Re: gEDA-user: git HEAD PCB now supports user-defined holes in polygons
On Wed, 2010-06-09 at 12:27 +0200, Levente Kovacs wrote: > On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 00:38:16 +0100 > Peter Clifton wrote: > > > git HEAD PCB now supports user-defined holes in polygons > > Hi Peter, > > > This feature is cool. Thank you for implementing it. > > I found that it makes a funny thing when you move a cutout corner outside the > polygon. Yes, the legality checking of such polygons isn't very good. This stems from the fact PCB's existing legality checking for user-defined polygons is really quite poor. (It lets you draw / drag to make polygons it will then assert() or crash on if built with full debugging). > I wish we could define pads as polygons, so with this feature any kind of > pads could be implemented. Solder-mask cut outs would be nice too. That would be quite neat - it probably requires some file format additions. For now, I believe (aside from in my "pours" branches where the feature is disabled), you can draw rectangular pads with the rect polygon tool. Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask for me) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: git HEAD PCB now supports user-defined holes in polygons
Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: The use of the right mouse button to get back one level in handler hierarchy is very convenient for me. It's a feature I learned to love with QCad The concept of a hierarchy of tools is one of the aspects I explicitly dislike with qcad. It is a pain to constantly move up and down this hierarchy and keep the current position in the hierarchy in mind. The most important tools should be readily available, no matter what. I see your point about e.g. creating lines and trimming are very common operations (in mechanical CAD) that are very likely to appear in rapid succession. Despite the fact I like the hierarchical tool model, I earlier considered a dynamic toolbox (e.g. popping up centered under your cursor on right click ;-) that gets filled by the user via dragging certain operations into it in a special mode. (the dynamic toolbox holds just links, so the original menu/static toolboxes are unmodified) One such toolbox to my taste can contain 9 tools (quadratic icons), but there would be no problem to provide a "shelf" of such toolboxes, so a user can assemble them for different phases. Would this appeal to you in future versions of Varkon (and gEDA)? Btw, I see no reason, why the cursor is positioned on top of the list on right-click menues. Centering reduces the require average mouse motion by 1/2 and makes it less likely, that the menu has to be displayed atop the cursor. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: git HEAD PCB now supports user-defined holes in polygons
On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 20:20:47 -0400, Jim wrote: > Thanks, that'll help a lot if they do change default behavior. I added this and some notes on shortcut customisation to the wiki. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover http://www.iqo.uni-hannover.de GPG key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=Knaak+kmk&op=get ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: git HEAD PCB now supports user-defined holes in polygons
Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: On Tue, 08 Jun 2010 10:51:10 -0400, Jim wrote: Oh, please make that change configurable without recompiling! It is already configurable without recompiling. This is how: 1) locate the file gpcb-menu.res on your box. 2) copy the file to $HOME/.pcb 3) edit to your needs, save 4) on start-up, pcb will read this localised copy. This will overwrite whatever settings were made by the system gpcb-menu.res ---<)kaimartin(>--- Thanks, that'll help a lot if they do change default behavior. Jim. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: git HEAD PCB now supports user-defined holes in polygons
On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 13:56:42 +0200, Armin Faltl wrote: > No popup please ack. A horizontal menu would be better -- No need to move the mouse to some place in the middle of the screen. > - have the sub-tools replace the coarser tool box and change back No wholesale replacement of tools on the UI, please. > with a click on the "BACK" button or right-click somewhere in the app. Someone just warned against burning right-click for not so important purposes. ;-) > (for laying traces or lines the first right-click breaks the (poly-)line > and so 2 right-clicks > are needed to change from "poly-line"-mode to "line-start"- to > "tool-select"-mode) pcb already supports this with the [esc] key. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover http://www.iqo.uni-hannover.de GPG key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=Knaak+kmk&op=get ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: git HEAD PCB now supports user-defined holes in polygons
On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 13:35:55 +0200, Armin Faltl wrote: > kai-martin knaak wrote: >> Back in 1999 Microstation by Bentley did it this way: >> >> left click = do the default action >> >> right-click-drag = a horizontal menu with several icons representing >> different modes of the tool appears. The icon that is highlicghted on >> mouse button release is executed. >> >> right-click = the horizontal appears. Left-click on an icon makes this >> mode the default of the tool. >> > Right click is a very ergonomic action so I'd like to reserve it for > something IMO more important The right mouse button functionality I described, is exclusive to the mode buttons. It does not interfere in any way with right-mouse functions during routing, or on objects. > The use of the right mouse button to get back one level in handler > hierarchy is very convenient for me. It's a feature I learned to > love with QCad The concept of a hierarchy of tools is one of the aspects I explicitly dislike with qcad. It is a pain to constantly move up and down this hierarchy and keep the current position in the hierarchy in mind. The most important tools should be readily available, no matter what. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover http://www.iqo.uni-hannover.de GPG key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=Knaak+kmk&op=get ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: git HEAD PCB now supports user-defined holes in polygons
On Tue, 08 Jun 2010 10:51:10 -0400, Jim wrote: > Oh, please make that change configurable without recompiling! It is already configurable without recompiling. This is how: 1) locate the file gpcb-menu.res on your box. 2) copy the file to $HOME/.pcb 3) edit to your needs, save 4) on start-up, pcb will read this localised copy. This will overwrite whatever settings were made by the system gpcb-menu.res ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover http://www.iqo.uni-hannover.de GPG key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=Knaak+kmk&op=get ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: git HEAD PCB now supports user-defined holes in polygons
Peter Clifton wrote: Perhaps a click on the polygon tool ought to expand with a pop-up with sub-variants of the tool to choose from? No popup please - have the sub-tools replace the coarser tool box and change back with a click on the "BACK" button or right-click somewhere in the app. (for laying traces or lines the first right-click breaks the (poly-)line and so 2 right-clicks are needed to change from "poly-line"-mode to "line-start"- to "tool-select"-mode) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: git HEAD PCB now supports user-defined holes in polygons
kai-martin knaak wrote: Back in 1999 Microstation by Bentley did it this way: left click = do the default action right-click-drag = a horizontal menu with several icons representing different modes of the tool appears. The icon that is highlicghted on mouse button release is executed. right-click = the horizontal appears. Left-click on an icon makes this mode the default of the tool. That way you can deal with a multitude of modes and get an intuitive way to configure the default to your own, special needs. OK, this is certainly too much for pcb in its current state. But it shows, what a powerful GUI can do. Right click is a very ergonomic action so I'd like to reserve it for something IMO more important: the ESC functionality in routing, i.e. break a trace and restart a new one. So for a tool-box popup I'd prefer shift-left-click or maybe shift-right click or one of the zilion of other mous buttons I have ;-) The use of the right mouse button to get back one level in handler hierarchy is very convenient for me. It's a feature I learned to love with QCad and implemented in my GUI-demo (with some known glitches) visible at www.varkon.org. I also prefer assignment of view operations to the middle mouse button/wheel as a clear concept: scroll = zoom, drag = pan. (in space it's a bit more complicated: scroll is move along camera axis, drag = move traverse, Ctrl-drag = rotate in space, alt-scroll = change perspective angle,...) Regards, Armin ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: git HEAD PCB now supports user-defined holes in polygons
On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 00:38:16 +0100 Peter Clifton wrote: > git HEAD PCB now supports user-defined holes in polygons Hi Peter, This feature is cool. Thank you for implementing it. I found that it makes a funny thing when you move a cutout corner outside the polygon. I wish we could define pads as polygons, so with this feature any kind of pads could be implemented. Solder-mask cut outs would be nice too. Thanks again, Levente -- Levente Kovacs http://levente.logonex.eu ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: git HEAD PCB now supports user-defined holes in polygons
Peter Clifton wrote: > I think you might be on my "local_customisation_before_pours" branch, > rather than my "before_pours" branch. I thought I did "git reset --hard origin/before_pours". But may be not. I just fetched, did a reset and compiled at home and did not get the changed zoom behavior. >> Other CAD applications have >> elaborate ways to choose between literally hundreds of tools. A simple >> means would be to allow for modifier-click on the button. > > You idea sounds good - but I'll have to ask you to send the patch ;) Maybe a project for my personal little summer of code. Just don't hold your breath. > Perhaps a click on the polygon tool ought to expand with a pop-up with > sub-variants of the tool to choose from? Back in 1999 Microstation by Bentley did it this way: left click = do the default action right-click-drag = a horizontal menu with several icons representing different modes of the tool appears. The icon that is highlicghted on mouse button release is executed. right-click = the horizontal appears. Left-click on an icon makes this mode the default of the tool. That way you can deal with a multitude of modes and get an intuitive way to configure the default to your own, special needs. OK, this is certainly too much for pcb in its current state. But it shows, what a powerful GUI can do. ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Öffentlicher PGP-Schlüssel: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x6C0B9F53 ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: git HEAD PCB now supports user-defined holes in polygons
Peter Clifton wrote: > On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 15:34 +0100, Peter TB Brett wrote: > > Scroll as scroll makes sense to me. IMHO, the simplest shortcuts should be mapped to the most frequently used actions. In an editor, or on a web page I hardly zoom. So it makes sense to map it to some modifier-shortcut. By contrast, with pcb, gschem, or gerbv I zoom in and out all the time. The less effort this requires, the better. [ctrl-scroll] would have my left little finger glued to the ctrl-key. ;-) > Actually, my touch pad only has a vertical scrolling edge, but I can't > use gEDA / PCB effectively after having used any other apps in GNOME. Fair enough. I feel the same when I switch from varicad with yet a different mapping of zoom ([ctrl-shift-drag]). ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Öffentlicher PGP-Schlüssel: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x6C0B9F53 ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: git HEAD PCB now supports user-defined holes in polygons
On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 13:49 -0700, Ben Jackson wrote: > On Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 09:25:44PM +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: > > > > I think you might be on my "local_customisation_before_pours" branch, > > rather than my "before_pours" branch. > > If your public repository is also your working copy, users who clone it > will start on whatever branch you are in when they happen to clone. > If the public repo is separate (typically bare) and you push to it, users > will not have this issue. It is the latter.. I push my branches to git://repo.or.cz/geda-pcb/pcjc2.git -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask for me) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: git HEAD PCB now supports user-defined holes in polygons
On Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 09:25:44PM +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: > > I think you might be on my "local_customisation_before_pours" branch, > rather than my "before_pours" branch. If your public repository is also your working copy, users who clone it will start on whatever branch you are in when they happen to clone. If the public repo is separate (typically bare) and you push to it, users will not have this issue. -- Ben Jackson AD7GD http://www.ben.com/ ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: git HEAD PCB now supports user-defined holes in polygons
On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 15:34 +0100, Peter TB Brett wrote: > On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 12:46:12 + (UTC), Kai-Martin Knaak > wrote: > > > * You moved zoom to [ctrl-wheel]. I know, that this is in line with the > > way other major gnome applications like inkscape handle zoom. However, > > gschem and gerbv zoom with no modifier by default. I'd strongly vote for > > a consistent behaviour across geda applications. > > I would like to see Ctrl+Wheel for zoom across gEDA applications. Several > people, myself and Peter C. included, have laptops where the touchpad has > two-axis scrolling along the bottom and right-hand edges. Having different > behaviours depending on which edge you hit is confusing. Scroll as scroll > makes sense to me. Actually, my touch pad only has a vertical scrolling edge, but I can't use gEDA / PCB effectively after having used _any_ other apps in GNOME. My workaround has been to patch my local defaults to be the GNOME'y default of Ctrl+Scroll == ZOOM. In the cases of gschem and PCB, this is just a matter of editing a config file. If I handed either app to a brand-new user, I'd feel more comfortable giving them the defaults I use - but wouldn't want to inflict the change on existing users. -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask for me) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: git HEAD PCB now supports user-defined holes in polygons
On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 12:46 +, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > * You moved zoom to [ctrl-wheel]. I know, that this is in line with the > way other major gnome applications like inkscape handle zoom. However, > gschem and gerbv zoom with no modifier by default. I'd strongly vote for > a consistent behaviour across geda applications. I think you might be on my "local_customisation_before_pours" branch, rather than my "before_pours" branch. The scroll-wheel behaviour change is something I patched for my own local consumption. (Or perhaps I screwed up my repository rebasing!) > * The addition of the new hole tool moves the other icons downstream to > unfamiliar positions. It takes time to get used to this change. From a > user perspective, the hole tool is more like a seldom used special mode > of the polygon tool. A permanent button adds to the visual clutter. As > more tools emerge, this will get worse. Other CAD applications have > elaborate ways to choose between literally hundreds of tools. A simple > means would be to allow for modifier-click on the button. You idea sounds good - but I'll have to ask you to send the patch ;) I don't have time to dive into the GUI code for rending those buttons, adding one was very easy. If you like, I could move the button to the end of the list, but it felt at home next to the polygon tool. Perhaps a click on the polygon tool ought to expand with a pop-up with sub-variants of the tool to choose from? (E.g. some menus in XMMS / Audacious, and various drawing tools in OpenOffice). Perhaps a modifier key could be used to make the polygon tool work like the hole tool... We'd have to figure out a way around requiring the first click to select the polygon - perhaps in the 99.9% common cases, that can just be the polygon found when hitting the first point of the hole contour. I added the first click requirement, as I often have boards which have multiple polygons in them. Thinking about it now, it is probably better to skip the requirement of the first click to identify the polygon. > * The side pane wastes precious screen space on my box. About 8mm of > horizontal space are just filled with grey background. See the screenshot > http://bibo.iqo.uni-hannover.de/tmp/Screenshot-PCB-before_pours.png > This is not special with your branch. I get the same with pcb-head. Lesstif doesn't have a tool pallete at all -> no wasted space ;) A while back, both I - and some other developer (sorry, I forget whom) were looking at using the "GDL" library to make these tool-palettes dockable / tear-off-able, so they could be re-arranged / removed to save space. I've not had a lot of time to pursue the idea though. > Thanks for your efforts to make geda a better tool set! Thanks for the testing! It is always nice to know people are using the code and appreciating it.. it helpe motivate me to spend more of my (little) free time working on it. Best wishes, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask for me) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: git HEAD PCB now supports user-defined holes in polygons
Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 02:10:57 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: This is a file format bump, but remains backward compatible with old layouts. I get multiple warnings "unknown flag `polygonholemode'" if I open a new file with the old pcb. I assume, these are benign. I've now rebased my usual branches on top of this (mainly required work for the "pour" object branches), I just refetched the before_pours branch. It compiled and installed just fine. First notes: * You moved zoom to [ctrl-wheel]. I know, that this is in line with the way other major gnome applications like inkscape handle zoom. However, gschem and gerbv zoom with no modifier by default. I'd strongly vote for a consistent behaviour across geda applications. Oh, please make that change configurable without recompiling! It's really irritating (to me) to have to use two hands to do things if it's not absolutely necessary. I'll live without some other feature just to have wheel zoom without a modifier. Thanks for your efforts to make geda a better tool set! I second that! ---<)kaimartin(>--- Jim ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: git HEAD PCB now supports user-defined holes in polygons
On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 12:46:12 + (UTC), Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > * You moved zoom to [ctrl-wheel]. I know, that this is in line with the > way other major gnome applications like inkscape handle zoom. However, > gschem and gerbv zoom with no modifier by default. I'd strongly vote for > a consistent behaviour across geda applications. I would like to see Ctrl+Wheel for zoom across gEDA applications. Several people, myself and Peter C. included, have laptops where the touchpad has two-axis scrolling along the bottom and right-hand edges. Having different behaviours depending on which edge you hit is confusing. Scroll as scroll makes sense to me. Peter -- Peter Brett Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: git HEAD PCB now supports user-defined holes in polygons
On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 02:10:57 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: >> This is a file format bump, but remains backward compatible with old >> layouts. I get multiple warnings "unknown flag `polygonholemode'" if I open a new file with the old pcb. I assume, these are benign. > I've now rebased my usual branches on top of this (mainly required work > for the "pour" object branches), I just refetched the before_pours branch. It compiled and installed just fine. First notes: * You moved zoom to [ctrl-wheel]. I know, that this is in line with the way other major gnome applications like inkscape handle zoom. However, gschem and gerbv zoom with no modifier by default. I'd strongly vote for a consistent behaviour across geda applications. * The addition of the new hole tool moves the other icons downstream to unfamiliar positions. It takes time to get used to this change. From a user perspective, the hole tool is more like a seldom used special mode of the polygon tool. A permanent button adds to the visual clutter. As more tools emerge, this will get worse. Other CAD applications have elaborate ways to choose between literally hundreds of tools. A simple means would be to allow for modifier-click on the button. * The side pane wastes precious screen space on my box. About 8mm of horizontal space are just filled with grey background. See the screenshot http://bibo.iqo.uni-hannover.de/tmp/Screenshot-PCB-before_pours.png This is not special with your branch. I get the same with pcb-head. Thanks for your efforts to make geda a better tool set! ---<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover http://www.iqo.uni-hannover.de GPG key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=Knaak+kmk&op=get ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: git HEAD PCB now supports user-defined holes in polygons
On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 00:57 +0200, kai-martin knaak wrote: > Peter Clifton wrote: > > > A subsequent commit also introduced a GUI tool for creating holes in > > polygons. Standard editing tools such as insert / move / remove point > > work on the holes too. > > Great! > Does this apply to solder stop, too? No, solder mask is always derived from pads - the holes thing was just about extending our support for polygon shapes to include user drawn holes. I appreciate it would be nice in the future to have the ability to override solder mask shapes and define things like text in the masks. (I've seen this used to good effect on boards with no silk-screen). Best wishes, Peter -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask for me) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: git HEAD PCB now supports user-defined holes in polygons
Peter Clifton wrote: > A subsequent commit also introduced a GUI tool for creating holes in > polygons. Standard editing tools such as insert / move / remove point > work on the holes too. Great! Does this apply to solder stop, too? --<)kaimartin(>--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak Öffentlicher PGP-Schlüssel: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x6C0B9F53 ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: git HEAD PCB now supports user-defined holes in polygons
On Mon, 2010-06-07 at 00:38 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: > As subject.. > > This is a file format bump, but remains backward compatible with old > layouts. I've now rebased my usual branches on top of this (mainly required work for the "pour" object branches), however repo.or.cz seems to be down at the moment. If I repo.or.cz doesn't re-appear tomorrow, I'll see if Ales can set me up a repository on gpleda.org to stash this stuff. Best regards, -- Peter Clifton Electrical Engineering Division, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, 9, JJ Thomson Avenue, Cambridge CB3 0FA Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!) Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask for me) ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: git HEAD PCB now supports user-defined holes in polygons
As subject..
This is a file format bump, but remains backward compatible with old
layouts.
>From the commit message:
The file-format addition is as follows. Previously, a polygon would
be specified as a series of coordinates, such as:
Layer(1 "component")
(
Polygon("clearpoly")
(
[6000 6000] [81000 6000] [81000 59000] [6000 59000]
)
)
This commit introduces the ability to specify negative contours
which form holes in the polygon shape, e.g.:
Layer(1 "component")
(
Polygon("")
(
[6000 6000] [81000 6000] [81000 59000] [6000 59000]
Hole (
[76000 55000] [76000 38000] [58000 38000] [58000 55000]
)
Hole (
[1 1] [1 28000] [27000 28000] [27000 1]
)
)
)
A subsequent commit also introduced a GUI tool for creating holes in
polygons. Standard editing tools such as insert / move / remove point
work on the holes too.
(If you don't use the new feature, you can re-edit the file header's
date to "fix" the layout file for reading with older versions of PCB).
--
Peter Clifton
Electrical Engineering Division,
Engineering Department,
University of Cambridge,
9, JJ Thomson Avenue,
Cambridge
CB3 0FA
Tel: +44 (0)7729 980173 - (No signal in the lab!)
Tel: +44 (0)1223 748328 - (Shared lab phone, ask for me)
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