Re: gEDA-user: Polygon and track spacing

2010-04-25 Thread John Griessen

DJ Delorie wrote:


I'll keep that in mind as I work.  Maybe I'll come across some good 
illustrations.


Note that I meant "pop-up help within pcb" - we already use *.pcb
files for many getting started guide and pcb manual illustrations.

Imagine having PCB pop up a hint window which itself is a board
layout, which demonstrates what you're trying to do - with text
annotations etc.  Thus, when you pop-up a help window, you can zoom,
pan, do reports, *try* the hints, cut-n-paste, etc.


Yes, I got that and think it's good.  I'll keep it in mind.

John

The editing or viewing more than one at a time has other uses --
multiple views on a large board.


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Re: gEDA-user: Polygon and track spacing

2010-04-24 Thread DJ Delorie

> DJ Delorie wrote:
> > Bizzare thought - our online documentation should be done as a series
> > of PCB files that illustrate the operations.  We already know how to
> > render those - just pop up the relevent ones in a new window :-)
> 
> And it is very compact data -- low load on the distribution.
> 
> I'll keep that in mind as I work.  Maybe I'll come across some good 
> illustrations.

Note that I meant "pop-up help within pcb" - we already use *.pcb
files for many getting started guide and pcb manual illustrations.

Imagine having PCB pop up a hint window which itself is a board
layout, which demonstrates what you're trying to do - with text
annotations etc.  Thus, when you pop-up a help window, you can zoom,
pan, do reports, *try* the hints, cut-n-paste, etc.

Of course, it means supporting more than one layout at a time.


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Re: gEDA-user: Polygon and track spacing

2010-04-24 Thread John Griessen

DJ Delorie wrote:

Bizzare thought - our online documentation should be done as a series
of PCB files that illustrate the operations.  We already know how to
render those - just pop up the relevent ones in a new window :-)


And it is very compact data -- low load on the distribution.

I'll keep that in mind as I work.  Maybe I'll come across some good 
illustrations.

John


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Re: gEDA-user: Polygon and track spacing

2010-04-23 Thread Bert Timmerman
Hi,
 
> -Original Message-
> From: geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org 
> [mailto:geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org] On Behalf Of DJ Delorie
> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 9:29 PM
> To: gEDA user mailing list
> Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Polygon and track spacing
> 
> 
> > I added this to the wiki
> > 
> http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:pcb_tips#how_do_i_change_polygon_cleara
> > nce
> 
> I added the FAQ as a pop-up in PCB too :-)
> 
> Perhaps we should get into the habit of putting these things 
> in PCB, not just the wiki?  Start popping up help pages 
> instead of one-liners?
> 
> Bizzare thought - our online documentation should be done as 
> a series of PCB files that illustrate the operations.  We 
> already know how to render those - just pop up the relevent 
> ones in a new window :-)
> 

I have still have "Clippy" ringing in my ears from some other mail thread
the other day ;-)

If you need artwork to go along with the dialog we can have a contest for
the most pcb-like "assistant". 

Kind regards,

Bert Timmerman.




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Re: gEDA-user: Polygon and track spacing

2010-04-23 Thread DJ Delorie

> I added this to the wiki
> http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:pcb_tips#how_do_i_change_polygon_clearance

I added the FAQ as a pop-up in PCB too :-)

Perhaps we should get into the habit of putting these things in PCB,
not just the wiki?  Start popping up help pages instead of one-liners?

Bizzare thought - our online documentation should be done as a series
of PCB files that illustrate the operations.  We already know how to
render those - just pop up the relevent ones in a new window :-)


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Re: gEDA-user: Polygon and track spacing

2010-04-23 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 14:05:24 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote:

> You can "select all" then :MinClearGap(Selected,=10,mil) if you want.

I added this to the wiki
http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:pcb_tips#how_do_i_change_polygon_clearance

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Re: gEDA-user: Polygon and track spacing

2010-04-23 Thread DJ Delorie

Are you pressing 'k' over the tracks, or the polygon?  'k' affects
whatever it's over, and polygon's don't have their own clearances.

You can "select all" then :MinClearGap(Selected,=10,mil) if you want.


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gEDA-user: Polygon and track spacing

2010-04-23 Thread Justas Poderys
Hello all,

I am still relatively new to pcb (switching from Eagle). I am designing
a board and need a ground pour. Everything works great out of the box,
but I can't find what parameter increase spacing between tracks/pads and
polygon? I have tried pressing 'k' but nothing happens. Do I need to do
some kind of "redraw"? Also my clearance parameter is 10 now, and I
can't further increase it in preferences menu. Is 10 a maximum?

Thanks!

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