Re: gEDA-user: multiple monitors
John Griessen wrote: That's a nice idea. I'd also like a feature where besides just panning, you could define views that stay around. They'd show as zones on the whole design view, and selecting them would open the pcb work view window on that area of interest. A way to do a UI for that might be to pan when you click outside one of the defined views, zoom to a defined view when you click inside it, and mov ethe defined view when you click and drag on it. My mechanical cad demo has a similiar feature: 5 buttons that will store views: - middle click on one of them stores your current view - left click makes the stored view active You have to remember what was where, but a thumbnail of the whole board with a red frame in it can be realized. I implemented this, because mechanical constructions sometimes have 2 small areas of interest with long parallel lines connecting them - but I find it generally handy. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: multiple monitors
On 10/04/2010 10:59 AM, Armin Faltl wrote: John Griessen wrote: That's a nice idea. I'd also like a feature where besides just panning, you could define views that stay around. They'd show as zones on the whole design view, My mechanical cad demo has a similiar feature: 5 buttons that will store views: - middle click on one of them stores your current view - left click makes the stored view active Sounds good, and pragmatically programmable Armin :-) What kind of CAD demo? John G ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: multiple monitors
On 10/01/2010 12:40 PM, Stefan Salewski wrote: I still have only one monitor, and I wonder how useful working with multiple monitors really is. Is turning the head really better than switching to another virtual screen? Yes, it's instant. You can also copy and paste from different apps and terminal windows. Several apps I use work better with more pixel space because they have several detached related windows or multiple panes -- gimp, image viewers with file tree to one side, gschem when working with hierarchic subcell schematics, pcb when using the tear off menus, CAD programs like HeeksCAD where you have properties windows related to selected objects of the 3D design, (sound familiar?). That kind of extra window doesn't always fit well on one screen, and having it there while able to glance-right to see what it defines or constrains is good. John using nvidia-compatible nouveau driver with xrandr with improved response times over previous setup with a ATI card. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: multiple monitors
On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 19:40:54 +0200, Stefan Salewski m...@ssalewski.de wrote: On Fri, 2010-10-01 at 10:52 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: Do you have an explanation for this? Yes. Four monitors with one desktop means there's a lot of overhead I still have only one monitor, and I wonder how useful working with multiple monitors really is. [snip] But I am not really sure if multiple monitors are a real benefit, because for Linux we have multiple virtual screens/work spaces. Is turning the head really better than switching to another virtual screen? I couldn't live without multiple monitors. For example, I use the following on a regular basis: - Electronics: One screen for gschem, one for pcb. - Electronics: One screen for gschem, one for datasheets. - gEDA hacking: One screen for emacs (4 windows: rgrep, stgit, source code, info browser), the other for web browser (gtk+ docs etc) and terminal/e-mail client. - Writing papers: One screen for emacs (editing TikZ diagrams) and LyX, one for PDF viewer and web browser. - Working with satellite imagery: One screen for displaying inputs/outputs, one for emacs/terminal. As John mentioned, the main advantage is that you can flick your eyes back and forth between lots of different windows at the same as typing into one. And with the imagery, being able to blow it up large reduces eye strain a lot -- before I got my second monitor at the lab, I'd regularly give myself headaches from squinting at small images for hours... On the other hand, there is such a thing as too much screen real estate. I don't think a third monitor would be worthwhile for my workstation setup, for example. Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: multiple monitors
On Fri, Oct 01, 2010 at 08:31:37PM +0100, Peter TB Brett wrote: I couldn't live without multiple monitors. I decided I could live with one monitor... It's an LG 30 LCD 2560x1600. At work I use 2x20 (total 3200x1200, just slightly fewer pixels). The one big display is much more flexible and requires less head turning. It did cost $1000, though, and 20 LCDs are given away in cereal boxes these days. -- Ben Jackson AD7GD b...@ben.com http://www.ben.com/ ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: multiple monitors
So, DJ, What do you put up on those four monitors? For electronics work, PCB on the main (center) monitor, PDFs or schematics on the rest. PCB's tear-off menus go on the side monitors. The main monitor is a 2560x1600 30 display. The two side monitors are Dell 2001FP monitors, rotated 90 degrees to be in portrait mode, which is excellent for PDFs and makes the pixels line up with the bigger monitor. It also gives me a primary workspace of 4960 x 1600 pixels. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: multiple monitors
So, DJ, What do you put up on those four monitors? Note that I *also* have four *virtual* desktops, so 16 monitors total. The four virtual desktops are: electronics, usenet, work, and other. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: multiple monitors
On 10/01/2010 04:56 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: May it be good to have multiple active working windows for PCB/gschem, I eventually would like to have a mode where a specified monitor is taken over as a PCB editing window (i.e. full-screen view), and the regular main window (which would be on some other monitor) becomes a giant panner tool. That's a nice idea. I'd also like a feature where besides just panning, you could define views that stay around. They'd show as zones on the whole design view, and selecting them would open the pcb work view window on that area of interest. A way to do a UI for that might be to pan when you click outside one of the defined views, zoom to a defined view when you click inside it, and mov ethe defined view when you click and drag on it. John ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
