[Gendergap] World Naked Gardening Day

2012-04-05 Thread Gillian White
Sorry to say...
Right now, on the English Wikipedia main page did you know section, is
World Naked Gardening Day:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Naked_Gardening_Day
You will note on the talkpage of the article there's been a vigorous debate
about the choice of image used
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:World_Naked_Gardening_Day This morning
(my time) the image was not there, with [[user:alan liefting]] working hard
to argue against the photo that has now been placed at the top. I am
dismayed on behalf of women and of gardeners too! I have come across
[[User:Supernova Explosion]] before - he seems to use titillating captions
and images to increase the hits to otherwise legitimate 'did you know'
nominations and is now the user who has been arguing that this photo has
consensus to be included while they wait for a better one to be found.

Groan!

I don't want to get involved in an edit-war about this case, but can
anything be done about this case specifically? Is it the right approach to
remove the image and to ask that the discussion about its appropriateness
be delayed until at least after the DYK link is gone??

Whiteghost.ink
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Re: [Gendergap] World Naked Gardening Day

2012-04-05 Thread Thomas Morton
I removed it with this explanation:

I've removed the image; I suggest not restoring it (as controversial)
 unless it is decided by consensus to be the permanent lead image. There is
 no need to have a sub-standard image in the mean time if a better one can
 be found (which I think is the case). The photo is a posed shot -
 apparently promotional(?) - which focuses on the nudity with only a token
 gesture to gardening. It is gratuitous, in that form, and not a good
 illustration of the subject.


I don't particularly object to the image myself; but it's not a good
illustration of the topic.

Tom

On 5 April 2012 11:36, Ole Palnatoke Andersen palnat...@gmail.com wrote:

 Someone might know (or know of) Mark Storey who is gardening on
 http://naked.wikia.com/wiki/World_Naked_Gardening_Day - or perhaps
 http://naked.wikia.com/wiki/User:Dlj  (aka
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dandelion1 ) who uploaded the image?


 Regards,
 Ole

 On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Gillian White 
 whiteghost@gmail.comwrote:

 Sorry to say...
 Right now, on the English Wikipedia main page did you know section, is
 World Naked Gardening Day:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Naked_Gardening_Day
 You will note on the talkpage of the article there's been a vigorous
 debate about the choice of image used
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:World_Naked_Gardening_Day This morning
 (my time) the image was not there, with [[user:alan liefting]] working hard
 to argue against the photo that has now been placed at the top. I am
 dismayed on behalf of women and of gardeners too! I have come across
 [[User:Supernova Explosion]] before - he seems to use titillating captions
 and images to increase the hits to otherwise legitimate 'did you know'
 nominations and is now the user who has been arguing that this photo has
 consensus to be included while they wait for a better one to be found.

 Groan!

 I don't want to get involved in an edit-war about this case, but can
 anything be done about this case specifically? Is it the right approach to
 remove the image and to ask that the discussion about its appropriateness
 be delayed until at least after the DYK link is gone??

 Whiteghost.ink

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Re: [Gendergap] World Naked Gardening Day

2012-04-05 Thread Andreas Kolbe
If you don't particularly object to that image

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=World_Naked_Gardening_Dayoldid=485677881

then I would suggest you have very poor taste and very little sense of what
an encyclopedia, even an online encyclopedia, should look like.

Andreas

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Thomas Morton morton.tho...@googlemail.com
 wrote:

 I removed it with this explanation:

 I've removed the image; I suggest not restoring it (as controversial)
 unless it is decided by consensus to be the permanent lead image. There is
 no need to have a sub-standard image in the mean time if a better one can
 be found (which I think is the case). The photo is a posed shot -
 apparently promotional(?) - which focuses on the nudity with only a token
 gesture to gardening. It is gratuitous, in that form, and not a good
 illustration of the subject.


 I don't particularly object to the image myself; but it's not a good
 illustration of the topic.

 Tom

 On 5 April 2012 11:36, Ole Palnatoke Andersen palnat...@gmail.com wrote:

 Someone might know (or know of) Mark Storey who is gardening on
 http://naked.wikia.com/wiki/World_Naked_Gardening_Day - or perhaps
 http://naked.wikia.com/wiki/User:Dlj  (aka
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dandelion1 ) who uploaded the image?


 Regards,
 Ole

  On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Gillian White whiteghost@gmail.com
  wrote:

  Sorry to say...
 Right now, on the English Wikipedia main page did you know section, is
 World Naked Gardening Day:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Naked_Gardening_Day
 You will note on the talkpage of the article there's been a vigorous
 debate about the choice of image used
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:World_Naked_Gardening_Day This
 morning (my time) the image was not there, with [[user:alan liefting]]
 working hard to argue against the photo that has now been placed at the
 top. I am dismayed on behalf of women and of gardeners too! I have come
 across [[User:Supernova Explosion]] before - he seems to use titillating
 captions and images to increase the hits to otherwise legitimate 'did you
 know' nominations and is now the user who has been arguing that this photo
 has consensus to be included while they wait for a better one to be found.

 Groan!

 I don't want to get involved in an edit-war about this case, but can
 anything be done about this case specifically? Is it the right approach to
 remove the image and to ask that the discussion about its appropriateness
 be delayed until at least after the DYK link is gone??

 Whiteghost.ink

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Re: [Gendergap] BuzzFeed articles

2012-04-05 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Sequel to Jack Stuef's piece:

*It's Almost Impossible To Get Kiddie Porn Off Wikipedia*
*Wikipedia's self-policing isn't working.*

http://www.buzzfeed.com/jackstuef/its-almost-impossible-to-get-kiddie-porn-off-wiki
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Re: [Gendergap] WikiWomen's History Month outcomes

2012-04-05 Thread Pete Forsyth
Women's History Month lives on!!

On April 21, Selena Deckelmann and I will be hosting an edit-a-thon in 
Portland, Oregon, based largely on our experiences at the one in San Francisco. 
We're making women and technology one of two suggested topic areas (the other 
being Portland/Oregon history).

The meetup page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Portland

-Pete


On Apr 4, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Sarah Stierch wrote:

 Hi everyone,
 
 I am in the process of developing a wrap-up about WikiWomen's History Month! 
 If you created, improved on, uploaded, etc. any content in honor of women's 
 history month it'd be fabulous if you could add your outcomes to this page:
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiWomen%27s_History_Month/Outcomes
 
 Thanks! Any off-list feedback about events you attended or your feelings 
 about the event are welcome as well. 
 
 -Sarah
 
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