Re: gEDA-user: Honey, I shrunk the schematic

2010-08-23 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Rick Collins wrote:

 Why do you need to use any standard sizes on a computer?  Using 
 Orcad, I start with a size that I have chosen as my standard and if 
 I end up needing a bit more room for a given page, I just bump up the 
 dimensions a nudge while keeping the same aspect ratio.

In gschem you are not even bound to nudges. My default title block is
deliberately just that -- a title block with no fixed frame. 
http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/kai_martin_knaak/symbols/titleblock/title-block.sym
If I want a frame for printing, I just draw a rectangle that fits the
schematic. BTW, this title block features predefined attributes for
the whole schematic. These can be changed from within the GUI like
any other attribute. 


 but I don't think I've printed a schematic on paper in two years.

I find printed copies indispensable when working with other people.
Nothing beats the flexibility of good old pencil sketches.  


 Can't TinyCAD work with arbitrary page sizes?

TinyCAD?

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Re: gEDA-user: Honey, I shrunk the schematic

2010-08-23 Thread Rick Collins

At 03:07 PM 8/23/2010, you wrote:
Rick Collins wrote:  Why do you need to use any 
standard sizes on a computer?  Using  Orcad, I 
start with a size that I have chosen as my 
standard and if  I end up needing a bit more 
room for a given page, I just bump up the  
dimensions a nudge while keeping the same aspect 
ratio. In gschem you are not even bound to 
nudges. My default title block is deliberately 
just that -- a title block with no fixed frame. 
http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/kai_martin_knaak/symbols/titleblock/title-block.sym 
If I want a frame for printing, I just draw a 
rectangle that fits the schematic. BTW, this 
title block features predefined attributes for 
the whole schematic. These can be changed from 
within the GUI like any other attribute.  but I 
don't think I've printed a schematic on paper in 
two years. I find printed copies indispensable 
when working with other people. Nothing beats 
the flexibility of good old pencil sketches.   
Can't TinyCAD work with arbitrary page sizes? 
TinyCAD? ---)kaimartin(--- PS: Does this mail 
render fine with your mail client? -- Kai-Martin 
Knaak  tel: 
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für Quantenoptik  fax: 
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Hannover 
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TinyCAD...   I guess I forgot which list I was 
on.  I use FreePCB and Orcad and am planning to 
switch to a different schematic package 
sometime... maybe.  So I am looking at TinyCAD as 
well as some others.  I'm actually here because I 
am using Gerbv.  It has some display issues, but 
in some draw modes they aren't apparent so I can 
switch to see what are design issues and what are 
viewer issues.  Gerbv is such an easier to use 
tool than GCpreview there is no comparison.  But 
I have to use both to be sure of what I am seeing sometimes.


BTW, to whoever took the time to port Gerbv to 
Windows, thanks a lot!  We non-developer types appreciate it.


No, as you can see above, your reply is all run 
together.  I also have this problem with one 
poster in the ZPU mail list.  He says it is 
Eudora, but I only have the problem with two or 
three posters.  Go figure!  Do computers EVER just WORK???


Rick 




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Re: gEDA-user: Honey, I shrunk the schematic

2010-08-23 Thread Richard Barlow
Hi,

On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 15:19 -0400, Rick Collins wrote:
 No, as you can see above, your reply is all run 
 together.  I also have this problem with one 
 poster in the ZPU mail list.  He says it is 
 Eudora, but I only have the problem with two or 
 three posters.  Go figure!  Do computers EVER just WORK???

I suspect this is due to Kai-Martin's emails being base64 encoded.
Viewing the message source in evolution shows everyone's emails in plain
text except for his, which have the header Content-Transfer-Encoding:
base64.

I don't know if you've already seen this message[1] but it seems you're
not the only one experiencing this problem.

Richard

[1]
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows/browse_thread/thread/7a4e64bb565870c9



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Re: gEDA-user: Honey, I shrunk the schematic

2010-08-23 Thread Dave McGuire
On 8/23/10 3:19 PM, Rick Collins wrote:
 Do computers EVER just WORK???

  Windows users tend to ask this a lot.

-Dave

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Re: gEDA-user: Honey, I shrunk the schematic

2010-08-23 Thread Windell H. Oskay

 In gschem you are not even bound to nudges. My default title block is
 deliberately just that -- a title block with no fixed frame.
 http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/kai_martin_knaak/symbols/titleblock/title-block.sym
 If I want a frame for printing, I just draw a rectangle that fits the
 schematic.

Thanks-- that's an awesome tip!  (Should go in an FAQ, somewhere.)


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Re: gEDA-user: Honey, I shrunk the schematic

2010-08-23 Thread Rick Collins

At 03:34 PM 8/23/2010, you wrote:

On 8/23/10 3:19 PM, Rick Collins wrote:
 Do computers EVER just WORK???

  Windows users tend to ask this a lot.

-Dave



:)  LOL!



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Re: gEDA-user: Honey, I shrunk the schematic

2010-08-23 Thread kai-martin knaak
Windell H. Oskay wrote:

 Thanks-- that's an awesome tip!  (Should go in an FAQ, somewhere.)
 
done. :-)

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gEDA-user: Honey, I shrunk the schematic

2010-08-22 Thread Ouabache Designworks
   The grid units are arbitrary. Use a bigger title frame, and when you
   print to A4, everything will shrink.
   -
   Thats the advantage of ISO over English sheet sizes. You can't do that
   with A,B,C,D and E sized sheets
   John Eaton


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Re: gEDA-user: Honey, I shrunk the schematic

2010-08-22 Thread Rick Collins
Why do you need to use any standard sizes on a computer?  Using 
Orcad, I start with a size that I have chosen as my standard and if 
I end up needing a bit more room for a given page, I just bump up the 
dimensions a nudge while keeping the same aspect ratio.  It all 
prints on the same A size paper if I need to, but I don't think I've 
printed a schematic on paper in two years.  I print to PDF and it all 
fits my screen just fine.  Can't TinyCAD work with arbitrary page sizes?


I will say the ISO sizes have a larger aspect ratio which fits a wide 
display a bit better in landscape mode.


Rick


At 01:05 PM 8/22/2010, you wrote:

The grid units are arbitrary. Use a bigger title frame, and when you print
to A4, everything will shrink.


-

Thats the advantage of ISO over English sheet sizes. You can't do that with
A,B,C,D and E sized sheets



John Eaton




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Re: gEDA-user: Honey, I shrunk the schematic

2010-08-22 Thread Dave McGuire
On 8/22/10 1:05 PM, Ouabache Designworks wrote:
The grid units are arbitrary. Use a bigger title frame, and when you
print to A4, everything will shrink.
-
Thats the advantage of ISO over English sheet sizes. You can't do that
with A,B,C,D and E sized sheets

  You can't?  Why not?

  -Dave

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Re: gEDA-user: Honey, I shrunk the schematic

2010-08-22 Thread Rick Collins

At 01:09 PM 8/22/2010, you wrote:

On 8/22/10 1:05 PM, Ouabache Designworks wrote:
The grid units are arbitrary. Use a bigger title frame, and when you
print to A4, everything will shrink.
-
Thats the advantage of ISO over English sheet sizes. You can't do that
with A,B,C,D and E sized sheets

  You can't?  Why not?


He means that they don't fit the paper the same way.  A, C and E are 
compatible, B and D are compatible, but the two groups don't have the 
same aspect ratio.  But there is no real need to use standard sizes 
on a computer.  Not a big deal either way.


Rick 




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Re: gEDA-user: Honey, I shrunk the schematic

2010-08-22 Thread John Doty

On Aug 22, 2010, at 11:09 AM, Dave McGuire wrote:

 On 8/22/10 1:05 PM, Ouabache Designworks wrote:
   The grid units are arbitrary. Use a bigger title frame, and when you
   print to A4, everything will shrink.
   -
   Thats the advantage of ISO over English sheet sizes. You can't do that
   with A,B,C,D and E sized sheets
 
  You can't?  Why not?

He thinks you can't because the don't *exactly* fit when scaled. Hardly worth 
losing sleep over.

 
  -Dave
 
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 Port Charlotte, FL
 
 
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