Re: [Gendergap] wiki-post-it increases female participation, and replaces image filter?

2011-11-28 Thread rupert THURNER 
as I understood drjunges remarks, post-it notes bring a personal,
non-public component, which lowers the edit barrier. depending on the
implementation, they are able to extend, replace or provide e.g.: page
watch, classical note glued onto or over text or images, categories, tags,
bookmarks, share the post-its to me, groups or public, editing templates (a
la "this article needs help"), quality categorisation to select contents
for offline.

in a summary, while I always thought wikipedia is not facebook, such notes
offer a wealth of new applications, which we are not even able to enumerate
currently.

rupert
 On Nov 27, 2011 11:43 PM, "Sarah Stierch"  wrote:

> I don't think women are "scared" or disinterested to participate because
> of images on Wikipedia.  People are uncomfortable about certain images
> regardless of gender, just like people having a hard time with wiki-mark up
> is genderless. But, that's just speaking for my experiences, research and
> role in English Wikipedia.
>
> I don't really think post-it note type tools would benefit Wikipedia any
> more or less than the image filter would, and that idea has basically been
> shot down. It also sounds like the user of the post-it note would have to
> view the image to place the post-it on top of the image, so I'm not too
> sure what the benefit would be.
>
> -Sarah
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote:
>
>> * rupert THURNER wrote:
>> >to increase female participation, drjunge suggests to implement
>> "post-it"s.
>> >they can be placed on any position into wikipedia pages, and are only
>> >personally viewable in a first step. later the visibility might be
>> extended
>> >just like with other social networks. one funny side-usage of these
>> >post-its is that they of course can be placed onto images one does not
>> like.
>> >
>> >as i am not female and not non-participating, i'd wonder what you think
>> >about such an idea?
>>
>> If you want to close the "gendergap" then you have to think about how to
>> turn 10% female participation into 90% female participation.
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Re: [Gendergap] wiki-post-it increases female participation, and replaces image filter?

2011-11-28 Thread Sarah Stierch 
All I can suggest is - he can create a proposal and support and test it :)

Perhaps it will work some magic that we can all benefit from!

Sarah 

Sent via iPhone - I apologize in advance for my shortness or errors! :)


On Nov 28, 2011, at 3:04 AM, rupert THURNER  wrote:

> as I understood drjunges remarks, post-it notes bring a personal, non-public 
> component, which lowers the edit barrier. depending on the implementation, 
> they are able to extend, replace or provide e.g.: page watch, classical note 
> glued onto or over text or images, categories, tags, bookmarks, share the 
> post-its to me, groups or public, editing templates (a la "this article needs 
> help"), quality categorisation to select contents for offline.
> 
> in a summary, while I always thought wikipedia is not facebook, such notes 
> offer a wealth of new applications, which we are not even able to enumerate 
> currently.
> 
> rupert
> On Nov 27, 2011 11:43 PM, "Sarah Stierch"  wrote:
> I don't think women are "scared" or disinterested to participate because of 
> images on Wikipedia.  People are uncomfortable about certain images 
> regardless of gender, just like people having a hard time with wiki-mark up 
> is genderless. But, that's just speaking for my experiences, research and 
> role in English Wikipedia. 
> 
> I don't really think post-it note type tools would benefit Wikipedia any more 
> or less than the image filter would, and that idea has basically been shot 
> down. It also sounds like the user of the post-it note would have to view the 
> image to place the post-it on top of the image, so I'm not too sure what the 
> benefit would be.
> 
> -Sarah
> 
> 
> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Bjoern Hoehrmann  wrote:
> * rupert THURNER wrote:
> >to increase female participation, drjunge suggests to implement "post-it"s.
> >they can be placed on any position into wikipedia pages, and are only
> >personally viewable in a first step. later the visibility might be extended
> >just like with other social networks. one funny side-usage of these
> >post-its is that they of course can be placed onto images one does not like.
> >
> >as i am not female and not non-participating, i'd wonder what you think
> >about such an idea?
> 
> If you want to close the "gendergap" then you have to think about how to
> turn 10% female participation into 90% female participation.
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> Am Badedeich 7 · Telefon: +49(0)160/4415681 · http://www.bjoernsworld.de
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[Gendergap] The Online Gender Gap: Why Don't More Women Participate in Online Forums?

2011-11-28 Thread Sarah Stierch 
Featuring a photo of our Sue Gardner :)


http://www.policymic.com/article/show/id/2600#signup-call

And as a selfish plug you can follow related content like this on my
scoop.it, which documents gender gap in the media related to Wikimedia,
open source, and related areas here:
http://www.scoop.it/t/women-and-wikimedia

Occupy Wikipedia!

-Sarah

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