Re: gEDA-user: Use of Alt+Mouse1
My newer keyboards all have those keys but I use Windows only for gaming ;-) timecop wrote: Number of keyboards shipped in a year with Windows keys vs no Windows keys are probably somewhat directly related to the market share of Windows-running machines vs Lunix-running toyboxes. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Use of Alt+Mouse1
timecop wrote: Number of keyboards shipped in a year with Windows keys vs no Windows keys are probably somewhat directly related to the market share of Windows-running machines vs Lunix-running toyboxes. If you think in terms like Lunix-toy, then you're following market share and will never lead anything new. We're creating little slivers of usability unhampered by mainstream monopolies. It's really the market monopolies that are more concerned with entertainment and toys. The movie Time Cop was a formulaic revenge vehicle for an actor. Funny choice of handle JG ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Use of Alt+Mouse1 (was: Next problem, PCB looses rats)
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 10:33:44PM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: Maybe it's time to travel into 2010. I don't run Windows. Why would I need Windows-specific keys? Because despite the logo, it is easy to remap it to Super (in fact, Ubuntu seems to do that that be defaut). I for one like having another modifier. A Sun Type 6 or 7 USB programmers keyboard should offer a proper command key without windows logo as well. I don't have one to check the keymap with though. This does once again remind me that I should go looking for one on ebay. I believe if you hook an Apple keyboard up to Linux, you find the Command (pretzel) key mapped as Super, if that is less offensive than the Windows logo. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Use of Alt+Mouse1 (was: Next problem, PCB looses rats)
On tis, 2010-06-15 at 01:33 +, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: On Tue, 08 Jun 2010 00:32:09 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: Do we use alt for anything else? Would alt-click interfere with window managers? Metacity / compiz have that as a short-cut for dragging windows around. With metacity this is configurable: MainMenu - System - Windows - MovementKey This setting can be either Alt, or Super (Windows logo) I don't know about compiz but expect it to be configurable , too. If the proposed modified drag is caught with some settings of some window managers then the affected users are in the same situation like now. Everybody else would gain a shortcut to a frequently needed action. All the window managers i have used have all used Alt+Mouse1 for dragging windows around by default, but most of them have the option of reconfiguring this. The ones i have used (and remember now) are: fluxbox, evilwm, ratpoison, metacity, compiz /Jonatan ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Use of Alt+Mouse1 (was: Next problem, PCB looses rats)
Jonatan Åkerlind wrote: All the window managers i have used have all used Alt+Mouse1 for dragging windows around by default, Ok, then. Let's take the key with the windows logo, or AltGr, or the key with the menu to the right of the right windows key. :-) ---)kaimartin(--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Öffentlicher PGP-Schlüssel: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x6C0B9F53 ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Use of Alt+Mouse1 (was: Next problem, PCB looses rats)
Ok, then. Let's take the key with the windows logo, or AltGr, or the key with the menu to the right of the right windows key. :-) My keyboard doesn't have any of those keys... ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Use of Alt+Mouse1 (was: Next problem, PCB looses rats)
Maybe it's time to travel into 2010. On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:51 AM, DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com wrote: Ok, then. Let's take the key with the windows logo, or AltGr, or the key with the menu to the right of the right windows key. :-) My keyboard doesn't have any of those keys... ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Use of Alt+Mouse1 (was: Next problem, PCB looses rats)
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Re: gEDA-user: Use of Alt+Mouse1 (was: Next problem, PCB looses rats)
Maybe it's time to travel into 2010. I don't run Windows. Why would I need Windows-specific keys? ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Use of Alt+Mouse1 (was: Next problem, PCB looses rats)
On Jun 15, 2010, at 7:22 PM, timecop wrote: Maybe it's time to travel into 2010. On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:51 AM, DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com wrote: Ok, then. Let's take the key with the windows logo, or AltGr, or the key with the menu to the right of the right windows key. :-) My keyboard doesn't have any of those keys... Mine doesn't have any either, and it was made this year. Your point? ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Use of Alt+Mouse1
Travel into 2010 with a Windows key? Are you for real? -Dave On 6/15/10 10:22 PM, timecop wrote: Maybe it's time to travel into 2010. On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:51 AM, DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com wrote: Ok, then. Let's take the key with the windows logo, or AltGr, or the key with the menu to the right of the right windows key. :-) My keyboard doesn't have any of those keys... ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user -- Dave McGuire Port Charlotte, FL ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Use of Alt+Mouse1
Number of keyboards shipped in a year with Windows keys vs no Windows keys are probably somewhat directly related to the market share of Windows-running machines vs Lunix-running toyboxes. On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Dave McGuire mcgu...@neurotica.com wrote: Travel into 2010 with a Windows key? Are you for real? -Dave On 6/15/10 10:22 PM, timecop wrote: Maybe it's time to travel into 2010. On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:51 AM, DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com wrote: Ok, then. Let's take the key with the windows logo, or AltGr, or the key with the menu to the right of the right windows key. :-) My keyboard doesn't have any of those keys... ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user -- Dave McGuire Port Charlotte, FL ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Use of Alt+Mouse1
Wow. You're really looking to start arguments… Sent via BlackBerry® from Vodafone -Original Message- From: timecop time...@gmail.com Sender: geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 12:10:52 To: gEDA user mailing listgeda-user@moria.seul.org Reply-To: gEDA user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Use of Alt+Mouse1 Number of keyboards shipped in a year with Windows keys vs no Windows keys are probably somewhat directly related to the market share of Windows-running machines vs Lunix-running toyboxes. On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Dave McGuire mcgu...@neurotica.com wrote: Travel into 2010 with a Windows key? Are you for real? -Dave On 6/15/10 10:22 PM, timecop wrote: Maybe it's time to travel into 2010. On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:51 AM, DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com wrote: Ok, then. Let's take the key with the windows logo, or AltGr, or the key with the menu to the right of the right windows key. :-) My keyboard doesn't have any of those keys... ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user -- Dave McGuire Port Charlotte, FL ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Use of Alt+Mouse1
On 6/15/10 11:10 PM, timecop wrote: Number of keyboards shipped in a year with Windows keys vs no Windows keys are probably somewhat directly related to the market share of Windows-running machines vs Lunix-running toyboxes. Honestly, Timecop, we already know you're an idiot. You don't have to keep proving it to us over and over. -Dave -- Dave McGuire Port Charlotte, FL ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Use of Alt+Mouse1
*I* am?? -Dave On 6/15/10 11:38 PM, shinobi.j...@gmail.com wrote: Wow. You're really looking to start arguments… Sent via BlackBerry® from Vodafone -Original Message- From: timecoptime...@gmail.com Sender: geda-user-boun...@moria.seul.org Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 12:10:52 To: gEDA user mailing listgeda-user@moria.seul.org Reply-To: gEDA user mailing listgeda-user@moria.seul.org Subject: Re: gEDA-user: Use of Alt+Mouse1 Number of keyboards shipped in a year with Windows keys vs no Windows keys are probably somewhat directly related to the market share of Windows-running machines vs Lunix-running toyboxes. On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Dave McGuiremcgu...@neurotica.com wrote: Travel into 2010 with a Windows key? Are you for real? -Dave On 6/15/10 10:22 PM, timecop wrote: Maybe it's time to travel into 2010. On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:51 AM, DJ Deloried...@delorie.com wrote: Ok, then. Let's take the key with the windows logo, or AltGr, or the key with the menu to the right of the right windows key. :-) My keyboard doesn't have any of those keys... ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user -- Dave McGuire Port Charlotte, FL ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user -- Dave McGuire Port Charlotte, FL ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Use of Alt+Mouse1
Bahahhahah! No. :P Not referring to you at all. My response was targeted at timecop. Apologies if it my aim was off... *I* am?? -Dave On 6/15/10 11:38 PM, [1]shinobi.j...@gmail.com wrote: Wow. You're really looking to start arguments Sent via BlackBerry® from Vodafone References 1. mailto:shinobi.j...@gmail.com ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: Use of Alt+Mouse1
No worries. That guy has a history of pushing peoples' buttons here. One day, someone's going to find out where he lives. (my money's on his mother's basement) -Dave On 6/16/10 12:54 AM, Geoff Swan wrote: Bahahhahah! No. :P Not referring to you at all. My response was targeted at timecop. Apologies if it my aim was off... *I* am?? -Dave On 6/15/10 11:38 PM, shinobi.j...@gmail.com mailto:shinobi.j...@gmail.com wrote: Wow. You're really looking to start arguments… Sent via BlackBerry® from Vodafone -- Dave McGuire Port Charlotte, FL ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
