Re: gEDA-user: free-open workarounds similar to SolidWorks

2008-09-07 Thread evan foss
On 9/6/08, John Griessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Rob Butts wrote:
   Hey John,
  
   I spoke to a local vocational high school's drafting department who 
 couldn't
   wait to get their hands on this project.  I gave them the measurements of 
 my
   backrest and they are running with this.  It gives their students a chance
   to work on a real project, to help the disabled and to use the more 
 advanced
   features of their software.  I couldn't beat the pice since it's free!


 Oh.  That's just free as in beer, not freedom.

I just have to wonder aloud what would happen if someone made a beer
that was actually open sourced. Stallman would have to make a new
saying to avoid confusion.


  It's sad you didn't try out ideas here before sending that expensive
  first job to the machining job shop.

  And besides us, there are plenty of artist machinists you could talk
  with about fabbing one off shapes, they're just on different lists
  related to emc2, small milling machines, etc.


  JG



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Re: gEDA-user: free-open workarounds similar to SolidWorks

2008-09-07 Thread Larry Doolittle
Evan -
On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 02:51:48AM -0400, evan foss wrote:
 I just have to wonder aloud what would happen if someone made a beer
 that was actually open sourced. Stallman would have to make a new
 saying to avoid confusion.

http://www.freebeer.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Source_Beer_Project

I haven't tried it myself.  :-(

  - Larry


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gEDA-user: free-open workarounds similar to SolidWorks

2008-09-06 Thread John Griessen
evan foss wrote:
 Open cascade is just free as in beer. The license is really not what
 you would think.

OK then.  I looked at the GCAM program site without installing it yet. 
Seems to have a 3D wireframe view of hand made macros done via GUI to 
create sets of RS-274 G codes.  The G code macros it will make are about 
cutting simple circle or rectangle shapes, then outputting a series of 
moves that will cut a global depth of cut setting and repeat while 
necessary.  I did not see anything generating spline curves yet.

I cannot find any import export function yet.

So far, Blender --python scripts to create G codes -- GCAM setup 
details added to G codes -- machining job shop  is the most reasonable 
flow I have found to make real parts with.  It might be possible to go 
from blender -- STL --??-- IGES, but I've not found how yet.

GCAM checked G codes are farther along than an IGES file, so your 
charges at the machine shop would be less with them.

Whether GCAM would show in 3D a set of G codes that follow a spline 
curved surface from Blender is an interesting question to answer...


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Re: gEDA-user: free-open workarounds similar to SolidWorks

2008-09-06 Thread Rob Butts
Hey John,

I spoke to a local vocational high school's drafting department who couldn't
wait to get their hands on this project.  I gave them the measurements of my
backrest and they are running with this.  It gives their students a chance
to work on a real project, to help the disabled and to use the more advanced
features of their software.  I couldn't beat the pice since it's free!  Plus
this frees me up to work on the code for my temp control chip.

Thanks for digging into this and if you continue to explore this I'd be
interested to know what you find out.

Rob

On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 3:24 PM, John Griessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 evan foss wrote:
  Open cascade is just free as in beer. The license is really not what
  you would think.

 OK then.  I looked at the GCAM program site without installing it yet.
 Seems to have a 3D wireframe view of hand made macros done via GUI to
 create sets of RS-274 G codes.  The G code macros it will make are about
 cutting simple circle or rectangle shapes, then outputting a series of
 moves that will cut a global depth of cut setting and repeat while
 necessary.  I did not see anything generating spline curves yet.

 I cannot find any import export function yet.

 So far, Blender --python scripts to create G codes -- GCAM setup
 details added to G codes -- machining job shop  is the most reasonable
 flow I have found to make real parts with.  It might be possible to go
 from blender -- STL --??-- IGES, but I've not found how yet.

 GCAM checked G codes are farther along than an IGES file, so your
 charges at the machine shop would be less with them.

 Whether GCAM would show in 3D a set of G codes that follow a spline
 curved surface from Blender is an interesting question to answer...


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