Re: gEDA-user: Some Linux distros to consider
On Thursday 29 March 2007 01:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Debian. debian unstable That gets you versions: geda: 20060123-1 20061020 verilog: 0.8-4.2 xcircuit: 3.6.78.dfsg-1 pcb: 20060822-1 gnucap 0.35 gwave 20031224 gtkwave v1.3.81 Non-linux: Net-BSD (also has gEDA packages) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Some Linux distros to consider
I did some tests a while back, and tried to be unbiased, but that can't be. They are all good, but have different personalities. You need to pick the one that best fits you, and don't worry if someone else picks something different. Gentoo: source based, difficult install, but you learn and customize. Lots of packages. compiles everything. Fedora: RPM packages. good beginner distro, particularly if you have a poor net connection. Not as many packages. Enough on CD to be useful without net. Not so strict about being Free. Ubuntu: DEB packages. good beginner distro, has Debian apps, so good gEDA support. Lots of packages, because of Debian. More stable than Debian testing. Can do minimal install without net, but really need net install to be useful. Has some apps that Debian leaves out due to licensing. Debian stable: DEB packages. Good for servers. Too stable for desktop. Tends to have old packages. New release coming. Good net connection essential. Has gEDA, but too old. Strict about being Free. Debian testing: DEB packages. Good for desktop. Lots of packages. Moderately current and stable. Good net connection essential. Has gEDA, some latest, some not, but close enough to be useful. Strict about being Free. Debian unstable: DEB packges. Good for desktop. Lots of packages. Usually the latest stable release of apps. Has gEDA, usually latest stable releases of apps, not development snapshots. Strict about being Free. Slackware: .tar.gz packages. If you love unix as unix. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Some Linux distros to consider
On 3/29/07, al davis wrote: Fedora: RPM packages. good beginner distro, particularly if you have a poor net connection. Not as many packages. Enough on CD to be useful without net. Hello, Actually it is not very encouraging for a fedora packager (me) or any other distro X packager to see such a thread. However if there are any comments and suggestions on geda packages at the Fedora Project, I'll be happy to hear from you. chitlesh [AT] fedoraproject DOT org Not so strict about being Free. This is NOT true. As from the next fedora buildsystem release (tonight): Fedora users will be having: geda-gattrib-20070216-1.fc6 libgeda-20070216-1.fc6 geda-gschem-20070216-1.fc6 libgeda-devel-20070216-1.fc6 libgeda-doc-20070216-1.fc6 geda-gsymcheck-20070216-1.fc6 geda-symbols-20070216-1.fc6 geda-examples-20070216-1.fc6 geda-docs-20070216-1.fc6 geda-gnetlist-20070216-1.fc6 geda-utils-20070216-1.fc6 regards, Chitlesh -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Some Linux distros to consider
I'm pretty sure gEDA will work well with any distro out there. My goal here was to find one that I can download, burn, install, have the latest version of firefox and openoffice, and then install gEDA with minimum hassle. Also, I've been following some of the distros I second Larry's and Al's opinion. Use Debian. I had been using Debian since 1998 and other distros before that. gEDA and associated stuff is available in the Debian. I suggest using Debian testing or unstable branch. I run the unstable branch and update the packages every weekend. -- Ramakrishnan - VU3RDD ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Some Linux distros to consider
Jason Elder wrote: [...] Finally I settled on OpenSUSE 10.2 with the GNOME desktop. SUSE has older versions of both firefox and openoffice, but needed to make a choice so I settled on this one. I really like it, especially the GNOME desktop with the X-sumthin-or-other that adds desktop effects with an open-gl enabled card (I have an nvidia 5500). The effects are really cool...I like the way I can make the desktops become cube faces and switch between each one using ctrl+alt+left-mouse-click. I don't know what the package is..I'll post it if there's interest. It's really cool! I hope I did not overlook some post and someone had already done this, but I want to point out that there are some RPMs for openSuse available. The following list shows what is available for 10.2: http://software.opensuse.org/download/home:/werner2101/openSUSE_10.2/repodata/ Those files are available from Suse 9.3 to openSuse 10.2 and can be found in the respective subfolder from here: http://software.opensuse.org/download/home:/werner2101/ Cheers, Guenter ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Some Linux distros to consider
The Gentoo install is time consuming and sometimes tricky, but the end result beats everything I have tried. Installation of gEDA is as simple as emerge geda (unless you want the nightly snapshots of course). Gentoo has more scientific/engineering packages than anything I have seen ; and, you can stay on the bleeding edge - if you prefer that. Additionally, the documentation is, without a doubt, the best set of Linux docs on the web. If you can get past the install and learn the basics of portage, you have no reason to use anything else. Ryan ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Some Linux distros to consider
I like Gentoo for me. I like how it manages packages and avoids the dependency from out of date libraries. I installed the latest redhat on a machine recently and it felt like installing XP. It was beautiful. That machine will probably stay with redhat, but my kids use it for web surfing. Its not one that I use regularly. My $0.02. --- Ryan Seal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Gentoo install is time consuming and sometimes tricky, but the end result beats everything I have tried. Installation of gEDA is as simple as emerge geda (unless you want the nightly snapshots of course). Gentoo has more scientific/engineering packages than anything I have seen ; and, you can stay on the bleeding edge - if you prefer that. Additionally, the documentation is, without a doubt, the best set of Linux docs on the web. If you can get past the install and learn the basics of portage, you have no reason to use anything else. Ryan ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user hello ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Some Linux distros to consider
I like Gentoo for me. I like how it manages packages and avoids the dependency from out of date libraries. I installed the latest redhat on a machine recently and it felt like installing XP. It was beautiful. That machine will probably stay with redhat, but my kids use it for web surfing. Its not one that I use regularly. My $0.02. --- Ryan Seal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Gentoo install is time consuming and sometimes tricky, but the end result beats everything I have tried. Installation of gEDA is as simple as emerge geda (unless you want the nightly snapshots of course). Gentoo has more scientific/engineering packages than anything I have seen ; and, you can stay on the bleeding edge - if you prefer that. Additionally, the documentation is, without a doubt, the best set of Linux docs on the web. If you can get past the install and learn the basics of portage, you have no reason to use anything else. Ryan ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user hello ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Some Linux distros to consider
Jason Elder wrote: . Conclusion - 1. OpenSUSE works well, the development packs need to be installed post-install (I opened the software installer and selected every package that had development in the name). 2. Slackware - This distro should work well...I think that if you choose full install, it installs all of the packages including the development ones. You may also want to choose the GNOME desktop as your default desktop during installation. 3. Ubuntu - This distro should also work well, just be sure that the devel packs are installed or be sure to install them post-OS install. I'm pretty sure gEDA will work well with any distro out there. My goal here was to find one that I can download, burn, install, have the latest version of firefox and openoffice, and then install gEDA with minimum hassle. Also, I've been following some of the distros on distrowatch.com and I think many new distro updates will have the latest version of firefox and openoffice. I just wanted to get up and running with gEDA. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user I also recently installed geda on SuSe 10.2. Had some problems with the SuSe net install due to ftp timing out; it went much better from the CD images. geda install went much more smoothly than in the past (Thanks Stuart!). Have run gschem, pcb, and gerbv only so far. My last challenge was to see if I could build lesstif hid version of pcb. I can't seem to find all the dependencies missing on the SuSe 10.2 distro. Anyone have any hints? Thanks, Joe T ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Some Linux distros to consider
My last challenge was to see if I could build lesstif hid version of pcb. I can't seem to find all the dependencies missing on the SuSe 10.2 distro. Anyone have any hints? On fedora, you need lesstif and lesstif-devel ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Some Linux distros to consider
I used to use SuSE 9.0 on a PII but that failed eventually. (HDD crash) SuSE is good for starters but 9.0 wouldn't build later versions of gEDA for some reason. (that might have been related to the HDD problem) I used SuSE starting on version 6.3 and stayed until 9.2. I am currently on gentoo. I agree it is not for beginners but if you follow their directions it works really well. Well enough to justify the initial frustration of figuring out all the nuts and bolts of things SuSE did automatically. -- http://www.coe.neu.edu/~efoss/ http://evanfoss.googlepages.com/ ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: Some Linux distros to consider
I recently installed linux on my machine for the sole purpose to install gEDA. I went through a couple of Linux installations before I got gEDA to work and I would like to share my feedback. (Short answer below...see conclusion) There were 3 criteria I wanted the distro to fulfill be fore I chose: 1) It had to have Firefox 2.0 or later, 2) It had to have the latest version of OpenOffice, 3) I wanted the source code as well as development packages to be installed with a full install of the distro. First I tried Slackware 11.0. I've known about/used Slackware since about version 3.4. I really like the way Slackware has progressed and kept up with new packages. I would be using Slackware except that with 11.0, it comes with Firefox 1.5 and does not come with OpenOffice. Call me lazy, I just wanted everything ready to go right after the immediate installation. I didn't even install gEDA before I reformatted and tried again. Next I tried Ubuntu. I've tried this distro in the past and liked it. I think it has a good installer and a lot of features. I'm not sure why I didn't go with this one (it's been 6 wks since I installed it) but it might be because it has an older version of OpenOffice. I didn't install gEDA on this one either. Finally I settled on OpenSUSE 10.2 with the GNOME desktop. SUSE has older versions of both firefox and openoffice, but needed to make a choice so I settled on this one. I really like it, especially the GNOME desktop with the X-sumthin-or-other that adds desktop effects with an open-gl enabled card (I have an nvidia 5500). The effects are really cool...I like the way I can make the desktops become cube faces and switch between each one using ctrl+alt+left-mouse-click. I don't know what the package is..I'll post it if there's interest. It's really cool! Ok, back to gEDAI couldn't get gEDA to install after I installed SUSE. I needed to the install development packages to please(which I believe requires/says to install the devel pkgs in one of the gEDA files...I just didn't bother to read it). Also, I assumed they were installed since I chose a full installation with the SUSE installer. So after 2 failed installs, 1 gEDA upgrade, 1 new user addition(I was using root as my primary user-sorry to all you purists out there!) and 1 sucessful install I was able to get gschem running. I didn't have time to try out the other apps, but what I need to do is follow the tutorial, so that will be the next thing I do. I am excited about using this software though...I've worked with various other schematic capture and layout apps and I believe I will be able to create designs with gEDA just as I created them with the other apps. Conclusion - 1. OpenSUSE works well, the development packs need to be installed post-install (I opened the software installer and selected every package that had development in the name). 2. Slackware - This distro should work well...I think that if you choose full install, it installs all of the packages including the development ones. You may also want to choose the GNOME desktop as your default desktop during installation. 3. Ubuntu - This distro should also work well, just be sure that the devel packs are installed or be sure to install them post-OS install. I'm pretty sure gEDA will work well with any distro out there. My goal here was to find one that I can download, burn, install, have the latest version of firefox and openoffice, and then install gEDA with minimum hassle. Also, I've been following some of the distros on distrowatch.com and I think many new distro updates will have the latest version of firefox and openoffice. I just wanted to get up and running with gEDA. - Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Some Linux distros to consider
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:15:23 -0700 (PDT) Jason Elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently installed linux on my machine for the sole purpose to install gEDA. I went through a couple of Linux installations before I got gEDA to work and I would like to share my feedback. (Short answer below...see conclusion) There were 3 criteria I wanted the distro to fulfill be fore I chose: 1) It had to have Firefox 2.0 or later, 2) It had to have the latest version of OpenOffice, 3) I wanted the source code as well as development packages to be installed with a full install of the distro. In these three regards, might I sugest Gentoo. That is the distro I use. The only thing that my be an issue is in your conclusion. [cut] My goal here was to find one that I can download, burn, install, have the latest version of firefox and openoffice, and then install gEDA with minimum hassle. Gentoo is great IMO for the top three criteria, however it does require some tinkering. The just works quotient is pretty low. For a home where tinkering is okay, it's great. *nix experience is most decidedly required -- not a newbie distro. my 2c. -Marc pgp6LPnQAt7h1.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Some Linux distros to consider
Marc Moreau wrote: On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:15:23 -0700 (PDT) Jason Elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently installed linux on my machine for the sole purpose to install gEDA. I went through a couple of Linux installations before I got gEDA to work and I would like to share my feedback. (Short answer below...see conclusion) There were 3 criteria I wanted the distro to fulfill be fore I chose: 1) It had to have Firefox 2.0 or later, 2) It had to have the latest version of OpenOffice, 3) I wanted the source code as well as development packages to be installed with a full install of the distro. In these three regards, might I sugest Gentoo. That is the distro I use. The only thing that my be an issue is in your conclusion. [cut] My goal here was to find one that I can download, burn, install, have the latest version of firefox and openoffice, and then install gEDA with minimum hassle. Gentoo is great IMO for the top three criteria, however it does require some tinkering. The just works quotient is pretty low. For a home where tinkering is okay, it's great. *nix experience is most decidedly required -- not a newbie distro. my 2c. -Marc CentOS has worked out fine for me. I actually chose it because I had to have a clone of Red Hat Enterprise Linux for another project. It just happened to work will with gEDA. Vaughn T. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Some Linux distros to consider
To:geda-user@seul.org First I tried Slackware 11.0. I've known about/used Slackware since about version 3.4. I really like the way Slackware has progressed and kept up with new packages. I would be using Slackware except that with 11.0, it comes with Firefox 1.5 and does not come with OpenOffice. Call me lazy, I just wanted everything ready to go right after the immediate installation. I didn't even install gEDA before I reformatted and tried again. [ST : I am using slackware 10.2 with Freerock Gnome. Works great ! grtz Simon ___ What kind of emailer are you? Find out today - get a free analysis of your email personality. Take the quiz at the Yahoo! Mail Championship. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
