Re: gEDA-user: if you people want to do it then put up the *cash*

2010-03-17 Thread Stephen Ecob
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 6:34 AM, gene glick carzr...@optonline.net wrote:
 So now the question is Who else will pledge money?.

Sure, happy to contribute.

Stephen


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Re: gEDA-user: if you people want to do it then put up the *cash*

2010-03-16 Thread gene glick

So now the question is Who else will pledge money?.

John



You can count me in too.


gene



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Re: gEDA-user: if you people want to do it then put up the *cash*

2010-03-15 Thread John Griessen

Ales Hvezda wrote:


problem with for-pay servers is users are motivated, they help
  pay for a few months, then no more
so any decisions that affect $$ need to account for probably
  Ales paying for it out of pocket

I have absolutely no issues with removing me as a single point of 
failure, however, if you people want to do it then put up the *cash*,

time, and get some buy-in from all people doing the development work.


When my friends on the metalartists.org list lost the previous server
and I started a mailman server for them they donated money via paypal
to get to paid up for a year and a half after just a week.  It might
not be hard, even with this bunch to get virtual server money.
For OpenVZ on Quantact.com servers you'd need to budget $30/month
for the level of RAM needed to run mailman.  These prices might even
drop some as things progress, since some web hosters, (Network Solns),
with canned web-app packages (not root accounts), now run at $11/month.

I'm good for $20 for server support -- I expect that to go for
a years worth after asking the rest of the people that care to contribute.

So now the question is Who else will pledge money?.

John
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Re: gEDA-user: if you people want to do it then put up the *cash*

2010-03-15 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 15 March 2010, John Griessen wrote:
Ales Hvezda wrote:
  problem with for-pay servers is users are motivated, they help
pay for a few months, then no more
  so any decisions that affect $$ need to account for probably
Ales paying for it out of pocket

 I have absolutely no issues with removing me as a single point of
 failure, however, if you people want to do it then put up the *cash*,
 time, and get some buy-in from all people doing the development work.

When my friends on the metalartists.org list lost the previous server
and I started a mailman server for them they donated money via paypal
to get to paid up for a year and a half after just a week.  It might
not be hard, even with this bunch to get virtual server money.
For OpenVZ on Quantact.com servers you'd need to budget $30/month
for the level of RAM needed to run mailman.  These prices might even
drop some as things progress, since some web hosters, (Network Solns),
with canned web-app packages (not root accounts), now run at $11/month.

I'm good for $20 for server support -- I expect that to go for
a years worth after asking the rest of the people that care to contribute.

So now the question is Who else will pledge money?.

John

I am just a lurker generally, but I think Ales has done a good job those 
times when I grabbed the next 'generation' of this stuff, it seems to have a 
minimum of the PIMA content most such projects seem to have an abundance of, 
with SF being the most prominent in my limited experience as I have repo 
write access there on one of the legacy computer OS projects  it loves to 
forget my pw on a random basis.

If Ales  all vote to setup the NP thing, even if it still runs on Ales's 
servers and a few bucks a month is needed to compensate Ales (or whoever 
might succeed should something happen, then I am sure my card could get 
$20/year lighter for as long as I'm around.  Just set it up and post the 
donate site URL here.  However, since I'm both 75 and diabetic, I have no 
warranty of being here tomorrow, but today I'm good.  Basically, somebody 
needs to pay the energy bill in any event.

-- 
Cheers, Gene
There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order.
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I hate mankind, for I think myself one of the best of them, and I know
how bad I am.
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Re: gEDA-user: if you people want to do it then put up the *cash*

2010-03-15 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:50:18 -0500, John Griessen wrote:

 For OpenVZ on Quantact.com servers you'd need to budget $30/month for
 the level of RAM needed to run mailman.  These prices might even drop
 some as things progress, since some web hosters, (Network Solns), with
 canned web-app packages (not root accounts), now run at $11/month.

As I posted before, competitive pricing for no-root packages dropped 
significantly in recent years. My domains with scripting, 10 GB traffic/
month, 2 GB Webspace, mailman preinstalled cost me 1.49 EUR/month. That 
is about 2.00 USD/month at current exchange rate. Uptime is 99.5%, 
connectivity is better than my DSL connection at home can handle.

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Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik  fax: +49-511-762-2211 
Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover   http://www.iqo.uni-hannover.de
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Re: gEDA-user: if you people want to do it then put up the *cash*

2010-03-15 Thread Jim

John Griessen wrote:

Ales Hvezda wrote:


problem with for-pay servers is users are motivated, they help
  pay for a few months, then no more
so any decisions that affect $$ need to account for probably
  Ales paying for it out of pocket

I have absolutely no issues with removing me as a single point of 
failure, however, if you people want to do it then put up the *cash*,

time, and get some buy-in from all people doing the development work.


When my friends on the metalartists.org list lost the previous server
and I started a mailman server for them they donated money via paypal
to get to paid up for a year and a half after just a week.  It might
not be hard, even with this bunch to get virtual server money.
For OpenVZ on Quantact.com servers you'd need to budget $30/month
for the level of RAM needed to run mailman.  These prices might even
drop some as things progress, since some web hosters, (Network Solns),
with canned web-app packages (not root accounts), now run at $11/month.

I'm good for $20 for server support -- I expect that to go for
a years worth after asking the rest of the people that care to 
contribute.


So now the question is Who else will pledge money?.

John
I have two servers at MSTransactions that seem to work pretty well.  For 
about $100 per year you get a dedicated server.  You have to maintain it 
yourself, no cpanel, but I installed Virtualmin on them and run multiple 
virtual http hosts.


Intel P3 667Mhz 256 MB  20 GB   500 Gb  10 Mbps 1 IPFREE
7.99/mo.
*Configure* https://www.hostmds.com/client/cart.php?a=addpid=206


The only catch is the 10 Mbps speed, which might not be enough.

Jim.


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Re: gEDA-user: if you people want to do it then put up the *cash*

2010-03-15 Thread Dave McGuire

On Mar 15, 2010, at 4:50 PM, Jim wrote:

problem with for-pay servers is users are motivated, they help
  pay for a few months, then no more
so any decisions that affect $$ need to account for probably
  Ales paying for it out of pocket

I have absolutely no issues with removing me as a single point  
of failure, however, if you people want to do it then put up the  
*cash*,
time, and get some buy-in from all people doing the development  
work.


When my friends on the metalartists.org list lost the previous server
and I started a mailman server for them they donated money via paypal
to get to paid up for a year and a half after just a week.  It might
not be hard, even with this bunch to get virtual server money.
For OpenVZ on Quantact.com servers you'd need to budget $30/month
for the level of RAM needed to run mailman.  These prices might even
drop some as things progress, since some web hosters, (Network  
Solns),
with canned web-app packages (not root accounts), now run at $11/ 
month.


I'm good for $20 for server support -- I expect that to go for
a years worth after asking the rest of the people that care to  
contribute.


So now the question is Who else will pledge money?.

John
I have two servers at MSTransactions that seem to work pretty  
well.  For about $100 per year you get a dedicated server.  You  
have to maintain it yourself, no cpanel, but I installed Virtualmin  
on them and run multiple virtual http hosts.


Intel P3 667Mhz 256 MB  20 GB   500 Gb  10 Mbps 1 IPFREE
7.99/mo.
*Configure* https://www.hostmds.com/client/cart.php?a=addpid=206


The only catch is the 10 Mbps speed, which might not be enough.


  This is for mailing list support and downloads?  Good heavens, if  
10Mbps isn't enough, then something is horribly, horribly wrong.


-Dave

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Port Charlotte, FL



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