Re: gEDA-user: if you people want to do it then put up the *cash*
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 6:34 AM, gene glick carzr...@optonline.net wrote: So now the question is Who else will pledge money?. Sure, happy to contribute. Stephen ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: if you people want to do it then put up the *cash*
So now the question is Who else will pledge money?. John You can count me in too. gene ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: if you people want to do it then put up the *cash*
Ales Hvezda wrote: problem with for-pay servers is users are motivated, they help pay for a few months, then no more so any decisions that affect $$ need to account for probably Ales paying for it out of pocket I have absolutely no issues with removing me as a single point of failure, however, if you people want to do it then put up the *cash*, time, and get some buy-in from all people doing the development work. When my friends on the metalartists.org list lost the previous server and I started a mailman server for them they donated money via paypal to get to paid up for a year and a half after just a week. It might not be hard, even with this bunch to get virtual server money. For OpenVZ on Quantact.com servers you'd need to budget $30/month for the level of RAM needed to run mailman. These prices might even drop some as things progress, since some web hosters, (Network Solns), with canned web-app packages (not root accounts), now run at $11/month. I'm good for $20 for server support -- I expect that to go for a years worth after asking the rest of the people that care to contribute. So now the question is Who else will pledge money?. John -- Ecosensory Austin TX ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: if you people want to do it then put up the *cash*
On Monday 15 March 2010, John Griessen wrote: Ales Hvezda wrote: problem with for-pay servers is users are motivated, they help pay for a few months, then no more so any decisions that affect $$ need to account for probably Ales paying for it out of pocket I have absolutely no issues with removing me as a single point of failure, however, if you people want to do it then put up the *cash*, time, and get some buy-in from all people doing the development work. When my friends on the metalartists.org list lost the previous server and I started a mailman server for them they donated money via paypal to get to paid up for a year and a half after just a week. It might not be hard, even with this bunch to get virtual server money. For OpenVZ on Quantact.com servers you'd need to budget $30/month for the level of RAM needed to run mailman. These prices might even drop some as things progress, since some web hosters, (Network Solns), with canned web-app packages (not root accounts), now run at $11/month. I'm good for $20 for server support -- I expect that to go for a years worth after asking the rest of the people that care to contribute. So now the question is Who else will pledge money?. John I am just a lurker generally, but I think Ales has done a good job those times when I grabbed the next 'generation' of this stuff, it seems to have a minimum of the PIMA content most such projects seem to have an abundance of, with SF being the most prominent in my limited experience as I have repo write access there on one of the legacy computer OS projects it loves to forget my pw on a random basis. If Ales all vote to setup the NP thing, even if it still runs on Ales's servers and a few bucks a month is needed to compensate Ales (or whoever might succeed should something happen, then I am sure my card could get $20/year lighter for as long as I'm around. Just set it up and post the donate site URL here. However, since I'm both 75 and diabetic, I have no warranty of being here tomorrow, but today I'm good. Basically, somebody needs to pay the energy bill in any event. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) I hate mankind, for I think myself one of the best of them, and I know how bad I am. -- Samuel Johnson ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: if you people want to do it then put up the *cash*
On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:50:18 -0500, John Griessen wrote: For OpenVZ on Quantact.com servers you'd need to budget $30/month for the level of RAM needed to run mailman. These prices might even drop some as things progress, since some web hosters, (Network Solns), with canned web-app packages (not root accounts), now run at $11/month. As I posted before, competitive pricing for no-root packages dropped significantly in recent years. My domains with scripting, 10 GB traffic/ month, 2 GB Webspace, mailman preinstalled cost me 1.49 EUR/month. That is about 2.00 USD/month at current exchange rate. Uptime is 99.5%, connectivity is better than my DSL connection at home can handle. ---(kaimartin)--- -- Kai-Martin Knaak tel: +49-511-762-2895 Universität Hannover, Inst. für Quantenoptik fax: +49-511-762-2211 Welfengarten 1, 30167 Hannover http://www.iqo.uni-hannover.de GPG key:http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=Knaak+kmkop=get ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: if you people want to do it then put up the *cash*
John Griessen wrote: Ales Hvezda wrote: problem with for-pay servers is users are motivated, they help pay for a few months, then no more so any decisions that affect $$ need to account for probably Ales paying for it out of pocket I have absolutely no issues with removing me as a single point of failure, however, if you people want to do it then put up the *cash*, time, and get some buy-in from all people doing the development work. When my friends on the metalartists.org list lost the previous server and I started a mailman server for them they donated money via paypal to get to paid up for a year and a half after just a week. It might not be hard, even with this bunch to get virtual server money. For OpenVZ on Quantact.com servers you'd need to budget $30/month for the level of RAM needed to run mailman. These prices might even drop some as things progress, since some web hosters, (Network Solns), with canned web-app packages (not root accounts), now run at $11/month. I'm good for $20 for server support -- I expect that to go for a years worth after asking the rest of the people that care to contribute. So now the question is Who else will pledge money?. John I have two servers at MSTransactions that seem to work pretty well. For about $100 per year you get a dedicated server. You have to maintain it yourself, no cpanel, but I installed Virtualmin on them and run multiple virtual http hosts. Intel P3 667Mhz 256 MB 20 GB 500 Gb 10 Mbps 1 IPFREE 7.99/mo. *Configure* https://www.hostmds.com/client/cart.php?a=addpid=206 The only catch is the 10 Mbps speed, which might not be enough. Jim. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: if you people want to do it then put up the *cash*
On Mar 15, 2010, at 4:50 PM, Jim wrote: problem with for-pay servers is users are motivated, they help pay for a few months, then no more so any decisions that affect $$ need to account for probably Ales paying for it out of pocket I have absolutely no issues with removing me as a single point of failure, however, if you people want to do it then put up the *cash*, time, and get some buy-in from all people doing the development work. When my friends on the metalartists.org list lost the previous server and I started a mailman server for them they donated money via paypal to get to paid up for a year and a half after just a week. It might not be hard, even with this bunch to get virtual server money. For OpenVZ on Quantact.com servers you'd need to budget $30/month for the level of RAM needed to run mailman. These prices might even drop some as things progress, since some web hosters, (Network Solns), with canned web-app packages (not root accounts), now run at $11/ month. I'm good for $20 for server support -- I expect that to go for a years worth after asking the rest of the people that care to contribute. So now the question is Who else will pledge money?. John I have two servers at MSTransactions that seem to work pretty well. For about $100 per year you get a dedicated server. You have to maintain it yourself, no cpanel, but I installed Virtualmin on them and run multiple virtual http hosts. Intel P3 667Mhz 256 MB 20 GB 500 Gb 10 Mbps 1 IPFREE 7.99/mo. *Configure* https://www.hostmds.com/client/cart.php?a=addpid=206 The only catch is the 10 Mbps speed, which might not be enough. This is for mailing list support and downloads? Good heavens, if 10Mbps isn't enough, then something is horribly, horribly wrong. -Dave -- Dave McGuire Port Charlotte, FL ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user