Re: gEDA-user: Hiding individual layers of a layer-group
On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 21:41 +1000, Geoff Swan wrote: Hi folks, I've just started using separate layers so for my polygons so that I can hide them when necessary. This works fine until I group them with the appropriate layer. Ie - top and ground in a layer grouping - with ground being the layer I am putting polygons on. When I go to hide the ground layer - the top layer is also hidden. If I put them in separate groups this doesn't happen - however it seems that if I put them in separate groups the DRC breaks... is there any way around this?? To achieve the visual clarity I guess you're looking for, switch to the pcb+gl branch and turn on thin draw polygons. Alternatively, thin draw polygons in git HEAD might still help you. The keyboard short-cut is Ctrl + Shift + P -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask for me) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Hiding individual layers of a layer-group
On Wed, 11 May 2011 13:12:55 +0100 Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk wrote: On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 21:41 +1000, Geoff Swan wrote: Hi folks, I've just started using separate layers so for my polygons so that I can hide them when necessary. This works fine until I group them with the appropriate layer. Ie - top and ground in a layer grouping - with ground being the layer I am putting polygons on. When I go to hide the ground layer - the top layer is also hidden. If I put them in separate groups this doesn't happen - however it seems that if I put them in separate groups the DRC breaks... is there any way around this?? To achieve the visual clarity I guess you're looking for, switch to the pcb+gl branch and turn on thin draw polygons. Alternatively, thin draw polygons in git HEAD might still help you. The keyboard short-cut is Ctrl + Shift + P I do find that Thin Draw Polygons is helpful sometimes. However I also find many times that I would like to be able to show only specific layers (not whole layer groups). For instance, if I want to rip up all my ground plane polygons, I would like to be able to show only the ground plane layer (which is in the top layer's group) so that I can select all to select only the ground plane copper. Regards, Colin signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Hiding individual layers of a layer-group
On Wed, 11 May 2011 13:12:55 +0100 Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk wrote: On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 21:41 +1000, Geoff Swan wrote: Hi folks, I've just started using separate layers so for my polygons so that I can hide them when necessary. This works fine until I group them with the appropriate layer. Ie - top and ground in a layer grouping - with ground being the layer I am putting polygons on. When I go to hide the ground layer - the top layer is also hidden. If I put them in separate groups this doesn't happen - however it seems that if I put them in separate groups the DRC breaks... is there any way around this?? To achieve the visual clarity I guess you're looking for, switch to the pcb+gl branch and turn on thin draw polygons. Alternatively, thin draw polygons in git HEAD might still help you. The keyboard short-cut is Ctrl + Shift + P Did I miss something or is Thin Draw Polygons (Ctrl+Shift+P) a feature that has been around at least for a couple of pcb releases? Does it differ from pcb+gl to mainline git HEAD? I have used both and it seems the same. Regards, Colin signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Hiding individual layers of a layer-group
Colin D Bennett wrote: Does it differ from pcb+gl to mainline git HEAD? The pcb+gl version looks nicer :-) The polygon area is still rendered but very transparent. If this feature enters pcb-HEAD, there should be an option to really suppress polygon recalculation and maybe rendering, too. This is very useful when slow graphics meets complex layout. Think aged thinkpads, or that old desktop from 2001 in the barn. ---)kaimartin(--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover http://www.iqo.uni-hannover.de GPG key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=Knaak+kmkop=get ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Hiding individual layers of a layer-group
On Wed, 11 May 2011 17:30:22 +0200 Kai-Martin Knaak kn...@iqo.uni-hannover.de wrote: Colin D Bennett wrote: Does it differ from pcb+gl to mainline git HEAD? The pcb+gl version looks nicer :-) The polygon area is still rendered but very transparent. Ah, now that you mention it, I do remember noticing that before. It is a nice feature. In fact it was so natural that I forgot it existed. :-) Regards, Colin ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Hiding individual layers of a layer-group
On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 07:16 -0700, Colin D Bennett wrote: On Wed, 11 May 2011 13:12:55 +0100 Peter Clifton pc...@cam.ac.uk wrote: On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 21:41 +1000, Geoff Swan wrote: Hi folks, I've just started using separate layers so for my polygons so that I can hide them when necessary. This works fine until I group them with the appropriate layer. Ie - top and ground in a layer grouping - with ground being the layer I am putting polygons on. When I go to hide the ground layer - the top layer is also hidden. If I put them in separate groups this doesn't happen - however it seems that if I put them in separate groups the DRC breaks... is there any way around this?? To achieve the visual clarity I guess you're looking for, switch to the pcb+gl branch and turn on thin draw polygons. Alternatively, thin draw polygons in git HEAD might still help you. The keyboard short-cut is Ctrl + Shift + P I do find that Thin Draw Polygons is helpful sometimes. However I also find many times that I would like to be able to show only specific layers (not whole layer groups). For instance, if I want to rip up all my ground plane polygons, I would like to be able to show only the ground plane layer (which is in the top layer's group) so that I can select all to select only the ground plane copper. How about some middle ground compromise - let it switch the layers off for the purposes of selection / rendering etc.., but still draw a faded (or de-saturated) version of their contents to aid not drawing geometry which would clash with other (hidden) sub-layers in the group. Best wishes, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask for me) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Hiding individual layers of a layer-group
I was already running pcb+gl - so that was a very fast fix. I didn't know about thin-draw :P I still think it would be handy to be able to turn of individual layers regardless of whether they are grouped though... On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 3:45 AM, Peter Clifton [1]pc...@cam.ac.uk wrote: On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 07:16 -0700, Colin D Bennett wrote: On Wed, 11 May 2011 13:12:55 +0100 Peter Clifton [2]pc...@cam.ac.uk wrote: On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 21:41 +1000, Geoff Swan wrote: Hi folks, I've just started using separate layers so for my polygons so that I can hide them when necessary. This works fine until I group them with the appropriate layer. Ie - top and ground in a layer grouping - with ground being the layer I am putting polygons on. When I go to hide the ground layer - the top layer is also hidden. If I put them in separate groups this doesn't happen - however it seems that if I put them in separate groups the DRC breaks... is there any way around this?? To achieve the visual clarity I guess you're looking for, switch to the pcb+gl branch and turn on thin draw polygons. Alternatively, thin draw polygons in git HEAD might still help you. The keyboard short-cut is Ctrl + Shift + P I do find that Thin Draw Polygons is helpful sometimes. However I also find many times that I would like to be able to show only specific layers (not whole layer groups). For instance, if I want to rip up all my ground plane polygons, I would like to be able to show only the ground plane layer (which is in the top layer's group) so that I can select all to select only the ground plane copper. How about some middle ground compromise - let it switch the layers off for the purposes of selection / rendering etc.., but still draw a faded (or de-saturated) version of their contents to aid not drawing geometry which would clash with other (hidden) sub-layers in the group. Best wishes, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: [3]+44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: [4]+44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask for me) ___ geda-user mailing list [5]geda-user@moria.seul.org [6]http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user References 1. mailto:pc...@cam.ac.uk 2. mailto:pc...@cam.ac.uk 3. tel:%2B44%20%280%297729%20980173 4. tel:%2B44%20%280%291223%20748328 5. mailto:geda-user@moria.seul.org 6. http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
