Re: gEDA-user: gschem add net problem

2011-06-25 Thread Josh Jordan
This sounds familiar to me.  I think I've seen this before and had to
add 1-unit segments going down to connect all the parts to the
horizontal net line.
--- On Fri, 6/24/11, Phil Taylor p...@plastitar.com wrote:

  From: Phil Taylor p...@plastitar.com
  Subject: Re: gEDA-user: gschem add net problem
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  Date: Friday, June 24, 2011, 10:50 PM

I usually draw net stubs coming off any long net for the visual safety
of seeing each one fully drawn.  The risks of not doing it this way
seem to great.  It also makes different sized symbols fit in parallel
without issue.
So for three parallel symbols sharing one net there would be at least
four net line segments graphically.  (one stem and three stubs).
Compared to the effort one takes to create a full schematic, this small
extra bit of drawing matters little.
Regards, Phil
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On Jun 24, 2011, at 7:25 PM, Tim Holmes [1]holmes...@gmail.com wrote:
 OK, I think I finally see it.  In the example below, I would need to
place a net from the pin of the middle resistor to the net connecting
the outer two resistors.  I can't just drop the pin of a part on an
existing net.

 Tim


 On 06/24/2011 06:48 PM, Phil Taylor wrote:
 On 6/24/2011 4:06 PM, Tim Holmes wrote:
 But if I try moving the middle resistor, it does not rubberband
like the two
 outside ones.  This happens  whenever I try to install a symbol on
a net.

 I can get it to work by moving the part off the line and connecting
another net
 to it manually.  But as soon as I try to move it back into
position, the
 connection goes away, and it will not rubberband.

 Gschem will convert net segments into a single line segment if they
are drawn, or moved to, a straight line.

 If you only drew one line segment to start with, it will be only
editable by the handles on its endpoints (it is a line segment).

 Hope it helps, Phil


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gEDA-user: gschem add net problem

2011-06-24 Thread Tim Holmes
When I create a schematic, if I try to put more than one symbol on a net, it 
does
not take.  For example, if I were to put three resistors vertically, right next 
 
to each other, then add a net across all three on top, and another across all 
three on bottom, gschem indicates by adding a dot, that the middle resistor has 
 
been connected to the net.

But if I try moving the middle resistor, it does not rubberband like the two 
outside ones.  This happens  whenever I try to install a symbol on a net.

I can get it to work by moving the part off the line and connecting another net 
to it manually.  But as soon as I try to move it back into position, the 
connection goes away, and it will not rubberband.  

Right now I have it  working by having components that are supposed to be in a 
straight line (for appearance purposes) set up or down a bit.  It works, but 
looks  really bad.

I must be missing something simple.  Can anyone tell me what it is?

Thanks,

Tim
 



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Re: gEDA-user: gschem add net problem

2011-06-24 Thread Phil Taylor

On 6/24/2011 4:06 PM, Tim Holmes wrote:

But if I try moving the middle resistor, it does not rubberband like the two
outside ones.  This happens  whenever I try to install a symbol on a net.

I can get it to work by moving the part off the line and connecting another net
to it manually.  But as soon as I try to move it back into position, the
connection goes away, and it will not rubberband.


Gschem will convert net segments into a single line segment if they are 
drawn, or moved to, a straight line.


If you only drew one line segment to start with, it will be only 
editable by the handles on its endpoints (it is a line segment).


Hope it helps, Phil


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Re: gEDA-user: gschem add net problem

2011-06-24 Thread Tim Holmes

 Thank you for your response.

So how would I include the center resistor in the net as described in 
the example below, other than moving the resistors around in a irregular 
pattern and creating separate nets?


I've tried creating separate net segments, but as soon as I add the next 
segment, the middle part drops out of the net.  Somehow I'm missing the 
trick on how to do this, or missing something very basic.


Thanks again,

Tim

On 06/24/2011 06:48 PM, Phil Taylor wrote:

On 6/24/2011 4:06 PM, Tim Holmes wrote:
But if I try moving the middle resistor, it does not rubberband like 
the two
outside ones.  This happens  whenever I try to install a symbol on a 
net.


I can get it to work by moving the part off the line and connecting 
another net

to it manually.  But as soon as I try to move it back into position, the
connection goes away, and it will not rubberband.


Gschem will convert net segments into a single line segment if they 
are drawn, or moved to, a straight line.


If you only drew one line segment to start with, it will be only 
editable by the handles on its endpoints (it is a line segment).


Hope it helps, Phil


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Re: gEDA-user: gschem add net problem

2011-06-24 Thread Tim Holmes
 OK, I think I finally see it.  In the example below, I would need to 
place a net from the pin of the middle resistor to the net connecting 
the outer two resistors.  I can't just drop the pin of a part on an 
existing net.


Tim


On 06/24/2011 06:48 PM, Phil Taylor wrote:

On 6/24/2011 4:06 PM, Tim Holmes wrote:
But if I try moving the middle resistor, it does not rubberband like 
the two
outside ones.  This happens  whenever I try to install a symbol on a 
net.


I can get it to work by moving the part off the line and connecting 
another net

to it manually.  But as soon as I try to move it back into position, the
connection goes away, and it will not rubberband.


Gschem will convert net segments into a single line segment if they 
are drawn, or moved to, a straight line.


If you only drew one line segment to start with, it will be only 
editable by the handles on its endpoints (it is a line segment).


Hope it helps, Phil


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Re: gEDA-user: gschem add net problem

2011-06-24 Thread Phil Taylor
I usually draw net stubs coming off any long net for the visual safety of 
seeing each one fully drawn.  The risks of not doing it this way seem to great. 
 It also makes different sized symbols fit in parallel without issue.

So for three parallel symbols sharing one net there would be at least four net 
line segments graphically.  (one stem and three stubs).  Compared to the effort 
one takes to create a full schematic, this small extra bit of drawing matters 
little.

Regards, Phil

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On Jun 24, 2011, at 7:25 PM, Tim Holmes holmes...@gmail.com wrote:

 OK, I think I finally see it.  In the example below, I would need to place a 
 net from the pin of the middle resistor to the net connecting the outer two 
 resistors.  I can't just drop the pin of a part on an existing net.
 
 Tim
 
 
 On 06/24/2011 06:48 PM, Phil Taylor wrote:
 On 6/24/2011 4:06 PM, Tim Holmes wrote:
 But if I try moving the middle resistor, it does not rubberband like the two
 outside ones.  This happens  whenever I try to install a symbol on a net.
 
 I can get it to work by moving the part off the line and connecting another 
 net
 to it manually.  But as soon as I try to move it back into position, the
 connection goes away, and it will not rubberband.
 
 Gschem will convert net segments into a single line segment if they are 
 drawn, or moved to, a straight line.
 
 If you only drew one line segment to start with, it will be only editable by 
 the handles on its endpoints (it is a line segment).
 
 Hope it helps, Phil
 
 
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