, a hierarchy. I want to give different values to the resistors in each of the sub-circuits. For example, I have S1 thru S7. In S1, I want R1=100, in S2, I want R1=1k, etc. Is this possible with hierarchy? How do the components in the hierarchy get assigned refdes values? tomdean ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: gnetlist segmentation fault
On Wed, 2010-09-29 at 01:19 +0200, kai-martin knaak wrote: I believe this started with gschem. However, I repeat, seg fault is NEVER a proper response. tomdean ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: Build geda-gaf without XML
I am running FreeBSD 8.1. Building geda-gaf fails. make: don't know how to make libgeda.xml Most likely, this failure is caused by some missing tool or lib. I think this is created by build-tools/desktop-i18n. FreeBSD has /usr/local/bin/xgettext and /usr/local/bin/gettext. What other tools/libs are needed? tomdean ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Build geda-gaf without XML
On Sat, 2010-09-25 at 17:04 -0700, Thomas D. Dean wrote: I am running FreeBSD 8.1. Building geda-gaf fails. make: don't know how to make libgeda.xml Most likely, this failure is caused by some missing tool or lib. I think this is created by build-tools/desktop-i18n. FreeBSD has /usr/local/bin/xgettext and /usr/local/bin/gettext. I found three problems, two with using build-tools/desktop-i18n and one in symbols. For some reason, I have not discovered, yet, make does not use ../../build-tools/desktop-i18n to create files from *.in # cd gschem/data # ../../build-tools/desktop-i18n \ --create geda-gschem.desktop.in geda-gschem.desktop # cd libgeda/data # ../../build-tools/desktop-i18n \ --create libgeda.xml.in libgeda.xml symbols/local directory was empty - install failed. Create a symbol there fixed the problem. # cp ~/CAD/sym/header-10-1.sym symbols/local I will look at these, but, ... I filed a bug report, https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=3075697group_id=161080atid=818426 tomdean ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: CDL Format
On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 08:22 -0600, John Doty wrote: Does this help? http://cyclicity-cdl.sourceforge.net/documentation/cdl/language_grammar.php tomdean ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: ngspice Question
Is this off-topic? I could not find (maybe I am blind?) a mail list for ngspice. Is there one? Question: Where can I find information on using scripts with ngspice? I can not find the definition of things like curplot, etc. tomdean ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: Spice Example RF_Amp
I downloaded geda-examples-1.4.3.tar.gz, containing the RF_Amp example. I built ngspice 19 from sources without error. I get a max data size warning on any simulation, but, see no strange actions when simulating other circuits. I tried a dozen emitter followers with different models and the results were about what I expected. I wanted to use gEDA to generate models using hierarchy. The RF_Amp example is exactly what I want to do. I get a 'singular matrix' error when doing an op in ngspice 19 with the MSA-2643.cir file from the tarball. I think I missed something. tomdean # ngspice MSA-2643.cir Warning -approaching max data size: current size=5.488 kB, limit=0 bytes Warning -approaching max data size: current size=5.488 kB, limit=0 bytes Warning -approaching max data size: current size=5.488 kB, limit=0 bytes Warning -approaching max data size: current size=5.488 kB, limit=0 bytes Warning -approaching max data size: current size=5.488 kB, limit=0 bytes ** ** ngspice-19 : Circuit level simulation program ** The U. C. Berkeley CAD Group ** Copyright 1985-1994, Regents of the University of California. ** Please submit bug-reports to: ngspice-b...@lists.sourceforge.net ** Creation Date: Wed Aug 5 23:06:18 PDT 2009 ** Circuit: * gnetlist -v -g spice-sdb -o msa-2643.cir msa-2643.sch Warning -- Level not specified on line (bf=1e6 ikf=5.895e-1 ise=2.838e-19 ne=1.006 vaf=44 nf=1 tf=5.37e-12 xtf=20 vtf=0.8 itf=8.872e-1 ptf=22 xtb=0.7 br=1 ikr=4.4e-2 nc=2 var=3.37 nr=1.005 tr=4e-9 eg=1.17 is=1.79e-17 xti=3 tnom=21 cjc=3.717e-14 vjc=0.6775 mjc=0.3319 xcjc=4.398e-1 fc=0.8 cje=3.217e-13 vje=0.9907 mje=0.5063 rb=2.325 irb=3.272e-4 rbm=2.5e-2 kf=1.026e-24) Using level 1. Warning -- Level not specified on line (bf=1e6 ikf=5.895e-1 ise=2.838e-19 ne=1.006 vaf=44 nf=1 tf=5.37e-12 xtf=20 vtf=0.8 itf=2.218e-1 ptf=22 xtb=0.7 br=1 ikr=1.1e-2 nc=2 var=3.37 nr=1.005 tr=4e-9 eg=1.17 is=4.475e-18 xti=3 tnom=21 cjc=2.921e-14 vjc=0.6775 mjc=0.3319 xcjc=4.398e-1 fc=0.8 cje=7.546e-14 vje=0.9907 mje=0.5063 rb=9.301 irb=8.18e-5 rbm=0.1 kf=1.643e-23) Using level 1. ngspice 7 - op Doing analysis at TEMP = 27.00 and TNOM = 27.00 Warning: singular matrix: check nodes l6#branch and l6#branch Note: starting dynamic Gmin stepping Trying gmin = 1.E-03 Note: One successful Gmin step Trying gmin = 1.E-04 Note: One successful Gmin step Trying gmin = 1.E-05 Note: One successful Gmin step Trying gmin = 1.E-06 Note: One successful Gmin step Trying gmin = 1.E-07 Note: One successful Gmin step Trying gmin = 1.E-08 Note: One successful Gmin step Trying gmin = 1.E-09 Note: One successful Gmin step Trying gmin = 1.E-10 Note: One successful Gmin step Trying gmin = 1.E-11 Note: One successful Gmin step Trying gmin = 1.E-12 Note: One successful Gmin step Trying gmin = 1.E-12 Note: One successful Gmin step Warning: singular matrix: check nodes l6#branch and l6#branch Warning: Dynamic Gmin stepping failed Note: starting source stepping Supplies reduced to 0.% Warning: singular matrix: check nodes l6#branch and l6#branch Trying gmin = 1.E-02 Note: One successful Gmin step Trying gmin = 1.E-03 Note: One successful Gmin step Trying gmin = 1.E-04 Note: One successful Gmin step Trying gmin = 1.E-05 Note: One successful Gmin step Trying gmin = 1.E-06 Note: One successful Gmin step Trying gmin = 1.E-07 Note: One successful Gmin step Trying gmin = 1.E-08 Note: One successful Gmin step Trying gmin = 1.E-09 Note: One successful Gmin step Trying gmin = 1.E-10 Note: One successful Gmin step Trying gmin = 1.E-11 Note: One successful Gmin step Trying gmin = 1.E-12 Note: One successful Gmin step Note: One successful source step Supplies reduced to 0.1000% Warning: singular matrix: check nodes l6#branch and l6#branch Supplies reduced to 0.% Warning: singular matrix: check nodes l6#branch and l6#branch Warning: source stepping failed DC solution failed - Last Node Voltages -- Node Last VoltagePrevious Iter - 3 6.24812e-1630 7 6.37435e-1490 vout 00 6 00 5 2.68975e-1490 9 5.60813e-1480 4 -1.87602e-147-1.05937e-161 2 5.60813e-148 3.39352e-162 x2.3 -1.87665e-147-1.90218e-169 x2.1 3.61287e-149 1.40025e-161 x2.2
Re: gEDA-user: Spice Example RF_Amp
On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 07:53 -0400, Dan McMahill wrote: # ngspice MSA-2643.cir Warning -approaching max data size: current size=5.488 kB, limit=0 bytes I suspect the code for checking memory usage and limits is broken. Are you on somthing other than 32-bit i386? Actually it works on an old (ngspice-17) for me on an alpha but there could easy be machine and os dep. code in the mix. How do I get this patch into ngspice?? The mail list seems broken. Or maybe I did something wrong? *** src/frontend/resource.c~Fri Apr 17 14:59:05 2009 --- src/frontend/resource.c Thu Aug 6 07:11:08 2009 *** *** 549,555 #endif /*_WIN32_WINNT 0x0500*/ #else FILE *fp; !char buffer[1024]; size_t bytes_read; char *match; long mem_got; --- 549,555 #endif /*_WIN32_WINNT 0x0500*/ #else FILE *fp; !char buffer[2048]; size_t bytes_read; char *match; long mem_got; ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: sparkfun 4 layer boards
I recently received three ~1.5x2.4 boards from Sparkfun. Took approx three weeks. tomdean ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: HV power supply help wanted
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Re: gEDA-user: Ngspice for Ubuntu
I have geda installed. I used apt-get install geda. Then pcb, gerbv, gtkwave, verilog, etc. I just can not get ngspice to work and I have not found gsch2pcb. tomdean ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Ngspice for Ubuntu
I could not install geda-xgsch2pcb. I need to look at the repository lists... tomdean ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Gsch2pcb for Ubuntu
Thanks for the reply. The repository information seems to refer to gusty. Where do I find information on the 'versions' or repositories? On boot, I see Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic I found a reference to the hasty repositories. I will change to that. tomdean ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Ngspice for Ubuntu
On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 13:28 -0600, John Doty wrote: It wants: libX11 libXext libXt libXmu libXaw and maybe libSM libICE I forgot those (or perhaps their -dev packages) aren't installed by default. Use synaptic or aptitude or something to install the missing stuff (particularly the -dev packages). If anything else is missing, the configure spew may help figure it out. Are there differences between the -dev (I assume development) and the regular libs? In FreeBSD, -dev does not exist. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Ngspice for Ubuntu
Success! After I got some of the other -dev packages installed, configure complained of missing libXaw! Before that, even though I configured with --with-x, configure did not complain. Guess I have been spoiled in AIX, Sun, SCO, FreeBSD, Etc. Thanks, tomdean ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: Ngspice for Ubuntu
I am in the midst of switching from FreeBSD to Linux. So happens, I have Ubuntu. I am looking for ngspice. Where? How? tomdean ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: Gsch2pcb for Ubuntu
I am in the midst of switching from FreeBSD to Linux. So happens, I have Ubuntu. I installed geda with apt-get. Quite a few things not there. gsch2pcb. tomdean ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Ngspice for Ubuntu
Thanks for the reply. I have tried several options, but, cannot get a plot to display. I tried building with --with-x, but that gives me 'no graphics interface' Any ideas? tomdean ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Gnetlist -g PCB
Thanks for the answers. I ignored the warning, referencing it for completeness. However, you explained the warning, not the problem I have going from gschem to pcb. I invoked the commands used by gsch2pcb manually, checking for where the odd pin numbers were inserted. gnetlist -g PCB inserts pins numbered n1, n2, n+, and n-. Pcb does not like these pin numbers, and, refuses to include the respective components in the ratsnest. This is the problem I have, not the warning! When I load the .net file into pcb, I get errors about these pin numbers. If I edit the .net file, changing pin numbers: from to n1 1 n2 2 n+ 1 n- 2 pcb included the respective components in the ratsnest and autoroute completes Ok. tomdean ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Gnetlist -g PCB
Why does gnetlist produce pin numbers like 'n1', 'n2', 'n+', and, 'n-'? The components are resistor-1.sym and capacitor-1.sym. Pcb does not like these kind of pin numbers. tomdean ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Gnetlist -g PCB
I found the problem. I had gnetman in the component search path. AARRGHHH! At least, we had an interesting discussion on drc2 Thanks, tomdean ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: Gnetlist -g PCB
I am a newbie using PCB. I created a schematic with footprints, values, etc. I used gnetlist -g drc2 and had one warning. WARNING: Pin(s) with pintype 'input/output': R101:3 are connected by net 'GND' to pin(s) with pintype 'power': U101:7 I used gsch2pcb and then pcb. I recieved an error about pins numbered 'n1' and 'n2. I used gnetlist -g PCB and saw the n1 and n2 pin numbers in output.net. I also see pins like n+ and n-. output.net is below. I can post the schematic, if it will help. In pcb, none of the resistors or capacitors are connected with the ratsnest. What am I doing wrong? tomdean G_CSJ107-4 J104-15 ADC6J106-6 J104-6 R/W J105-5 J104-9 ADC4J106-2 J104-4 ADC5J106-4 J104-3 ADC2R104-n2 R103-n1 J104-2 unnamed_net2R102-n1 R101-1 unnamed_net1J105-3 R101-2 DAT7J105-14 U101-13 DAT6J105-13 U101-12 DAT5J105-12 U101-11 DAT4J105-11 U101-10 DAT3J105-10 U101-6 DAT2J105-9 U101-5 DAT1J105-8 U101-4 DAT0J105-7 U101-3 +12VR104-n1 J103-15 R_PULSE J108-3 J103-6 R_INT J108-2 J103-7 E1 J105-6 J103-8 LCD_CS U101-2 J103-9 RS J105-4 J103-5 TXD J104-14 J102-4 RXD J104-13 J102-3 SCK J107-3 U101-8 J103-12 J101-6 A_CSJ104-10 J101-7 MOSIJ107-6 U101-1 J103-10 J101-5 Vcc J108-1 C105-n+ C103-n+ J107-1 C101-n+ J105-1 J104-7 R102-n2 U101-14 U101-9 J103-3 C104-n- J102-2 C102-n+ J101-1 MISOJ107-5 J103-11 J101-4 IO J108-4 J104-16 J104-11 J104-12 J104-5 J104-1 J103-14 J103-1 J103-2 J102-6 J102-7 J102-9 J102-10 J101-8 J101-3 GND J108-5 C105-n- R103-n2 C103-n- J107-2 J106-5 J106-1 J106-3 C101-n- J105-2 J104-8 R101-3 U101-7 J103-16 J103-13 J103-4 J102-8 J102-5 C104-n+ J102-1 C102-n- J101-2 ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Gnetlist -g PCB
I put the schematic at: http://www.speakeasy.org/~tomdean/SRS-connect.html tomdean ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Gnetlist -g PCB
I had tried the tutorial last year and iirc, it worked. I just retried the tutorial and I get the n1 pin name problem. The resistors are not connected in the ratsnest. I am using the port on FreeBSD 7.0, with an up-to-date ports tree. I tried replacing the default m4 with gm4. No change. tomdean ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
