Re: gEDA-user: gschem: How to overwrite invisible attributes?

2008-03-31 Thread John Griessen
Stefan Salewski wrote:

 But there are some existing gschem-symbols with these net-attributes...
 
 OK, maybe I should make a local copy and remove the hidden nets.


Yes.  Make that change to match your style and do it consistently
to avoid debugging.

John Griessen

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Re: gEDA-user: gschem: How to overwrite invisible attributes?

2008-03-31 Thread Dave N6NZ


John Griessen wrote:
 Stefan Salewski wrote:
 
 But there are some existing gschem-symbols with these net-attributes...

 OK, maybe I should make a local copy and remove the hidden nets.
 
 
 Yes.  Make that change to match your style and do it consistently
 to avoid debugging.

Since I dislike having house keeping i/o cluttering up the symbol, 
what I've (mostly) converted to is breaking symbols into at least two 
pieces, one for power supply, and one (or more) for function.

So if you copy a symbol with hidden nets, simply remove the nets.  Then 
the new symbol will drop into place where ever the original was.  Make 
another symbol for power supply, and assign it the same refdes when you 
place it.

-dave


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Re: gEDA-user: gschem: How to overwrite invisible attributes?

2008-03-31 Thread Wojciech Kazubski
Sunday 30 of March 2008 21:46:56 John Luciani napisaƂ(a):
 On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Stefan Salewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello,
 
   there exists symbols with net attributes which are not
   visible/accessible when symbol is inserted in a schematic, for example
 
   net=Vcc:14
 
   Problem: I am using many different positive supply voltages, i.e. 5V and
   3.3V. I want that this symbol has 3.3V supply, but I have no Vcc defined
   (or maybe Vcc is defined to be +5V).
 
   Can I simple add a new attribute to the symbol to overwrite the
   invisible/hidden net=Vcc:14 for pin 14 with something like net=
   +3.3V:14 ?
 
   I think that I have read that this overwriting of attributes shall work
   -- but I can't find it again.

 Why not just remove the hidden nets from the symbols? With mulitple
 values of Vcc (or GND) the hidden nets create a lot of hidden problems.

 (* jcl *)

 P.S. I have a script that removes the hidden nets and generates
 appropriate power symbols.

Replace net= attributes with something else, for example power= attributes in 
each sybol with hidden power pins (keeping the same syntax for simplicity). 
Then a special tool can be created to add an external net= attribute or 
add/create the suitable power symbol.

Wojciech Kazubski


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gEDA-user: gschem: How to overwrite invisible attributes?

2008-03-30 Thread Stefan Salewski
Hello,

there exists symbols with net attributes which are not
visible/accessible when symbol is inserted in a schematic, for example

net=Vcc:14

Problem: I am using many different positive supply voltages, i.e. 5V and
3.3V. I want that this symbol has 3.3V supply, but I have no Vcc defined
(or maybe Vcc is defined to be +5V). 

Can I simple add a new attribute to the symbol to overwrite the
invisible/hidden net=Vcc:14 for pin 14 with something like net=
+3.3V:14 ?

I think that I have read that this overwriting of attributes shall work
-- but I can't find it again.

Best regards

Stefan Salewski




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Re: gEDA-user: gschem: How to overwrite invisible attributes?

2008-03-30 Thread John Luciani
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Stefan Salewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

  there exists symbols with net attributes which are not
  visible/accessible when symbol is inserted in a schematic, for example

  net=Vcc:14

  Problem: I am using many different positive supply voltages, i.e. 5V and
  3.3V. I want that this symbol has 3.3V supply, but I have no Vcc defined
  (or maybe Vcc is defined to be +5V).

  Can I simple add a new attribute to the symbol to overwrite the
  invisible/hidden net=Vcc:14 for pin 14 with something like net=
  +3.3V:14 ?

  I think that I have read that this overwriting of attributes shall work
  -- but I can't find it again.

Why not just remove the hidden nets from the symbols? With mulitple
values of Vcc (or GND) the hidden nets create a lot of hidden problems.

(* jcl *)

P.S. I have a script that removes the hidden nets and generates
appropriate power symbols.

-- 
http://www.luciani.org


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Re: gEDA-user: gschem: How to overwrite invisible attributes?

2008-03-30 Thread Stefan Salewski
Why not just remove the hidden nets from the symbols? With mulitple
values of Vcc (or GND) the hidden nets create a lot of hidden problems.

Indeed, for symbols created by myself I do not use net attributes for
power supply. I prefer to use visible power pins or to divide larger
symbols into one separate power symbol.

But there are some existing gschem-symbols with these net-attributes...

OK, maybe I should make a local copy and remove the hidden nets.

Best regards

Stefan Salewski




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