Re: gEDA-user: Restrict facility?

2010-11-10 Thread Markus Hitter


Am 10.11.2010 um 06:09 schrieb DJ Delorie:


  a) There is no such facility.


This one.  We've been talking about a redesign to pcb's internals that
would allow support for this, but at the moment, we don't have it.


Isn't there the route layer? I've seen special handling of this  
layer in many source code files, but didn't test yet, what it  
actually does.



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Re: gEDA-user: Restrict facility?

2010-11-10 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 00:09:50 -0500
DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com wrote:

 
a) There is no such facility.
 
 This one.  We've been talking about a redesign to pcb's internals that
 would allow support for this, but at the moment, we don't have it.

Could you emulate it in the current version of pcb by drawing a
rectangle/polygon on the area you wish to become the keep-out region?
Would the autorouter then avoid it?

Regards,
Colin


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Re: gEDA-user: Restrict facility?

2010-11-10 Thread Dietmar Schmunkamp
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Am 10.11.2010 19:06, schrieb Colin D Bennett:
 On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 00:09:50 -0500
 DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com wrote:
 

   a) There is no such facility.

 This one.  We've been talking about a redesign to pcb's internals that
 would allow support for this, but at the moment, we don't have it.
 
 Could you emulate it in the current version of pcb by drawing a
 rectangle/polygon on the area you wish to become the keep-out region?
 Would the autorouter then avoid it?
 
 Regards,
 Colin
 
 
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The trick with the rectangle works, I used it on my board to separate
the control section (TTL) of a solid state relais from the 220 V
section. The autorouter kept the digital signals on one side and the 220
V signals on the other side.
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Re: gEDA-user: Restrict facility?

2010-11-10 Thread Colin D Bennett
On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 22:00:16 +0100
Dietmar Schmunkamp diet...@schmunkamp.name wrote:

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 Am 10.11.2010 19:06, schrieb Colin D Bennett:
  On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 00:09:50 -0500
  DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com wrote:
  
 
a) There is no such facility.
 
  This one.  We've been talking about a redesign to pcb's internals
  that would allow support for this, but at the moment, we don't
  have it.
  
  Could you emulate it in the current version of pcb by drawing a
  rectangle/polygon on the area you wish to become the keep-out
  region? Would the autorouter then avoid it?
  
 The trick with the rectangle works, I used it on my board to separate
 the control section (TTL) of a solid state relais from the 220 V
 section. The autorouter kept the digital signals on one side and the
 220 V signals on the other side.

Good to hear.  Also, I just ran across Chapter 4 in the pcb user
manual, which covers the autorouter.  It mentions a slightly different
method of drawing “continuous lines” to define keep-out zones.

Regards,
Colin


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gEDA-user: Restrict facility?

2010-11-09 Thread Cam Farnell

I am looking at migrating from Eagle to PCB and thus am a complete newbie to 
PCB, although an old hand at printed circuit boards.

Eagle has a facility, both in component packages and on the board, where you can create 
rectangular areas that are no go for the router. I've spent some time 
looking, thus far without success, to see if there is an equivalent facility in PCB. That 
could be because:

 a) There is no such facility.
 b) The manual fails to mention it.
 c) It's there but I'm just missing it.

Can anyone confirm that such a facility does/does-not exist? In Eagle these are called 
restrict layers but searching the geda archive for restrict yielded only some 
acrimonious discussion about GPL.

Thanks

Cam Farnell


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Re: gEDA-user: Restrict facility?

2010-11-09 Thread DJ Delorie

   a) There is no such facility.

This one.  We've been talking about a redesign to pcb's internals that
would allow support for this, but at the moment, we don't have it.


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Re: gEDA-user: Restrict facility?

2010-11-09 Thread Rick Collins
You might want to take a look at FreePCB.  This is a Windows based 
PCB layout tool that interfaces to an autorouter which does support 
keepout regions for the router.  www.freepcb.com


Rick


At 09:47 PM 11/9/2010, you wrote:
I am looking at migrating from Eagle to PCB and thus am a complete 
newbie to PCB, although an old hand at printed circuit boards.


Eagle has a facility, both in component packages and on the board, 
where you can create rectangular areas that are no go for the 
router. I've spent some time looking, thus far without success, to 
see if there is an equivalent facility in PCB. That could be because:


 a) There is no such facility.
 b) The manual fails to mention it.
 c) It's there but I'm just missing it.

Can anyone confirm that such a facility does/does-not exist? In 
Eagle these are called restrict layers but searching the geda 
archive for restrict yielded only some acrimonious discussion about GPL.


Thanks

Cam Farnell


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