Re: gEDA-user: little slivers from pours

2010-02-23 Thread Jared Casper
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Ben Jackson b...@ben.com wrote:
 On Sat, Jan 09, 2010 at 05:41:05PM -0800, Ben Jackson wrote:

 I meant automatic solutions which would enforce the normal DRC rules on
 the slivers, eliminating any smaller than the minimum trace width.

 (replying to myself)

 Actually, I think I just figured out how to fix it AND do it live.

 I'll look into it.  If I don't post back to the list in a few days
 someone pester me.  ;-)


Did you ever get time figure this out?

Jared


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Re: gEDA-user: little slivers from pours

2010-01-11 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sun, 2010-01-10 at 18:04 -0800, Ben Jackson wrote:
 On Sat, Jan 09, 2010 at 05:41:05PM -0800, Ben Jackson wrote:
  
  I meant automatic solutions which would enforce the normal DRC rules on
  the slivers, eliminating any smaller than the minimum trace width.
 
 (replying to myself)
 
 Actually, I think I just figured out how to fix it AND do it live.
 
 I'll look into it.  If I don't post back to the list in a few days
 someone pester me.  ;-)

I'd be interested in the details when you have it figured out. I'd like
to make sure I'm fore-warned how its going to work, so I might prepare
the pours branch for it.

Btw. I suspect when you solve this problem for arbitrary polygons, it
will also be handy as a brute-force method of constructing polygons of
fat-arcs (which can currently self-intersect).



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Re: gEDA-user: little slivers from pours

2010-01-10 Thread Peter Clifton
On Sat, 2010-01-09 at 16:30 -0800, Ben Jackson wrote:
 On Sat, Jan 09, 2010 at 03:24:27PM -0800, David Griffith wrote:
  
  Is there some way I can easily get rid of the little slivers of copper 
  left between traces when doing pours?
 
 Not without adjusting the clearance on the adjacent lines to squeeze out
 the slivers.  I've considered several times how to fix this, and I can
 see options for doing in in a post-processing step, but that's not really
 in line with PCB's other polygon updates, which are all done live.

Works with my pours branch (which does island removal), but that isn't
ready for merge yet.

Best wishes,

Peter C.



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Re: gEDA-user: little slivers from pours

2010-01-10 Thread David Griffith
On Sat, 9 Jan 2010, Ben Jackson wrote:

 On Sat, Jan 09, 2010 at 05:14:31PM -0800, David Griffith wrote:
 On Sat, 9 Jan 2010, Ben Jackson wrote:
 On Sat, Jan 09, 2010 at 03:24:27PM -0800, David Griffith wrote:

 Is there some way I can easily get rid of the little slivers of copper
 left between traces when doing pours?

 Not without adjusting the clearance on the adjacent lines to squeeze out
 the slivers.  I've considered several times how to fix this, and I can
 see options for doing in in a post-processing step, but that's not really
 in line with PCB's other polygon updates, which are all done live.

 Then go over with some sort of erasing tool (which doesn't seem to exist
 yet) and erase the the slivers.  How are you considering this as a
 post-processing step?

 I meant automatic solutions which would enforce the normal DRC rules on
 the slivers, eliminating any smaller than the minimum trace width.  If
 you're willing to go manual anyway you could just hit the keybinding for
 'increase clearance by 1 mil' a few times on the objects causing the
 slivers.  Of course it helps to tune your parts -- if you have an smt
 footprint with just enough space between the pads to allow a sliver,
 tweak it!  Those are the ones likely to cause shorts, too.

Okay, so, how can I increase the clearance on all holes without doing each 
and every one individually?

-- 
David Griffith
dgri...@cs.csubak.edu

A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
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Re: gEDA-user: little slivers from pours

2010-01-10 Thread Ben Jackson
On Sat, Jan 09, 2010 at 05:41:05PM -0800, Ben Jackson wrote:
 
 I meant automatic solutions which would enforce the normal DRC rules on
 the slivers, eliminating any smaller than the minimum trace width.

(replying to myself)

Actually, I think I just figured out how to fix it AND do it live.

I'll look into it.  If I don't post back to the list in a few days
someone pester me.  ;-)

-- 
Ben Jackson AD7GD
b...@ben.com
http://www.ben.com/


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gEDA-user: little slivers from pours

2010-01-09 Thread David Griffith

Is there some way I can easily get rid of the little slivers of copper 
left between traces when doing pours?

-- 
David Griffith
dgri...@cs.csubak.edu

A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?


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Re: gEDA-user: little slivers from pours

2010-01-09 Thread Ben Jackson
On Sat, Jan 09, 2010 at 03:24:27PM -0800, David Griffith wrote:
 
 Is there some way I can easily get rid of the little slivers of copper 
 left between traces when doing pours?

Not without adjusting the clearance on the adjacent lines to squeeze out
the slivers.  I've considered several times how to fix this, and I can
see options for doing in in a post-processing step, but that's not really
in line with PCB's other polygon updates, which are all done live.

-- 
Ben Jackson AD7GD
b...@ben.com
http://www.ben.com/


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Re: gEDA-user: little slivers from pours

2010-01-09 Thread David Griffith
On Sat, 9 Jan 2010, Ben Jackson wrote:

 On Sat, Jan 09, 2010 at 03:24:27PM -0800, David Griffith wrote:

 Is there some way I can easily get rid of the little slivers of copper
 left between traces when doing pours?

 Not without adjusting the clearance on the adjacent lines to squeeze out
 the slivers.  I've considered several times how to fix this, and I can
 see options for doing in in a post-processing step, but that's not really
 in line with PCB's other polygon updates, which are all done live.

Consider something like this.  Allow one to display the pour, but not the 
traces or holes.  That would show blank areas where traces and holes are. 
Then go over with some sort of erasing tool (which doesn't seem to exist 
yet) and erase the the slivers.  How are you considering this as a 
post-processing step?

-- 
David Griffith
dgri...@cs.csubak.edu

A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?


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