Re: gEDA-user: Is it possible to do square holes in PCB?

2010-02-23 Thread myken
Hello all,

I did an oval shape hole once by using three overlapping round drill
holes, worked fine. maybe you can do the same with 6 small round holes:
ooo
ooo
ooo

Cheers, Robert

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On Feb 21, 2010, at 2:01 PM, Mark Rages wrote:

 On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Anthony Shanks yamazak...@gmail.com wrote:
 Some parts have mounting brackets that are square, not round. Yes I
 know I can make a equivalent circlular hole that would fit but it
 wastes a lot of space doing that and it interferes with routing.
 
 
 Have you talked to your board house about this?
 
 I wonder what happens if you specify a reuleaux drill in the fab drawing...

How large is the square that you need?  At some point, this is just another 
routed cut-out.  You end up with a corner radius the size of the router bit in 
use, or else you can route a little past the corner to clear the corner of your 
square bracket.  You would have to talk to your PCB house, but I'd be thinking 
along the lines of agreeing on what router bit is going to be used, and then 
adding a layer where the tracks represent the centerline of the routing 
operations.  Wacky board shapes done by a CNC router are nothing new, routed 
cut-outs fall into that category. I'm sure your PCB house has a preferred way 
of getting the information.  They will no doubt charge you the full freight, 
though, I don't know of any prototype service that does non-rectangular boards, 
although they might exist.

-dave




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Re: gEDA-user: Is it possible to do square holes in PCB?

2010-02-21 Thread Duncan Drennan
Why exactly would you want square holes?

Set the hole flag for non-plated holes (not sure how to do that
through the gui though)


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Re: gEDA-user: Is it possible to do square holes in PCB?

2010-02-21 Thread Anthony Shanks
Some parts have mounting brackets that are square, not round. Yes I
know I can make a equivalent circlular hole that would fit but it
wastes a lot of space doing that and it interferes with routing.

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 3:26 AM, Duncan Drennan
duncan.dren...@gmail.com wrote:
 Why exactly would you want square holes?

 Set the hole flag for non-plated holes (not sure how to do that
 through the gui though)


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Re: gEDA-user: Is it possible to do square holes in PCB?

2010-02-21 Thread Mark Rages
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Anthony Shanks yamazak...@gmail.com wrote:
 Some parts have mounting brackets that are square, not round. Yes I
 know I can make a equivalent circlular hole that would fit but it
 wastes a lot of space doing that and it interferes with routing.


Have you talked to your board house about this?

I wonder what happens if you specify a reuleaux drill in the fab drawing...

Regards,
Mark
markra...@gmail
-- 
Mark Rages, Engineer
Midwest Telecine LLC
markra...@midwesttelecine.com


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Re: gEDA-user: Is it possible to do square holes in PCB?

2010-02-21 Thread Dave N6NZ

On Feb 21, 2010, at 2:01 PM, Mark Rages wrote:

 On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Anthony Shanks yamazak...@gmail.com wrote:
 Some parts have mounting brackets that are square, not round. Yes I
 know I can make a equivalent circlular hole that would fit but it
 wastes a lot of space doing that and it interferes with routing.
 
 
 Have you talked to your board house about this?
 
 I wonder what happens if you specify a reuleaux drill in the fab drawing...

How large is the square that you need?  At some point, this is just another 
routed cut-out.  You end up with a corner radius the size of the router bit in 
use, or else you can route a little past the corner to clear the corner of your 
square bracket.  You would have to talk to your PCB house, but I'd be thinking 
along the lines of agreeing on what router bit is going to be used, and then 
adding a layer where the tracks represent the centerline of the routing 
operations.  Wacky board shapes done by a CNC router are nothing new, routed 
cut-outs fall into that category. I'm sure your PCB house has a preferred way 
of getting the information.  They will no doubt charge you the full freight, 
though, I don't know of any prototype service that does non-rectangular boards, 
although they might exist.

-dave




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