Re: gEDA-user: possible collaborators on PCB, gschem [Kicad (or another FOSS tool)]
Larry Doolittle ldool...@recycle.lbl.gov writes: John - On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 01:07:51PM -0500, John Griessen wrote: Larry Doolittle is going to be there in person. What can we tell them to get them interested in gEDA more than KiCAD? Not push and shove, unless someone (not me) goes wild programming between now and October. I have an outline of some ideas I'd like to get across in the talk, and I know I need to review other people's talks on the subject first. Maybe someone (John?) would like to go over my material ahead of time? Not that I need to toe the party line or anything, but it would be nice to give a clear message, consistent with the larger community. There's lots of time. I haven't even boarded the plane yet! I can probably go in person, if that would help. It's a short hop for me. Peter -- Peter Brett pe...@peter-b.co.uk Remote Sensing Research Group Surrey Space Centre pgpKHaSeWObjJ.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
gEDA-user: possible collaborators on PCB, gschem [Kicad (or another FOSS tool)]
He says, We do quite complex PCB design, and for us it's important to have high-performance quality tools. One option is to try to get some community effort behind Kicad (or another FOSS tool) and bring it on par with some of the non-open tools Also said, Does the router feature push shove? This is a big must for us. I would also need an expert's assessment on whether pcb would be a good, modular, clean base to improve on. What I hear informally is that it wouldn't So there you have our image problem even though pcb has a plugin API. Larry Doolittle is going to be there in person. What can we tell them to get them interested in gEDA more than KiCAD? They are interested in and collaborating with Icarus verilog's Steve W. probably for FPGAs and may not care about chips. John -- Forwarded message -- From: *Javier Serrano* javier.serr...@cern.ch mailto:javier.serr...@cern.ch Date: Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:04 AM Subject: [OH Updates] Looking for a Kicad expert To: upda...@lists.openhardwaresummit.org mailto:upda...@lists.openhardwaresummit.org Hi all, I am looking for a Kicad expert who would like to come to Grenoble (France) in October to present Kicad and discuss about future trends in FOSS EDA during the ICALEPCS Open Hardware Workshop (http://www.ohwr.org/projects/ohr-meta/wiki/OHWorkshop). Let me give some bits of context: - The ICALEPCS OH workshop is mainly attended by people who also attend the ICALEPCS conference, i.e. people interested in the development of control and data acquisition hardware and software for big Physics labs. I started organizing the workshop before knowing about the summit, but I still think it makes sense because many of the attendees could not have attended the summit anyway. I think that community is very complementary to this one, and by having some CERN people attend the summit we hope we can stay coherent. - The next big thing for us in OH is the tools. We are actively collaborating with Steve Williams co. in bringing VHDL and SystemVerilog support to Icarus Verilog, and we think Icarus can reach a degree of quality and performance in mixed-language simulation where we should be able to use it exclusively [1]. Then we will be able to use Verilog cores from our US friends :) and they will be able to use our VHDL cores without the need of a non-open simulator. - I am not an expert on PCB design tools, but people tell me FOSS tools are still some way behind their non-open counterparts. We do quite complex PCB design, and for us it's important to have high-performance quality tools. One option is to try to get some community effort behind Kicad (or another FOSS tool) and bring it on par with some of the non-open tools, but I do not know a) how hard that would be and b) what the Kicad people would think of that. So I am looking for a speaker/debater who would like to participate in the OH workshop in October and bridge that gap. If you or someone you know would like to do it, please contact me privately. Thanks! Javier [1] Notice I don't represent the whole of CERN in this, just a corridor of hackers with an attitude. ___ updates mailing list upda...@lists.openhardwaresummit.org mailto:upda...@lists.openhardwaresummit.org http://lists.openhardwaresummit.org/listinfo.cgi/updates-openhardwaresummit.org -- Ecosensory 1218 W 39th St. Austin TX 78756 ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: possible collaborators on PCB, gschem [Kicad (or another FOSS tool)]
John - On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 01:07:51PM -0500, John Griessen wrote: Larry Doolittle is going to be there in person. What can we tell them to get them interested in gEDA more than KiCAD? Not push and shove, unless someone (not me) goes wild programming between now and October. I have an outline of some ideas I'd like to get across in the talk, and I know I need to review other people's talks on the subject first. Maybe someone (John?) would like to go over my material ahead of time? Not that I need to toe the party line or anything, but it would be nice to give a clear message, consistent with the larger community. There's lots of time. I haven't even boarded the plane yet! - Larry ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: possible collaborators on PCB, gschem [Kicad (or another FOSS tool)]
On 07/26/2011 01:14 PM, Larry Doolittle wrote: Maybe someone (John?) would like to go over my material ahead of time? Yes, I'll read and understand it and then we could talk on the phone... John ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
Re: gEDA-user: possible collaborators on PCB, gschem [Kicad (or another FOSS tool)]
[1] Notice I don't represent the whole of CERN in this, just a corridor of hackers with an attitude. Make a PCB HID that is a plug-in to ROOT, problem solved. :-) http://root.cern.ch/drupal/ I've actually thought doing of that a couple of times. Javier, would that actual be of any value? [Your FOSS tools message made the PCB mailing list in short order.] For those that have never heard of ROOT: ROOT's well documented, Open Source (their own license) and part of the CERN data collection infrastructure. C++ code where everything descends from a common object TObj etc... http://root.cern.ch/drupal/content/users-guide Graphics and Graphical User Interface Graphical containers: canvas and pad, graphical objects, axis, legends, postscript interface, 3D viewers http://root.cern.ch/download/doc/9Graphics.pdf Writing a Graphical User Interface http://root.cern.ch/download/doc/25WritingGUI.pdf If you're not into PCB they also cover various simulators, and how to save Petabytes of data with error recovery. You might only be able to find that elusive Higg's Particle once, how do you deal with a full disk array when it happens kind of thing; via robust file structures. Worth everyone looking at the project regardless of your interests, you'll find something of interest to you. ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user
