Re: gEDA-user: Re: Installing in Debain. Nothing (at all) works

2007-05-10 Thread Svenn Are Bjerkem

On 5/9/07, somethin2cool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

For completeness:

The reason nothing works is because the debian geda package doesn't
include all the pieces. It works now. Although I can't figure out how to
export a netlist


You don't export a netlist from gschem. You use gnetlist on the sch
file with the correct netlist backend. See
http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:gnetlist_mp

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Svenn


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gEDA-user: Re: Installing in Debain. Nothing (at all) works

2007-05-09 Thread somethin2cool

For completeness:

The reason nothing works is because the debian geda package doesn't 
include all the pieces. It works now. Although I can't figure out how to 
export a netlist




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gEDA-user: Re: Installing in Debain. Nothing (at all) works

2007-05-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Stuart Brorson wrote:
On Fri, 4 May 2007, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


No matter how I install gEDA on Debian 4 (Etch), the only things that 
work are the schematic editor and a viewer for gerber files.


Please be a little more specific.  How do you run the tools?  From the
command line?  And what do you mean only things that work?  Which
programs fail, and how do they fail?  Do they say anything when they fail?


I have used aptitude, and the iso and still just have these tools.




Which version of the ISO?  What did it say when you ran it?


I am using the tools menu to switch applications.


What tools menu in which program?  How did you start it up?  From teh
command line?  Some icon?


Is there a terminal method which can diagnose what has gone wrong?




Stuart


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Stuart, what was the point in that response? Everything you asked was 
alredy covered


1) Launched from the tools menu in the gEDA project manager
2) Aptitude is a way of installing programs (on Debian based OS)
3) The latest stable from the website (the gEDA website)
4) It didn't say anything, it just ran, otherwise I would have said I 
get this error: xxx
5) No, if I started the individual aps from the command line I wouldn't 
be asking what commands were needed to do that.


To clarify, can someone please tell me the commands to start the 
individual aps of the gEDA suite so I can find out what the errors are 
(which I also said in the original post)




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gEDA-user: Re: Installing in Debain. Nothing (at all) works

2007-05-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No matter how I install gEDA on Debian 4 (Etch), the only things that 
work are the schematic editor and a viewer for gerber files.


My problem EXACTLY

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=43419



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gEDA-user: Re: Installing in Debain. Nothing (at all) works

2007-05-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Stuart Brorson wrote:



Again, which one?  Did you install the RPMs?  Or the CD (OK, you said
the CD).  And as for Debian, there are a bazillion different revisions
which you can get from teh Debain site:

http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=gedasearchon=namessubword=1version=allrelease=all 



No RPMs. I just type aptitude install geda and Debian does everything. 
 The version installed would be that in the stable repository for Etch. 
I don't know which that is until I get back to my machine.


I've also installed from the CD (current stable).



Schematic capture - gschem
netlisting - gnetlist
forward annotate to layout - gsch2pcb
PCB layout - pcb



Excellent, thanks very much.

I'll find out as much as I can now and see what's up



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Re: gEDA-user: Re: Installing in Debain. Nothing (at all) works

2007-05-04 Thread Stuart Brorson

There are two things to keep in mind:

1.  At least last year, Ubuntu was a uniquely crippled distro.  Yes,
it's bright and shiny and has lots of buttons for newbies to press,
but it lacks certain software development tools requried for the CD
installer to work.  It also lacks the relevant include files for many
packages. If you want to use the CD installer, make sure you have all
the *-devel stuff installed.  A list of required packages was posted
on this e-mail list just a few days ago.

2.  GEDA's tools are generally used from teh command line.  If you're
a Linux newbie, and are expecting to just push buttons and have stuff
work, then you're in for frustration and disappointment.  Please
spend some time browsing the wiki and familiarizing yourself with the
tutorials and other materials.  They talk about how to use gEDA from
the command line.

Stuart


On Fri, 4 May 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Stuart Brorson wrote:



Again, which one?  Did you install the RPMs?  Or the CD (OK, you said
the CD).  And as for Debian, there are a bazillion different revisions
which you can get from teh Debain site:

http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=gedasearchon=namessubword=1version=allrelease=all 


No RPMs. I just type aptitude install geda and Debian does everything.  The 
version installed would be that in the stable repository for Etch. I don't 
know which that is until I get back to my machine.


I've also installed from the CD (current stable).



Schematic capture - gschem
netlisting - gnetlist
forward annotate to layout - gsch2pcb
PCB layout - pcb



Excellent, thanks very much.

I'll find out as much as I can now and see what's up



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Re: gEDA-user: Re: Installing in Debain. Nothing (at all) works

2007-05-04 Thread al davis
On Friday 04 May 2007, Stuart Brorson wrote:
 1.  At least last year, Ubuntu was a uniquely crippled
 distro.  Yes, it's bright and shiny and has lots of buttons
 for newbies to press, but it lacks certain software
 development tools requried for the CD installer to work.  It
 also lacks the relevant include files for many packages. If
 you want to use the CD installer, make sure you have all the
 *-devel stuff installed.

You gotta be kidding.  Just because the packages installed by 
default are not the ones you would choose does not make 
it uniquely crippled.  All of the important tools are there, 
but some are not installed by default.  All you need to do 
is apt-get install  .  In this regard, it is no different 
from Debian, which installs even less by default.  In my 
opinion, even Debian installs too much by default.

If some other distribution loads up your disk by automatically 
installing all kinds of stuff in anticipation, I consider that 
to be a defect.  But I will be honest in this, and say that is 
why we have several to choose from, so you can choose what you 
like.


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