Re: gEDA-user: git for gedasymbols.org ?

2011-02-03 Thread Karl Hammar
Kai-Martin:
 How about git for gedasymbols.org?  
 (I'd volunteer to modify the instructions to reflect the change)

Yes please, and I'd volunteer to do the conversion.

And while we are at it, why not drop the symbols and footprints from 
the programdistribution and just point the programs to gedasymbols.org
or a local copy, there could even be a File-git-pull entry.

Regards,
/Karl Hammar

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Re: gEDA-user: git for gedasymbols.org ?

2011-02-03 Thread Mark Rages
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Colin D Bennett co...@gibibit.com wrote:
 On Thu,  3 Feb 2011 13:51:33 +0100 (CET)
 k...@aspodata.se (Karl Hammar) wrote:

 Kai-Martin:
  How about git for gedasymbols.org?
  (I'd volunteer to modify the instructions to reflect the change)

 Yes please, and I'd volunteer to do the conversion.

 I have to say it would be much more pleasant to use git than CVS.

 And while we are at it, why not drop the symbols and footprints from
 the programdistribution and just point the programs to gedasymbols.org
 or a local copy, there could even be a File-git-pull entry.

 I'm not sure I support this.  I prefer the gEDA distribution to have a
 core stable set of symbols/footprints that doesn't change
 unexpectedly.  It would be nice to have easy access to a larger set of
 symbols/footprints, but I think it's important to have a separation
 between widely-accepted and tested entities versus some new symbol (or
 especially footprint, where precision is often even more critical) that
 may have been used only by one person.

 The biggest usability improvement for me in terms of finding new
 symbols/footprints would be if the gedasymbols.org web interface had a
 more organized way of browsing and searching items.  All users'
 footprints should be available under a category-based hierarchy.
 Some examples of how the hierarchy might be organized:
 - Switches - Tactile pushbuttons
 - Switches - Toggle switches
 - Integrated circuits - DIP
 - Connectors - Single row pins
 - Connectors - D-subminiature
 - LEDs - Surface mount


Tagging is better than hierarchy.

Regards,
Mark
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Re: gEDA-user: git for gedasymbols.org ?

2011-02-03 Thread asomers
I have to agree with Mark.  Maintaining a hierarchical organization
would be a laborious and thankless job for one poor schmuck.  But a
tagging scheme puts most of the burden on individual contributors.  I
think it could actually work.

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Mark Rages markra...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Colin D Bennett co...@gibibit.com wrote:
 On Thu,  3 Feb 2011 13:51:33 +0100 (CET)
 k...@aspodata.se (Karl Hammar) wrote:

 Kai-Martin:
  How about git for gedasymbols.org?
  (I'd volunteer to modify the instructions to reflect the change)

 Yes please, and I'd volunteer to do the conversion.

 I have to say it would be much more pleasant to use git than CVS.

 And while we are at it, why not drop the symbols and footprints from
 the programdistribution and just point the programs to gedasymbols.org
 or a local copy, there could even be a File-git-pull entry.

 I'm not sure I support this.  I prefer the gEDA distribution to have a
 core stable set of symbols/footprints that doesn't change
 unexpectedly.  It would be nice to have easy access to a larger set of
 symbols/footprints, but I think it's important to have a separation
 between widely-accepted and tested entities versus some new symbol (or
 especially footprint, where precision is often even more critical) that
 may have been used only by one person.

 The biggest usability improvement for me in terms of finding new
 symbols/footprints would be if the gedasymbols.org web interface had a
 more organized way of browsing and searching items.  All users'
 footprints should be available under a category-based hierarchy.
 Some examples of how the hierarchy might be organized:
 - Switches - Tactile pushbuttons
 - Switches - Toggle switches
 - Integrated circuits - DIP
 - Connectors - Single row pins
 - Connectors - D-subminiature
 - LEDs - Surface mount


 Tagging is better than hierarchy.

 Regards,
 Mark
 markrages@gmail
 --
 Mark Rages, Engineer
 Midwest Telecine LLC
 markra...@midwesttelecine.com


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Re: gEDA-user: git for gedasymbols.org ?

2011-02-03 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Thu, 3 Feb 2011 11:32:22 -0700
asom...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have to agree with Mark.  Maintaining a hierarchical organization
 would be a laborious and thankless job for one poor schmuck.  But a
 tagging scheme puts most of the burden on individual contributors.  I
 think it could actually work.

I would imagine that each contributor would have to assign one or more
categories to each footprint.  How much is it to ask that someone click
Pushbutton Switch or LED in a list of categories.  Some things
might belong to more than one category, and that is where tags make it
easier in some ways.

If there were a standard set of tags (switch, momentary-switch,
toggle-switch, led, smt, through-hole, header, etc.) then a
hierarchical browser could be implemented for footprints having
appropriate tags. (By mapping certain tags to certain points in the
category list/tree.)

Tags are more general than categories, but in my experience it is quite
difficult to productively browse a database that uses free-form tags.
If there were well-thought-out, strictly standardized tags that each
contributor applied consistently, then it might work well.

Regards,
Colin


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