Re: [Gendergap] Mind the Gap Barnstar/Award - I need your help!
Hi Anna - Cool drawing! In my original email I was actually seeking something inspired by the Mind the Gap theme from the London underground. It is a cool drawing - but I do think having something more gender neutral will be ideal for this award (you can learn more about barnstars here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Barnstars ). While she has quite the personality (it appears an angry one, and many of us can relate to that!) the vagina vision (ha!) might make it a little odd to give to men and for men to give to others. Thank you for your effort! -Sarah Stierch On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 4:10 AM, anna jonsson annaba...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I'm an artist,and recently found out about this gendergap list amazing work you have done! so I send a proposal for the logo... Anna -- Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 21:17:38 -0400 From: sarah.stie...@gmail.com To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Gendergap] Mind the Gap Barnstar/Award - I need your help! Hi everyone, I recently mentioned the idea of the Mind the Gap barnstar/award. The term mind the gap is in reference to the warning set forth by the London underground to warn people to make sure they pay attention the space between the train door and the station platform (learn more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind_the_gap). *Are you a designer? Or do you know a designer* who would be happy to volunteer their time to creating an award for Wikimedians who work hard to close the gap within Wikimedia through outreach, welcoming, standing up for others, writing about and maintaining women's articles or related images, and forth? Here is the original Mind the Gap logo...which I believe is under copyright?:http://www.earthpm.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/mind_the_gap.png Here is a cool feminist spin on it: http://londonstudentfeminists.blogspot.com/ Another fun piece of inspiration - the German women's movement logo of the 1970: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Womanpower_logo.svg I tried to develop something myself, but, my own skills are rather pathetic in regards to design. I will award you with a barnstar of your own and a beer if I ever meet you (or a beverage of your choice) - or the designer you recruit!! And of course fanatically praise the awesome-ness you or the designer are through Twitter, Wikipedia, mailing lists and beyond.. 3 THANK YOU for your consideration! -Sarah Stierch -- GLAMWIKI Partnership Ambassador for Wikimedia http://www.glamwiki.org/ Wikipedian-in-Residence, Archives of American Arthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User%3aSarahStierch and Sarah Stierch Consulting *Historical, cultural artistic research advising.* -- http://www.sarahstierch.com/ ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap -- GLAMWIKI Partnership Ambassador for Wikimedia http://www.glamwiki.org Wikipedian-in-Residence, Archives of American Arthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SarahStierch and Sarah Stierch Consulting *Historical, cultural artistic research advising.* -- http://www.sarahstierch.com/ ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Gender neutrality template
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Daniel and Elizabeth Case
danc...@frontiernet.net wrote:
I love the idea of having articles of gender concern in a one stop shopping
space. Going through the NPOV collection is long, painful and is filled with
lots of advertising articles for tech companies. Blarg
-Sarah
I agree with a gender-specific tag as well. NPOV is (by design) vague
and, to me, not quite the fit we need as it is best applied to allegedly
non-neutral use of language (in obvious cases of POV language, I just fix it
... there's no need to discuss). We ourselves already have {{globalize}}
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Globalize
for the situation of articles reflecting only the experience of one
particular region of the world or country. I don't see why gender bias
couldn't be addressed the same way.
I was going suggest the Globalize template as well; it's a good model
of encouraging broader diversity (The examples and perspective in this
article may not represent a worldwide view of the subject) without the
boilerplate harsher tone of the stand NPOV template.
Thanks,
Richard
(User:Pharos)
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Re: [Gendergap] Gender neutrality template
Just a reminder, we have a conversation started here about it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Feminism#Gender_neutrality_template
I also brought up the use of some templates used for gender studies. If we
can start contributing to the wiki about this, that'd be wonderful!
Thanks everyone for your input and Jayen466 for taking the initiative,
-Sarah
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Pharos pharosofalexand...@gmail.comwrote:
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Daniel and Elizabeth Case
danc...@frontiernet.net wrote:
I love the idea of having articles of gender concern in a one stop
shopping
space. Going through the NPOV collection is long, painful and is filled
with
lots of advertising articles for tech companies. Blarg
-Sarah
I agree with a gender-specific tag as well. NPOV is (by design) vague
and, to me, not quite the fit we need as it is best applied to allegedly
non-neutral use of language (in obvious cases of POV language, I just fix
it
... there's no need to discuss). We ourselves already have {{globalize}}
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Globalize
for the situation of articles reflecting only the experience of one
particular region of the world or country. I don't see why gender bias
couldn't be addressed the same way.
I was going suggest the Globalize template as well; it's a good model
of encouraging broader diversity (The examples and perspective in this
article may not represent a worldwide view of the subject) without the
boilerplate harsher tone of the stand NPOV template.
Thanks,
Richard
(User:Pharos)
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[Gendergap] More Dangerous to be a Woman Than a Soldier
Intense (and brief) piece from Forbes about women as victims in war in Africa: http://www.forbes.com/sites/shenegotiates/2011/10/04/more-dangerous-to-be-a-woman-than-a-soldier/ You'll also notice that Forbe's cites Wikipedia's article about micro-lending! -- GLAMWIKI Partnership Ambassador for Wikimedia http://www.glamwiki.org Wikipedian-in-Residence, Archives of American Arthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SarahStierch and Sarah Stierch Consulting *Historical, cultural artistic research advising.* -- http://www.sarahstierch.com/ ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] More Dangerous to be a Woman Than a Soldier
This is something that's been on my mental list of articles to write. Someday... Rape in the U.S. Military Just searched rape U.S. military in wikipedia and just a mention of Okinawa, not the horrific statistics. Crime and U.S. military (safer article to start with to avoid AfD) showed nothing as well. Put a note on feminist wikiproject (i'm flustered dealing with crashing computer, new one in mail, and occupying DC, or a day or two anyway, just long enough to convince them -- well, let's not talk politics... but I do have some sexist pig peace activists I'll probably be running into... one of whom has a vanity article on wikipedia... don't get me started... Carol in dc On 10/4/2011 12:28 PM, Sarah Stierch wrote: Intense (and brief) piece from Forbes about women as victims in war in Africa: http://www.forbes.com/sites/shenegotiates/2011/10/04/more-dangerous-to-be-a-woman-than-a-soldier/ You'll also notice that Forbe's cites Wikipedia's article about micro-lending! - ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] More Dangerous to be a Woman Than a Soldier
*This is something that's been on my mental list of articles to write someday... Rape in the U.S. Military * Can you find sources for this article Carol? We all know that exist, but I don't see many people talking about it. _ *Béria Lima* Wikimedia Portugal http://wikimedia.pt (351) 963 953 042 *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer.* On 4 October 2011 17:45, carolmoor...@verizon.net wrote: This is something that's been on my mental list of articles to write. Someday... Rape in the U.S. Military Just searched rape U.S. military in wikipedia and just a mention of Okinawa, not the horrific statistics. Crime and U.S. military (safer article to start with to avoid AfD) showed nothing as well. Put a note on feminist wikiproject (i'm flustered dealing with crashing computer, new one in mail, and occupying DC, or a day or two anyway, just long enough to convince them -- well, let's not talk politics... but I do have some sexist pig peace activists I'll probably be running into... one of whom has a vanity article on wikipedia... don't get me started... Carol in dc On 10/4/2011 12:28 PM, Sarah Stierch wrote: Intense (and brief) piece from Forbes about women as victims in war in Africa: http://www.forbes.com/sites/shenegotiates/2011/10/04/more-dangerous-to-be-a-woman-than-a-soldier/ You'll also notice that Forbe's cites Wikipedia's article about micro-lending! - ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] More Dangerous to be a Woman Than a Soldier
On the whole I think our military history articles aren't great at dealing with sexual violence, on a number of dimensions. For instance, there was a large amount of well-documented rape and sexual mutiliation of Vietnamese women by U.S. forces in Vietnam, but the Vietnam War article doesn't cover this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War#Women_in_Vietnam You will be relieved to know that is has more paragraphs devoted to the American nurses who served in Vietnam than to anything about Vietnamese women. Apparently this is because, on the American side at least, many men reported that having women in the field with them boosted their morale. Although this was not the women’s purpose, it was one positive result of the their service. I'm sure you'll agree that a bit of morale-boosting is far more worthy of comment than other services provided by nurses, e.g. medical care. Sexual violence by Americans in Vietnam is also missing from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_rape - though of course that article does adequately cover http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comfort_women - evidently rape is better-covered when it is Asians doing the raping rather than being raped. One wonders why. ;-) ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] More Dangerous to be a Woman Than a Soldier
Hey everyone, I'm gathering a large collection of resources for this subject - specifically United States Military and rape - from the incident in Okinawa to Civil War period rape, to sexual assault and attack within the US military against women and men. If you wish to have access to the Dropbox I'm organizing, shoot me a message off list. -Sarah On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.comwrote: On the whole I think our military history articles aren't great at dealing with sexual violence, on a number of dimensions. For instance, there was a large amount of well-documented rape and sexual mutiliation of Vietnamese women by U.S. forces in Vietnam, but the Vietnam War article doesn't cover this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War#Women_in_Vietnam You will be relieved to know that is has more paragraphs devoted to the American nurses who served in Vietnam than to anything about Vietnamese women. Apparently this is because, on the American side at least, many men reported that having women in the field with them boosted their morale. Although this was not the women’s purpose, it was one positive result of the their service. I'm sure you'll agree that a bit of morale-boosting is far more worthy of comment than other services provided by nurses, e.g. medical care. Sexual violence by Americans in Vietnam is also missing from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_rape - though of course that article does adequately cover http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comfort_women - evidently rape is better-covered when it is Asians doing the raping rather than being raped. One wonders why. ;-) ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap -- GLAMWIKI Partnership Ambassador for Wikimedia http://www.glamwiki.org Wikipedian-in-Residence, Archives of American Arthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SarahStierch and Sarah Stierch Consulting *Historical, cultural artistic research advising.* -- http://www.sarahstierch.com/ ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Mind the Gap Barnstar/Award - I need your help!
yes, I can see your point,no problem I just wanted to try to contribute with something Anna Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 11:39:19 -0400 From: sarah.stie...@gmail.com To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Mind the Gap Barnstar/Award - I need your help! Hi Anna - Cool drawing! In my original email I was actually seeking something inspired by the Mind the Gap theme from the London underground. It is a cool drawing - but I do think having something more gender neutral will be ideal for this award (you can learn more about barnstars here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Barnstars ). While she has quite the personality (it appears an angry one, and many of us can relate to that!) the vagina vision (ha!) might make it a little odd to give to men and for men to give to others. Thank you for your effort! -Sarah Stierch On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 4:10 AM, anna jonsson annaba...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I'm an artist,and recently found out about this gendergap list amazing work you have done! so I send a proposal for the logo... Anna Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 21:17:38 -0400 From: sarah.stie...@gmail.com To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Gendergap] Mind the Gap Barnstar/Award - I need your help! Hi everyone, I recently mentioned the idea of the Mind the Gap barnstar/award. The term mind the gap is in reference to the warning set forth by the London underground to warn people to make sure they pay attention the space between the train door and the station platform (learn more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind_the_gap). Are you a designer? Or do you know a designer who would be happy to volunteer their time to creating an award for Wikimedians who work hard to close the gap within Wikimedia through outreach, welcoming, standing up for others, writing about and maintaining women's articles or related images, and forth? Here is the original Mind the Gap logo...which I believe is under copyright?: http://www.earthpm.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/mind_the_gap.png Here is a cool feminist spin on it: http://londonstudentfeminists.blogspot.com/ Another fun piece of inspiration - the German women's movement logo of the 1970: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Womanpower_logo.svg I tried to develop something myself, but, my own skills are rather pathetic in regards to design. I will award you with a barnstar of your own and a beer if I ever meet you (or a beverage of your choice) - or the designer you recruit!! And of course fanatically praise the awesome-ness you or the designer are through Twitter, Wikipedia, mailing lists and beyond.. 3 THANK YOU for your consideration! -Sarah Stierch -- GLAMWIKI Partnership Ambassador for Wikimedia Wikipedian-in-Residence, Archives of American Art and Sarah Stierch Consulting Historical, cultural artistic research advising. -- http://www.sarahstierch.com/ ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap -- GLAMWIKI Partnership Ambassador for Wikimedia Wikipedian-in-Residence, Archives of American Art and Sarah Stierch Consulting Historical, cultural artistic research advising. -- http://www.sarahstierch.com/ ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
