Re: gEDA-user: pcb: experience with import-schematics

2010-08-16 Thread Armin Faltl



kai-martin knaak wrote:

Look at make_footprint_hash() in src/buffer.c

Maybe we need to read the menus in reverse order?


^
paths?
I'd say, the last path should receive highest priority. This is how the PATH 
environment variable of the shell is parsed. 
  

you mean the first directory has highest priority, same in linker paths


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Re: gEDA-user: pcb: experience with import-schematics

2010-08-16 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Armin Faltl wrote:

 you mean the first directory has highest priority, same in linker paths

Ouups, your are right. 

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Re: gEDA-user: pcb: experience with import-schematics

2010-08-16 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
DJ Delorie wrote:

 
 For PCB, you'd edit $HOME/.pcb/settings to say something like:
 
 lib-newlib = ../imported-
symbols/:../gedasymbols.org_salewski_symbols/:../custom-symbols/

For the GTK GUI this is overwritten by $HOME/.pcb/preferences
IMHO, the settings/preferences confusion needs to be sorted.


 lib-contents-command = /bin/true

What is this command supposed to do?

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Re: gEDA-user: pcb: experience with import-schematics

2010-08-16 Thread DJ Delorie

  lib-contents-command = /bin/true
 
 What is this command supposed to do?

The default is the command to provide the M4 library contents.
Without the contents list, there is no M4 library.


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Re: gEDA-user: pcb: experience with import-schematics

2010-08-15 Thread Stefan Salewski
On Sun, 2010-08-15 at 00:35 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote:
  More generally: What config files does import schematics look at?
 
 Importing uses pcb's internal paths, not gafrc.  Gnetlist simply
 passes the list of elements to pcb and lets pcb load them.
 
 You can point pcb's m4 library at a non-existing directory, I suppose.
 
 Look at make_footprint_hash() in src/buffer.c
 
 Maybe we need to read the menus in reverse order?  I'm not sure we
 ever had a rule about what the priorities were if two libraries had
 the same element, as from within pcb you always specified the library
 too.
 

I always have my own symbols and footprints, some with the same name as
files shipped with gEDA/PCB. And I think a few of John Luciani's
footprints have the same name as files shipped with PCB.

For me these configuration files solved this problem (for gsch2pcb),
giving John's files higher priority than PCB's own files, and my local
files even higher priority: 

ste...@amd64x2 ~ $ cat /mnt/data/stefan/gEDA/DAD/gafrc 
(debug-options (list 'stack 20))
(component-library ../imported-symbols/)
(component-library ../gedasymbols.org_salewski_symbols/)
(component-library ../custom-symbols/)
;(component-library local-symbols/)

ste...@amd64x2 ~ $ cat /mnt/data/stefan/gEDA/DAD/p1
schematics FPGA_Power.sch FPGA_B0B1.sch FPGA_B2B3.sch RAM.sch ADC.sch TDC.sch 
Digital_In_A.sch Digital_In_B.sch Digital_In_C.sch InputDividerCh1.sch 
InputDividerCh2.sch AmplifierCh1.sch AmplifierCh2.sch Controller.sch 
PowerManager.sch DC_DC_Converter.sch Lin_Regulators.sch Misc.sch AmpCommon.sch
output-name b1
skip-m4
elements-dir /usr/local/share/pcb-symbols-jcl_2008-4-25
elements-dir ../imported-footprints
elements-dir ../gedasymbols.org_salewski_footprints
elements-dir ../custom-footprints
#elements-dir local-footprints




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Re: gEDA-user: pcb: experience with import-schematics

2010-08-15 Thread DJ Delorie

For PCB, you'd edit $HOME/.pcb/settings to say something like:

lib-newlib = 
../imported-symbols/:../gedasymbols.org_salewski_symbols/:../custom-symbols/
lib-contents-command = /bin/true


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Re: gEDA-user: pcb: experience with import-schematics

2010-08-15 Thread kai-martin knaak
DJ Delorie wrote:

 More generally: What config files does import schematics look at?
 Importing uses pcb's internal paths, not gafrc.

This adds to the confusion. Both methods to transfer the the schematic 
information to pcb should come up with the same set of footprints with no 
subtleties in different config files involved. I see nasty errors creeping 
up, even for experienced users. 

From a user point of view I don't care which of the two applications is the 
master of the footprint path. But there definitely should be just one unique 
config for gnetlist and pcb import.

If the pcb internal path variable is the way to go, it should be possible to 
set it differently for different projects. Maybe as a global attribute 
attached to the pcb? If pcb is the master of the footprint paths gnetlist 
should read the pcb setting. That is, first read the library-path attribute 
from the target layout, then the setting in $HOME/pcb/preferences, then the 
project file and only then fall back to whatever the gafrc says.

BTW, it would be nice to if the similar issue of default settings of a newly 
created layout file would also be resolved. 


 You can point pcb's m4 library at a non-existing directory, I suppose.

Unfortunately, if the m4 library can't be disabled, or at least be 
considered as lowest priority, the import feature is no much use for me. 
I'd suggest a m4 enable switch in the library 


 Look at make_footprint_hash() in src/buffer.c
 
 Maybe we need to read the menus in reverse order?
^
paths?
I'd say, the last path should receive highest priority. This is how the PATH 
environment variable of the shell is parsed. 

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Re: gEDA-user: pcb: experience with import-schematics

2010-08-15 Thread DJ Delorie

  More generally: What config files does import schematics look at?
  Importing uses pcb's internal paths, not gafrc.
 
 This adds to the confusion.

No, this is the same confusion that's always existed, which is why we
wanted to get rid of gsch2pcb and *only* use pcb's list.  We've always
had the problem of gsch2pcb and pcb's library not having the same list
of parts, or not searching the same locations, etc.

 From a user point of view I don't care which of the two applications is the 
 master of the footprint path. But there definitely should be just one unique 
 config for gnetlist and pcb import.

It's not gnetlist, it's gsch2pcb.  gnetlist knows *nothing* of pcb's
libraries.  gsch2pcb knows way too much about pcb's internals.

 If the pcb internal path variable is the way to go, it should be possible to 
 set it differently for different projects.

It can go in a local pcb.settings file.  I don't think the *.pcb
should have it, because the location is machine-dependent, not
board-dependent.

  You can point pcb's m4 library at a non-existing directory, I suppose.
 
 Unfortunately, if the m4 library can't be disabled, or at least be 
 considered as lowest priority, the import feature is no much use for me. 
 I'd suggest a m4 enable switch in the library 

That's what pointing the library query program at /bin/true does.

  Maybe we need to read the menus in reverse order?
 ^
 paths?

No, read the code and it will make sense.  :-P

 I'd say, the last path should receive highest priority. This is how the PATH 
 environment variable of the shell is parsed. 

$PATH is the other way - first match wins, not last match.


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Re: gEDA-user: pcb: experience with import-schematics

2010-08-14 Thread DJ Delorie

Seems to work, I pushed it to master tree.  Thanks!


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Re: gEDA-user: pcb: experience with import-schematics

2010-08-14 Thread DJ Delorie

 More generally: What config files does import schematics look at?

Importing uses pcb's internal paths, not gafrc.  Gnetlist simply
passes the list of elements to pcb and lets pcb load them.

You can point pcb's m4 library at a non-existing directory, I suppose.

Look at make_footprint_hash() in src/buffer.c

Maybe we need to read the menus in reverse order?  I'm not sure we
ever had a rule about what the priorities were if two libraries had
the same element, as from within pcb you always specified the library
too.


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Re: gEDA-user: pcb: experience with import-schematics

2010-08-13 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
bump.

 More generally: What config files does import schematics look at?

The import feature needs a bit more documentation.
 
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Re: gEDA-user: pcb: experience with import-schematics

2010-08-13 Thread kai-martin knaak
Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:

 Yes please, with git format-patch if you can.
 
 Here you go. 

Did the patch apply?

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Re: gEDA-user: pcb: experience with import-schematics

2010-08-10 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
DJ Delorie wrote:

 Yes please, with git format-patch if you can.

Here you go. I tried to follow the recipe in 
http://www.geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:scm#format_a_patch_to_send_to_the_developers
Hope, I didn't mess it.

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From: kai-martin k...@bibo.iqo.uni-hannover.de
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:25:52 +0200
Subject: [PATCH] 	modified:   action.c (fix element name position on import schematic)

---
 src/action.c |4 ++--
 1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/src/action.c b/src/action.c
index 5f1c7a1..12745d1 100644
--- a/src/action.c
+++ b/src/action.c
@@ -7112,8 +7112,8 @@ ActionElementList (int argc, char **argv, int x, int y)
 
   for (i=0; iMAX_ELEMENTNAMES; i++)
 	{
-	  pe-Name[i].X = e-Name[i].X - mx;
-	  pe-Name[i].Y = e-Name[i].Y - my;
+	  pe-Name[i].X = e-Name[i].X - mx + pe-MarkX ;
+	  pe-Name[i].Y = e-Name[i].Y - my + pe-MarkY ;
 	  pe-Name[i].Direction = e-Name[i].Direction;
 	  pe-Name[i].Scale = e-Name[i].Scale;
 	}
-- 
1.7.1




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Re: gEDA-user: pcb: experience with import-schematics

2010-08-10 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
During my trial runs I noted, that the import prefers the default library 
for footprints that have the same file name. But most of the time I want my 
local footprints.

Is there a way to make import ignore the default library? With gsch2pcb I 
achieve this feat with (reset-source-library) in the gafrc file. If I 
specify import(gnetlist), the local gafrc does not seem to be read.
How about the M4 library? Does the import look at it, too? If so, how can I 
make it ignore the m4 lib?

More generally: What config files does import schematics look at?

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Re: gEDA-user: pcb: experience with import-schematics

2010-08-09 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
DJ Delorie wrote:

 Is this the latest git pcb?

looks-at-the-date
Not quite. It is git-head from june 15th.  
I'll update and and report my mileage.

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Re: gEDA-user: pcb: experience with import-schematics

2010-08-09 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:

 I'll update and and report my mileage.

Did an update and got no change. Text of replaced footprints is still offset 
about 15 cm to the upper left.
 
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Re: gEDA-user: pcb: experience with import-schematics

2010-08-09 Thread DJ Delorie

Well, you'll have to help with this then...

The code is in action.c near the end of ActionElementList() :

  er = ElementOrientation (e);
  pe =  PASTEBUFFER-Data-Element[0];
  pr = ElementOrientation (pe);

  mx = e-MarkX;
  my = e-MarkY;

  if (er != pr)
RotateElementLowLevel (PASTEBUFFER-Data, pe, pe-MarkX, pe-MarkY, 
(er-pr+4)%4);

  for (i=0; iMAX_ELEMENTNAMES; i++)
{
  pe-Name[i].X = e-Name[i].X - mx;
  pe-Name[i].Y = e-Name[i].Y - my;
  pe-Name[i].Direction = e-Name[i].Direction;
  pe-Name[i].Scale = e-Name[i].Scale;
}

There's a couple of coordinates in play - the stored location of the
new element, the mark relative to that, the text location relative to
the element, the old element location, and the old element's text
location.


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Re: gEDA-user: pcb: experience with import-schematics

2010-08-09 Thread Kai-Martin Knaak
DJ Delorie wrote:

 Well, you'll have to help with this then...
(...)
for (i=0; iMAX_ELEMENTNAMES; i++)
 {
 pe-Name[i].X = e-Name[i].X - mx;
 pe-Name[i].Y = e-Name[i].Y - my;
 pe-Name[i].Direction = e-Name[i].Direction;
 pe-Name[i].Scale = e-Name[i].Scale;
 }

Ok, found it.
The names need an additional shift by the coordinates of the mark of the new 
element. This translates the code snippet to:

  for (i=0; iMAX_ELEMENTNAMES; i++)
{
  pe-Name[i].X = e-Name[i].X - mx + pe-MarkX ;
  pe-Name[i].Y = e-Name[i].Y - my + pe-MarkY ;
  pe-Name[i].Direction = e-Name[i].Direction;
  pe-Name[i].Scale = e-Name[i].Scale;
}

The mark of footprints in the default lib are located at 0/0. So the bug 
does not show with them. By contrast, footprint made with the GUI typically 
have a large offset. (What determines its size?)

Should I produce a patch file?

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Re: gEDA-user: pcb: experience with import-schematics

2010-08-09 Thread DJ Delorie

 Should I produce a patch file?

Yes please, with git format-patch if you can.


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